Johnnyrotten Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 11 minutes ago, Rudy said: He couldn’t get in the side in L2 ffs True, but neither could Gordon or Brockbank and they are now the back ups for John and Jones. Miller was back up for Doyle and for the next couple of months we arguably don't have one. We need better than Miller for league one, I agree. Just not sure who that is. It'll be sorted, its just idle chat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 1, 2021 Members Share Posted September 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: True, but neither could Gordon or Brockbank and they are now the back ups for John and Jones. Miller was back up for Doyle and for the next couple of months we arguably don't have one. We need better than Miller for league one, I agree. Just not sure who that is. It'll be sorted, its just idle chat. He looked like he could score a goal no doubt but his workrate off the ball and closing down is what makes me think why IE didn’t keep him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Biggish Dave said: Amaechi, Aimson & Bakoyoko will all be back with us before too long, Kachunga should hopefully be somewhere approaching match fit in the same time frame. We are far from thin on the ground options wise with a full squad Hope they are back and firing in time for October 16 when we play those silly cunts from Wigan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 5 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: We could do worse than getting Shaun Miller back on a short term contract as cover in case Doyle is injured (or another relatively fit and available out of contract striker, I'm sure IE will have a list). Decent guy but if we were SO desperate we could recall Politic who's not yet got 1 minute on for Port Vale. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted September 1, 2021 Moderators Share Posted September 1, 2021 Why would he get a go for us if PV dont think hes ready, either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfc2003 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Why would he get a go for us if PV dont think hes ready, either Also do we know he can be re-called?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Feelgood Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, Casino said: Why would he get a go for us if PV dont think hes ready, either What I said was .... "IF .... we were SO desperate (as to consider borrowing Miller from Natwich Town) then recalling Politic would be a better option". I'm not sure that's a controversial position to take. 29 minutes ago, bwfc2003 said: Also do we know he can be re-called?? Obviously I don't know but it can usually be done. It's not like Vale have built their season around him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 1, 2021 Members Share Posted September 1, 2021 Politic isn’t ready but he’s rated by IE, hence the loan but a contract offand the lack of minutes at PV Big injury to return from, his fitness and strength will be nowhere near L1 level but he’s training with a L2 side to get his fitness up and minutes under his belt, can’t rush him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 hours ago, paulhanley said: Hope they are back and firing in time for October 16 when we play those silly cunts from Wigan. We’re going to need them back for sure even then they have stronger squad than we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Politic isn’t ready but he’s rated by IE, hence the loan but a contract offand the lack of minutes at PV Big injury to return from, his fitness and strength will be nowhere near L1 level but he’s training with a L2 side to get his fitness up and minutes under his belt, can’t rush him aye I said this weeks back Maybe the plan was for him to be ready from the start but it’s just taking a little longer, hopefully he’s back upto speed for the 22/23 season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Apologies if mentioned elsewhere, just noticed Kioso has gone to MK Dons on loan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 11 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Squad looks fine for mid table when everyone's fit, but they aren't. I'm a bit concerned about the next 10 or so league games, I know Delf scored last night but his performance only increased thoughts that he's struggling, couldn't get into the game at all. Kachunga clearly not making an impact yet and anyway is more of a wide player than striker. We could do worse than getting Shaun Miller back on a short term contract as cover in case Doyle is injured (or another relatively fit and available out of contract striker, I'm sure IE will have a list). Squad looks mid table. How have you come to that conclusion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted September 1, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 1, 2021 We need to be realistic. We’ve not got a massive war chest but do have a few younger lads who seem like they might make it. Farm them out on loan, they either come back ready or we move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, tomski said: Squad looks mid table. How have you come to that conclusion? It wasn't meant to be a controversial comment. Mid table in league one would be a great achievement for a newly promoted team. We might finish top 6, we might finish bottom 6, its hard to tell as every game is so close, as others have said we could have lost all 5 or won all 5. My instinct is a lack of goalscorers will hold us back, the great thing is nobody knows how it will pan out in the next 41 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Cherry Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 14 minutes ago, tomski said: Squad looks mid table. How have you come to that Complete Nonsense statement Miller is playing where? Nantwich FFS. We have moved on Johnny just as we moved on from your heroes Delaney & Darcy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2021 11 hours ago, Max Cherry said: Complete Nonsense statement Miller is playing where? Nantwich FFS. We have moved on Johnny just as we moved on from your heroes Delaney & Darcy Darcy given a new contract, not quite moved on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 14 hours ago, tomski said: Squad looks mid table. How have you come to that conclusion? It probably depends on your definition of mid table, it covers quite a lot of positions in a league with as many clubs as this one. I'd have the quality of our squad as top half rather than mid-table, with us being capable of finshing anywhere from 5th to about 12th. Our best starting eleven is a good one, but our strength in depth is where in my opinion we fall short. At least until January, I think we'll have to rely on being lucky with injuries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Think people need to realise most players in our squad have reached their limit L1 max probably 2/3 who could play any higher some Good additions and yes mid table is about right maybe a cheeky play off spot who knows Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 2, 2021 Members Share Posted September 2, 2021 17 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Think people need to realise most players in our squad have reached their limit L1 max probably 2/3 who could play any higher some Good additions and yes mid table is about right maybe a cheeky play off spot who knows Our strength last year was clean sheets, to get up this league that’s what we’ll need to do again if we want to get promoted. IMO we are far too open to be able to achieve anything other than mid table , because we will concede too much as it stands, and I think that’s because we have two attacking Midfielders in Sarc and Sheehan, that stretches us and exposes us a bit more than our back line is used to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted September 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted September 2, 2021 59 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Think people need to realise most players in our squad have reached their limit L1 max probably 2/3 who could play any higher some Good additions and yes mid table is about right maybe a cheeky play off spot who knows That's it for me. We've been up and down like a brides nighty the last few years. Need a couple of years at this level now to slowly build for the championship. Not a hope in hell most of this squad is good enough for a higher division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Top half for me would be an excellent achievement given where we have come from and what we have spent with the resources available. we should have some good wins this season, but some defeats - we ain’t going to win every week. a couple of years in this division is no shame and so long as we keep going forwards - that is and has got to be the right and only way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 52 minutes ago, Rudy said: Our strength last year was clean sheets, to get up this league that’s what we’ll need to do again if we want to get promoted. IMO we are far too open to be able to achieve anything other than mid table , because we will concede too much as it stands, and I think that’s because we have two attacking Midfielders in Sarc and Sheehan, that stretches us and exposes us a bit more than our back line is used to. Exactly but it’s hard to drop Sarc or Sheehan; we are light in defensive midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 2, 2021 Members Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Exactly but it’s hard to drop Sarc or Sheehan; we are light in defensive midfield. They can’t be dropped at the moment I agree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rudy said: They can’t be dropped at the moment I agree Our biggest concern atm is the poor form of Santos - he has lost confidence and can’t pass a ball over 10 metres at the moment. Baptiste experience is missing as well and not sure Johnson is helping with Santos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 2, 2021 Members Share Posted September 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Our biggest concern atm is the poor form of Santos - he has lost confidence and can’t pass a ball over 10 metres at the moment. Baptiste experience is missing as well and not sure Johnson is helping with Santos He’s not looked himself but I don’t think he’s fully fit , Covid and a foot injury won’t have helped Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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