tomski Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Steejay said: It’s like playing with 10 men. He was decent in pre season and also against 4th division Salford. However, he has no effect on the game whatsoever except to show for the ball and then play it back again. Leaving Dapo, Sadlier, Williams out and playing Kachunga is simply a weird selection decision imo. I don’t see it at all. Just feels like a scapegoat if I’m being honest. Which games had it felt like we had 10 men when he starts? Not arguing he’s a world beater but can’t agree he’s like 10 men playing when he starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 9 minutes ago, tomski said: I don’t see it at all. Just feels like a scapegoat if I’m being honest. Which games had it felt like we had 10 men when he starts? Not arguing he’s a world beater but can’t agree he’s like 10 men playing when he starts. Tbf it’s not just kachunga a few haven’t started that well, hope I’m wrong but I sense JDB will spend more time on the treatment table Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I always think that he looks half hearted and not really that committed and he doesn't do enough to influence a game, I think that Kachunga has decent ability I just think that he's never really got out of 2nd gear in his time at BWFC. It appears that we have the Sheff Weds version not the Huddersfield version of Kachunga. Similar with Bakayoko who I personally think is an impact sub at best and a poor signing, I also don't really rate Jones or Williams in terms of being good enough for the championship - If we could replace these 4 with players good enough to play in the championship then we would IMO have a team capable of being top 6, however admittedly this is highly unlikely as I doubt that FV have enough money for 1 championship standard new player never mind 4 ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Black Sheep said: I always think that he looks half hearted and not really that committed and he doesn't do enough to influence a game, I think that Kachunga has decent ability I just think that he's never really got out of 2nd gear in his time at BWFC. It appears that we have the Sheff Weds version not the Huddersfield version of Kachunga. Similar with Bakayoko who I personally think is an impact sub at best and a poor signing, I also don't really rate Jones or Williams in terms of being good enough for the championship - If we could replace these 4 with players good enough to play in the championship then we would IMO have a team capable of being top 6, however admittedly this is highly unlikely as I doubt that FV have enough money for 1 championship standard new player never mind 4 ! FV have basically started from scratch, at best. Maybe we'll start paying Championship money and attracting Championship players when we're in the Championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 My issues with Kachunga are that he seems to want to take the easy option every time, which invariably involves laying it off/passing it back to where it came and the fact that he seems really timid in the challenge. There's undoubted technical ability/skill there, but we're not seeing the best of him yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 That's absolutely fine if we are content with staying in League 1 for a few years, and personally I have no issue with that. However if the club want to have a real good go at promotion this season then unfortunately FV will have to spend more money, as the serious promotion contenders in League 1 have invested in some championship level players. Evatt mentioned after the Villa game this week that he had been offered players that he never thought would consider joining us, therefore if there is serious intent on trying to go up this season then surely we need to be signing a couple of said players ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 7 minutes ago, Traf said: My issues with Kachunga are that he seems to want to take the easy option every time, which invariably involves laying it off/passing it back to where it came and the fact that he seems really timid in the challenge. There's undoubted technical ability/skill there, but we're not seeing the best of him yet. Had a bad injury at Huddersfield and looks like he's never got over it mentally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 12 minutes ago, Black Sheep said: That's absolutely fine if we are content with staying in League 1 for a few years, and personally I have no issue with that. However if the club want to have a real good go at promotion this season then unfortunately FV will have to spend more money, as the serious promotion contenders in League 1 have invested in some championship level players. Evatt mentioned after the Villa game this week that he had been offered players that he never thought would consider joining us, therefore if there is serious intent on trying to go up this season then surely we need to be signing a couple of said players ? Maybe their clubs offered them, but the players would rather stay where they are? Who knows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 52 minutes ago, tomski said: I don’t see it at all. Just feels like a scapegoat if I’m being honest. Which games had it felt like we had 10 men when he starts? Not arguing he’s a world beater but can’t agree he’s like 10 men playing when he starts. 16 minutes ago, Cheese said: FV have basically started from scratch, at best. Maybe we'll start paying Championship money and attracting Championship players when we're in the Championship. I have never booed a Bolton player in my life and have faced up guys who have done. Proper disliked Moxey and Trotter but never booed them. However, I really struggle to see what Kachunga adds. He was gash on Saturday and them on the bench can see that too. He’s not a scapegoat, nor is he hated, he’s just not a game changer. He may have been okay in the past but atm he’s a bit shit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Maybe their clubs offered them, but the players would rather stay where they are? Who knows. Sorry I'm not after a row, but I'm not sure what you mean ? Evatt said on Weds last week that after the Villa game he had been offered players that he could never have thought would be interested in joining BWFC, intimating that there are some quality championship standard players (I assume ?) that would be interested in playing for BWFC, either offered by clubs or agents ?, are you saying things have changed in 4 or 5 days ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 14 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said: Had a bad injury at Huddersfield and looks like he's never got over it mentally. Which seems all the more a strange signing he had that one good season with Huddersfield but after that his goal return was woeful Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 As for the argument that FV haven’t got