Transfer Gossip

[Casino]

5 hours ago, woolli said:

Reminds me alot of Declan John!

You either have very high standards or are a bit of a loon

As a wing back in this league, declan john has few equals

[Casino]

2 hours ago, Zico said:

Course not 

We just scour the leagues for another one that's gone under the radar  

Of course, but we already have one, a very good one

Our recruitment has been very good, but dapo is our biggest asset, criminally underrated by many fans

Imo

[Tonge moor green jacket]

14 minutes ago, Casino said:

Of course, but we already have one, a very good one

Our recruitment has been very good, but dapo is our biggest asset, criminally underrated by many fans

Imo

He was undroppable first half of the season. 

Rested and interchanged with others the second.

For me Evatt is still looking for his best forward line up- on his day you'd put Dapo in there, but it's not always the case.

A bit of a quandary for the manager and the player.

Stay and keep improving next season and really put himself in the window for a big move, or go in the summer whilst his stock is high now.

The former might not work out however depending upon how Evatt sees things panning out and his stock may drop. The latter might not work out neither as he may not be ready for a higher league just yet.

For me, he may be our most saleable current asset, but in Morley I reckon there is someone who could go further.

[Dr. Feelgood]

I feel a bit sorry for Dapo. The move of shape Evatt adopted after Christmas has meant our best attacker has been played out of position a great deal and often rotated. The reasons have been fair enough but he's become more bit-part than he deserves.

That may have meant he's less exhausted than he might have been. It was possible he'd have found a new niche but it really hasn't worked out that way.

I'm not aware that he's whinged about this  or played up at all, but it's seemed like we've been softened up for his departure. Obviously not if we'd gone up but he may feel there's not time to delay given his relatively late age to break through. Especially if he's going to otherwise be asked to play out of role and rotated.

I'd love him to stay though.

Edited April 21, 2022 by Dr. Feelgood

[Biggish Dave]

Dapo is a championship player all day long. He’s not half had to put up with some rough stuff, bad treatment from refs booking him for telling them he’s getting booted and being shifted around systems because he’s too good to drop on his day.

I’d love him to stay but if he did go, and we could re-invest the income on players, imo, with the way our recruitment has gone recently, that would give us the clout to get 4 or 5 players in who would turn us into serious challengers for the top 2

[radcliffe white]

Even though the officials have been poor dapo at times doesn’t help himself he certainly knows how to draw a foul, clever yes but refs won’t always give them 

[Biggish Dave]

1 minute ago, radcliffe white said:

Even though the officials have been poor dapo at times doesn’t help himself he certainly knows how to draw a foul, clever yes but refs won’t always give them 

Aye, while he’s not blameless he must have had 8 or 9 bookings this season which is ott for me. That booking at Crewe for getting thrown over the hoardings was the worst booking I’ve seen in ages

[woolli]

12 hours ago, Casino said:

You either have very high standards or are a bit of a loon

As a wing back in this league, declan john has few equals

He just cant defend, which, although i know im a loon, is his primary job!

[Casino]

like you said, a loon

ask evatt what his job is

defending will be in there but it wont be front and central

[Johnnyrotten]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

like you said, a loon

ask evatt what his job is

defending will be in there but it wont be front and central

Agreed.  If we were playing Man City away, yes its all about the midfield and defence defending well.  If we're playing Accrington at home the main job of a wingback, or even a full back in a 4-4-2, is to get involved in building attacks.  And defending when needed, that's modern football.  John's great offensively but not the best defensively with his limited height and strength, presumably that's where someone like Iredale would be useful as an alternative. 

[BWFC_LOVE]

I know times and circumstances have changed, but what did get for Cloughy, £3.5m?

Dapo’s ceiling is much higher in my opinion, injuries or not. I’d be disappointed to not get £4m+ if we were to sell. 

[Mantra]

2 minutes ago, BWFC_LOVE said:

I know times and circumstances have changed, but what did get for Cloughy, £3.5m?

Dapo’s ceiling is much higher in my opinion, injuries or not. I’d be disappointed to not get £4m+ if we were to sell. 

Agree with you there. I think Dapo and Santos will still be here next season unless we see bids of 5m+ for them come in

[Rudy]

8 minutes ago, BWFC_LOVE said:

I know times and circumstances have changed, but what did get for Cloughy, £3.5m?

Dapo’s ceiling is much higher in my opinion, injuries or not. I’d be disappointed to not get £4m+ if we were to sell. 

So many factors what makes up a valuation though

[paulhanley]

1 hour ago, Rudy said:

So many factors what makes up a valuation though

I think Dapo is of the kind of age where we are entitled to demand really decent money. This last season has been his first full one in the professional game, but that's under his belt now.

One of the things that would make up such a valuation is how many clubs are interested. Clubs always say they don't want to get involved in bidding wars but to some degree competition is going to hand leverage to the selling club. 

Specifically on Dapo: I don't think we'd get a Prem club interested. More than half of the Championship clubs don't have the brass unless they've made a big sale of their own. I think the dangerous ones for us are recently relegated sides. This year's likely crop being Burnley/Everton, Norwich, Watford and last year's (still with good parachute payments), WBA or Sheff Utd. Cardiff? Don't think they'd have the cash to tempt us.

[Zico]

2 hours ago, BWFC_LOVE said:

I know times and circumstances have changed, but what did get for Cloughy, £3.5m?

Dapo’s ceiling is much higher in my opinion, injuries or not. I’d be disappointed to not get £4m+ if we were to sell. 

Thing is, clough had championship experience, a 1 in 3 record and was 2 years younger, and had 2 full seasons under his belt 

Dapo has one at L1 level 

Be amazed if we got over 2.5m, if we did sell this summer

 

[marple whites]

£4m that’s what we always sell for…..

