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14 hours ago, Rizlar said:

Don’t think Dion will be going to Stoke they have signed a striker today. 

Until Charles learns to keep his gob shut he won't go anywhere higher than league 1. Shithousery is great when your watching but he's yellow card prone as fuck, the reason we didn't beat Fleetwood by more, and maybe why we were toothless against Wigan.

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9 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

I keep looking on t'internet for news of us signing the quality midfield beast we need but with time running out I'm starting to suspect it isn't going to happen. Maybe last day?

Just read that he will not be bringing in a midfield beast he is confident the players can adjust and sort it themselves ? 

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3 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

Just read that he will not be bringing in a midfield beast he is confident the players can adjust and sort it themselves ? 

That is my worry - although I've not seen a statement to that effect in the media.

If George and Paris up their game a bit more I won't be as concerned when we play the better quality physical teams.

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18 minutes ago, Rizlar said:

Bolton news check it out 

"if they've got steel and technical ability they're in the Premiership"???

Does that mean that despite the clubs earlier statements about the new rules for scouting in Europe they are in fact only been looking in England for the last 6 months?

There are loads of decent DMs available on a free transfer if they look far enough e.g. Romanian international Marco Dulca or:

 
 
       
Jacek Goralski Jacek Goralski
Defensive Midfield
       
Evgeniy Yablonskiy Evgeniy Yablonskiy
Defensive Midfield
       
Gaoussou Traoré Gaoussou Traoré
Defensive Midfield
       
Pelé Pelé
Defensive Midfield
       
Jorge Hernández Jorge Hernández
Defensive Midfield
       
Damien Le Tallec Damien Le Tallec
Defensive Midfield
       
Diogo Capitão Diogo Capitão
Defensive Midfield
       
Jessy Pi Jessy Pi
Defensive Midfield
       
Sulayman Marreh Sulayman Marreh
Defensive Midfield
       
   
 
       
Rodrigo Lindoso Rodrigo Lindoso
Defensive Midfield
       
Lucas Biglia Lucas Biglia
Defensive Midfield
       
Isaac Sackey Isaac Sackey
Defensive Midfield
       
Deni Hočko Deni Hočko
Defensive Midfield
       
Manuel Prietl Manuel Prietl
Defensive Midfield
       
Regis Baha Regis Baha
Defensive Midfield
       
Sékou Sanogo Sékou Sanogo
Defensive Midfield
       
Isaac Cofie Isaac Cofie
Defensive Midfield
       
Marko Djurisic Marko Djurisic
Defensive Midfield
       
Martin Raynov Martin Raynov
Defensive Midfield
       
Rithely Rithely
Defensive Midfield
       
Nunoo Sarpei Nunoo Sarpei
Defensive Midfield
       
Erik Zenga Erik Zenga
Defensive Midfield
       
David Cancola David Cancola
Defensive Midfield
       
Jospin Nshimirimana Jospin Nshimirimana
Defensive Midfield
       
Luiz Antônio Luiz Antônio
Defensive Midfield
     

 

 

OK - mixed bag this lot but there are loads more out there so what happened to the wide net Markham was on about?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Genuine question - do folk genuinely  believe there’s a magical meathead available out there who will play in L1, who we bring in for certain games ahead of Thomason/Morley/Maghoma, who’s going to transform us into winning every game? 

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1 minute ago, desperado said:

Genuine question - do folk genuinely  believe there’s a magical meathead available out there who will play in L1, who we bring in for certain games ahead of Thomason/Morley/Maghoma, who’s going to transform us into winning every game? 

We found one with Karl Henry couple of years ago, so I’d say yes there is. 

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1 minute ago, desperado said:

Genuine question - do folk genuinely  believe there’s a magical meathead available out there who will play in L1, who we bring in for certain games ahead of Thomason/Morley/Maghoma, who’s going to transform us into winning every game? 

A: We don't know unless we look everywhere, all the time.

You forgot to mention "affordable" and "willing to live on England" to your list of barriers BTW

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4 minutes ago, desperado said:

Genuine question - do folk genuinely  believe there’s a magical meathead available out there who will play in L1, who we bring in for certain games ahead of Thomason/Morley/Maghoma, who’s going to transform us into winning every game? 

Win every game - No.

Improve the squad  - Yes

is nt the point of a transfer to sign players who improve the team/squad ? 

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24 minutes ago, Ani said:

Win every game - No.

Improve the squad  - Yes

is nt the point of a transfer to sign players who improve the team/squad ? 

We’ll see.

I think it’s become a popular fan view that’s got picked up on and trotted out as an easy solution - the number of times I’ve heard “Karl Henry type” 

I’m not underplaying what he did and what other players of that ilk did do. But there’s so many things to consider;    Certain players fit a team, manager, style, circumstance and more.

Even then you have to consider whether that type of player not only adds quality on the pitch, but off it with squad dynamics, especially if they are only being rolled out for certain games! 

Even if we find that player he then limits the opportunity to find a solution within an already competitive midfield - We’re early in the season, Thomason and Maghoma have potential to be midfield leaders and have added qualities that fit our style. I want to see more of them.