the pockets to get us up, I think that we’ve proved that we don’t need to spend fortunes to be successful. Evatt’s done a fantastic job but every now and then he seems to get a blind spot, maybe out of loyalty, I don’t know. He’s had it with the goalies (Crellin, Dixon), and he’s got it with Kachunga. He’s put a great squad together for the best part of fuck all but to pick him over some of the others is just getting a bit incomprehensible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Black Sheep said: Sorry I'm not after a row, but I'm not sure what you mean ? Evatt said on Weds last week that after the Villa game he had been offered players that he could never have thought would be interested in joining BWFC, intimating that there are some quality championship standard players (I assume ?) that would be interested in playing for BWFC, either offered by clubs or agents ?, are you saying things have changed in 4 or 5 days ? As I said - maybe their clubs/agents offered them, but the players said they weren't interested. Or maybe there's something in the pipeline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, radcliffe white said: Which seems all the more a strange signing he had that one good season with Huddersfield but after that his goal return was woeful Markham's gambled that Evatt could get him back to a standard where he'd be effective at this level, it's not come off so far and can't see that changing sadly. Back up player until his contract runs out for me. Edited August 29, 2022 by RoadRunnerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Steejay said: I have never booed a Bolton player in my life and have faced up guys who have done. Proper disliked Moxey and Trotter but never booed them. However, I really struggle to see what Kachunga adds. He was gash on Saturday and them on the bench can see that too. He’s not a scapegoat, nor is he hated, he’s just not a game changer. He may have been okay in the past but atm he’s a bit shit. Same applies to Santos after his poor start. And Dapo. The worst thing that could happen now is that the fans turn on them. Give them a break. We're only 6 games in. And we've seen 2 seasons on the bounce how players/results under Evatt shouldn't be judged so early on. Edited August 29, 2022 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 21 minutes ago, Steejay said: As for the argument that FV haven’t got the pockets to get us up, I think that we’ve proved that we don’t need to spend fortunes to be successful. Evatt’s done a fantastic job but every now and then he seems to get a blind spot, maybe out of loyalty, I don’t know. He’s had it with the goalies (Crellin, Dixon), and he’s got it with Kachunga. He’s put a great squad together for the best part of fuck all but to pick him over some of the others is just getting a bit incomprehensible. With respect its a lot harder to get out of league 1 than it was in league 2, you would have to be quite naive to think that we can get out of league 1 without spending money on a few championship standard players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 29, 2022 Moderators Share Posted August 29, 2022 Wycombes record signing is 250k, i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I think Kachunga suffers additionally from the higher expectations that are not unreasonably placed on players who have dropped down from a higher league. That and the likelihood of him being on of our higher earners. He was billed as something of a marquee signing and his output so far he been well short of that reputation in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Casino said: Wycombes record signing is 250k, i think What makes you think its all about transfer fee's ?. FV may just have to loosen the purse strings and increase the salaries that we currently pay to sign the said players that Evatt was speaking about post Villa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Black Sheep said: What makes you think its all about transfer fee's ?. FV may just have to loosen the purse strings and increase the salaries that we currently pay to sign the said players that Evatt was speaking about post Villa. Aye as we know paying more than we can afford is a foolproof method of success. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Black Sheep said: What makes you think its all about transfer fee's ?. FV may just have to loosen the purse strings and increase the salaries that we currently pay to sign the said players that Evatt was speaking about post Villa. I'm sure they will if they can afford to. I think we have to bear in mind that we have a full squad of players signed and are probably near to if not at the limit of our budget already. I think we might have to move one on to bring one in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Sheep Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said: Aye as we know paying more than we can afford is a foolproof method of success. I'm not saying that its the right way to go for the club, however if we don't we won't get out of league 1 anytime soon IMO that's all that I'm saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted August 29, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted August 29, 2022 29 minutes ago, Black Sheep said: With respect its a lot harder to get out of league 1 than it was in league 2, you would have to be quite naive to think that we can get out of league 1 without spending money on a few championship standard players. With respect, you’ve not understood what I’ve said. We’ve got players that have proved they can make a difference. Kachunga isn’t one of them. Evatt’s done a great job with free agents, loans and bargains in the transfer markets. However, nobody gets it right 100% of the time and there’s gonna be some errors. But it’s so obvious, if you go to the games, that he has given Kachunga so many chances and he’s not taken them. I don’t think we’ve lost any of the players that beat Sunderland, Ipswich last season and Wycombe this season. Kachunga didn’t start any of them. The players are mostly there, one or two additions would be great, especially if it’s a striker who contributes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I think folk need to accept we are league one mid table again this season. We will brush aside the shit and Evatt Will be ace and a tactical master and we will then lose to the better sides. this squad is still something assembled relatively cheaply and are not a patch on sides like Sheff Wed. We play some great stuff but we just don’t create / take chances. It’s nice to watch sometimes and great when we win mind Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Sheff weds were good but not a patch on Rotherham or Wigan last season bradley scores it’s a different outcome then we gift them a goal good side but too much smoke being blown for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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