[Mounts Kipper]

On 21/04/2022 at 13:00, Casino said:

like you said, a loon

ask evatt what his job is

defending will be in there but it wont be front and central

I agree Wingbacks don’t need to be top defenders, that’s why they have 3 centre backs doing the defensive stuff for them. 

[Breightmet Boy]

On 22/04/2022 at 19:48, Zico said:

Thing is, clough had championship experience, a 1 in 3 record and was 2 years younger, and had 2 full seasons under his belt 

Dapo has one at L1 level 

Be amazed if we got over 2.5m, if we did sell this summer

 

Sharon is a very good business lady, I’ve got the full trust she will get what the club think is the correct worth for any player.  If we did sell I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t let anyone go without holding out for the correct sum, and if a clubs got sacks of cash she’ll want as much as possible for our rebuild.   In Sharon we trust.

[Eddie]

22 minutes ago, Breightmet Boy said:

Sharon is a very good business lady, I’ve got the full trust she will get what the club think is the correct worth for any player.  If we did sell I’m pretty sure she wouldn’t let anyone go without holding out for the correct sum, and if a clubs got sacks of cash she’ll want as much as possible for our rebuild.   In Sharon we trust.

I’m in the same boat and it feels quite strange after having no trust in at least one of either owner/manager for so long.

I completely trust that a player will only be sold if it’s the right thing for the club, and we get the right amount. I also trust Evatt, from his record so far, that if we do lose a player because the offer was too good to turn down, then he’ll know exactly who we should get in to replace them. I’ve never heard of the majority of his signings but the vast majority have been a big success - I fully expect that there are plans in place for the next lot.

Nice place to be when you trust owner and manager. I don’t want to see Santos or Dapo go, but there’s no stress as to whether they do or not because if they do I know it’s the right thing and the squad / club will be better off for it.

[Mounts Kipper]

12 minutes ago, Eddie said:

I’m in the same boat and it feels quite strange after having no trust in at least one of either owner/manager for so long.

I completely trust that a player will only be sold if it’s the right thing for the club, and we get the right amount. I also trust Evatt, from his record so far, that if we do lose a player because the offer was too good to turn down, then he’ll know exactly who we should get in to replace them. I’ve never heard of the majority of his signings but the vast majority have been a big success - I fully expect that there are plans in place for the next lot.

Nice place to be when you trust owner and manager. I don’t want to see Santos or Dapo go, but there’s no stress as to whether they do or not because if they do I know it’s the right thing and the squad / club will be better off for it.

Agree 100% I’d be more worried if we lost Evatt rather than any player. 

[paulhanley]

Interesting little additional line in the MEN piece this morning when compared to the BN. Evatt refused to rule out between five and eight summer signings. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bolton-summer-transfer-window-signings-23780499

All of his other words indicate a less active window than last Summer (9 signings) and January (7 signings). 

While I don't think we quite need that number I do believe we need in the 5/6 range (as discussed on here many times Fossey, Trafford, signings across the back line and a new holding midfielder). 

He says we are after quality not quantity and that's great. I do however think the quantity bit in terms of having strength in depth all over the squad will heavily influence whether we are top two or just top six contenders.

Wheeling and dealing in terms of getting a couple of fringe but contracted players off the books is going to be really important to make room for the quality. 

Interesting times ahead after next Saturday and in 7-10 days we'll get our first hints via the retained list.

 

 

Edited April 26, 2022 by paulhanley

[Mounts Kipper]

8 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Interesting little additional line in the MEN piece this morning when compared to the BN. Evatt refused to rule out between five and eight summer signings. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bolton-summer-transfer-window-signings-23780499

All of his other words indicate a less active window than last Summer (9 signings) and January (7 signings). 

While I don't think we quite need that number I do believe we need in the 5/6 range (as discussed on here many times Fossey, Trafford, signings across the back line and a new holding midfielder). 

He says we are after quality not quantity and that's great. I do however think the quantity bit in terms of having strength in depth all over the squad will heavily influence whether we are top two or just top six contenders.

Wheeling and dealing in terms of getting a couple of fringe but contracted players off the books is going to be really important to make room for the quality. 

Interesting times ahead after next Saturday and in 7-10 days we'll get our first hints via the retained list.

 

 

Let’s hope we get the players we need in the summer window and not doing business in January out of necessity. 

[nantwichwhite]

Interesting comment about strikers too. Baka's record was abysmal before he came to us. Whoever saw that spark/potential in him did a cracking job.

[Rudy]

18 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Interesting little additional line in the MEN piece this morning when compared to the BN. Evatt refused to rule out between five and eight summer signings. 

https://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/bolton-summer-transfer-window-signings-23780499

All of his other words indicate a less active window than last Summer (9 signings) and January (7 signings). 

While I don't think we quite need that number I do believe we need in the 5/6 range (as discussed on here many times Fossey, Trafford, signings across the back line and a new holding midfielder). 

He says we are after quality not quantity and that's great. I do however think the quantity bit in terms of having strength in depth all over the squad will heavily influence whether we are top two or just top six contenders.

Wheeling and dealing in terms of getting a couple of fringe but contracted players off the books is going to be really important to make room for the quality. 

Interesting times ahead after next Saturday and in 7-10 days we'll get our first hints via the retained list.

 

 

 

8 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Let’s hope we get the players we need in the summer window and not doing business in January out of necessity. 

Get them in early, sheehan, Lee, Isgrove, Dempsey on a good pre season we’ll be in a good place 

[Rudy]

22 minutes ago, nantwichwhite said:

Interesting comment about strikers too. Baka's record was abysmal before he came to us. Whoever saw that spark/potential in him did a cracking job.

Same with Bod. Scored more with us than 3 years at millwall.