Don’t get me wrong, I think we have an issue re midfield leaders. And I’d love it if Evatt/Markham find the player  that addresses this problem in the transfer market.

I just think it goes beyond realism and there are ignored complexities when people throw out comments like “We need a hard bastard in the middle” or “That Karl Henry type midfielder” 

 

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35 minutes ago, desperado said:

Genuine question - do folk genuinely  believe there’s a magical meathead available out there who will play in L1, who we bring in for certain games ahead of Thomason/Morley/Maghoma, who’s going to transform us into winning every game? 

It’s not a meathead required mate it’s just someone who can handle themselves like I mentioned other day spearing, pratley, O’Neil, Henry even vela to an extent could all mix it

is there that kind of player knocking about? I certainly think there is but it may go against what IE & Markham believe in as you will probably be going for an older player but let’s not forget this is L1 football and not overcomplicate things, look back at the teams who have won promotion wigan, Rotherham, ipswich, sheff weds, Plymouth etc they all had some bite in them 

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4 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

It’s not a meathead required mate it’s just someone who can handle themselves like I mentioned other day spearing, pratley, O’Neil, Henry even vela to an extent could all mix it

is there that kind of player knocking about? I certainly think there is but it may go against what IE & Markham believe in as you will probably be going for an older player but let’s not forget this is L1 football and not overcomplicate things, look back at the teams who have won promotion wigan, Rotherham, ipswich, sheff weds, Plymouth etc they all had some bite in them 

I don’t disagree with any of that pal. 

Like I said above I just think it’s a bit more complex than identifying and saying it, than finding a realistic solution to it.

What’s your thoughts on developing Thomason and Maghoma into that type of role? And the fact that if we do  find and bring in that type of player then their (and our other effective midfielders)  game time will be reduced and compromised? 

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52 minutes ago, desperado said:

Genuine question - do folk genuinely  believe there’s a magical meathead available out there who will play in L1, who we bring in for certain games ahead of Thomason/Morley/Maghoma, who’s going to transform us into winning every game? 

It doesn’t have to be a Meathead. For me most of the best ball winners were more terrier like small players, Nobby Stiles, Archie Gemmill, Billy Bremner and the like who constantly nibbled at opposition players and wore them down. We’ve had some of those in the past like Spearing, Patterson and Vela so there must be that type of player about. I often think winning the ball fairly is often the unappreciated bit of football but who doesn’t love a crunching tackle, legal of course, which gets the crowd going as much as a mazy run. I think Evatt is underestimating the art of winning the ball and distributing it.

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6 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

I think Evatt is underestimating the art of winning the ball and distributing it.

Sheehan, which surprised me when I first saw and commented upon it pre-season, has been (Wigan apart) doing this really well. 

So I’m 99% sure Evatt doesn’t underestimate it. 

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7 minutes ago, desperado said:

I don’t disagree with any of that pal. 

Like I said above I just think it’s a bit more complex than identifying and saying it, than finding a realistic solution to it.

What’s your thoughts on developing Thomason and Maghoma into that type of role? And the fact that if we do  find and bring in that type of player then their (and our other effective midfielders)  game time will be reduced and compromised? 

Thomason is already that type, and maybe should be given a run.

Maghoma seems an attacking player, and also isn't ours so maybe not the right person.

The fact that Evatt doesn't seem to want to utilise players of this ilk could be pivotal. 

The stronger teams last season also tended to score more goals too, so its not purely about maintaining possession and and being pretty.

First three games suggest we've improved in that regard, and Evatt himself said we've gone a touch more direct in that the ball is coming into the box more. 

Still, however, have a weak underbelly. 

Whether what we have is enough, only time will tell.

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12 minutes ago, desperado said:

I don’t disagree with any of that pal. 

Like I said above I just think it’s a bit more complex than identifying and saying it, than finding a realistic solution to it.

What’s your thoughts on developing Thomason and Maghoma into that type of role? And the fact that if we do  find and bring in that type of player then their (and our other effective midfielders)  game time will be reduced and compromised? 

Maghoma is the interesting one you read up about him and it’s all very positive box to box midfielder who can play the enforcer so we could well have something here

Thomasson has improved massively but we have also improved he doesn’t offer enough in terms of creating for me, I know it sounds mad just been pumped 4-0 but playing 3 CBs we don’t need another defensive type player. 

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3 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

Maghoma is the interesting one you read up about him and it’s all very positive box to box midfielder who can play the enforcer so we could well have something here

Thomasson has improved massively but we have also improved he doesn’t offer enough in terms of creating for me, I know it sounds mad just been pumped 4-0 but playing 3 CBs we don’t need another defensive type player. 

We do, as sometimes our centre halves push up and Santos is left alone. An intelligent defensive type will fill in into any gaps defenders may leave as required. 

Thomason is also a decent passer of the ball too, so not overly arsed if he doesn't go dribbling at players or getting into the box too often.

Can cope against most teams, as we've seen already. But perhaps not against some.

 

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