Transfer Gossip

[Johnnyrotten]

12 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

FWIW I think he’ll take some time away then decide to give it another go. But if it doesn’t start well can see him out the door early on. 

That's the worst scenario for me.  Either we give Evatt the season, with his players and his system and his captain, or we give someone else the summer and the season to make it work.

Someone taking over in October after a bad start to the season, with a squad of 25 of IEs players set up to play with wingbacks and no wingers, would be virtually writing the season off in terms of top 2.

This isn't a call for him to go - but if he stays, its for the majority of the season just like it was this year, nobody started off in August saying if we don't start well he's out the door.

[ianofcleveleys]

59 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said:

That's the worst scenario for me.  Either we give Evatt the season, with his players and his system and his captain, or we give someone else the summer and the season to make it work.

Someone taking over in October after a bad start to the season, with a squad of 25 of IEs players set up to play with wingbacks and no wingers, would be virtually writing the season off in terms of top 2.

This isn't a call for him to go - but if he stays, its for the majority of the season just like it was this year, nobody started off in August saying if we don't start well he's out the door.

If he starts it'd be on the basis that he'd get at least till Xmas, a fair crack but still enough time (20+ games) for a new man to put enough of a run together to put us in the mix, assuming at that point we're in mid table. 

Because of how totally wedded to a playing style he's been, our recruitment totally geared to it, and so little room contractually for radical squad surgery, I'm sadly not seeing us kicking off in 80-odd days playing 4-3-3 or something like that.

All I'm hoping we might see is a physical enforcer at the base of midfield with Sheehan freed up to play in the pockets behind the front two, and maybe the return of Johnston, allowing Toal to go back on right CB and Jones / Dacres Cogley to scrap it out for RWB. That might be a start, still a few more areas of weakness to address

[itdiddidit?]

3 hours ago, Marc505 said:

God's fault 😃 Fair enough, move on he was never going to be turning out for us again in L1

Is it your mate in the BWFC song writing department?

He's gonna have a busy summer if Evatt leaves too  

[Marc505]

24 minutes ago, itdiddidit? said:

Is it your mate in the BWFC song writing department?

He's gonna have a busy summer if Evatt leaves too  

Yeah.

In truth I'd be happy if I never heard it again. 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

 

[Mantra]

How odd

[Farrelli]

He will have a field mill day against us

[bwfc6ix]

What was the reason he didn’t sign for us in the end? Was it wage demands?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

1 minute ago, bwfc6ix said:

What was the reason he didn’t sign for us in the end? Was it wage demands?

Yes

He was a salty bastard about it as well

[Zico]

1 minute ago, bwfc6ix said:

What was the reason he didn’t sign for us in the end? Was it wage demands?

more than likely

250k fee was agreed

he wanted to come

“The move didn’t really go too smoothly and I’ve learned from situations in the past when things go smoothly that’s where you’re meant to be and vice versa.

“Nothing against Bolton at all, but I’ve learned when a team really wants you they’ll do most things to make it happen.

https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/23723330.bolton-wanderers-move-wasnt-meant-says-keanu-baccus/

 

[Zico]

sounds like he chose Mansfield over Rangers too 

https://www.rangersnews.uk/transfer-news/rangers-linked-keanu-baccus-makes-st-mirren-call-before-dropping-clue-on-next-destination/

[Arrested development]

Didn't something pop up on his medical about his knee, vaguely recall that. 

[Dr. Feelgood]

4 hours ago, bwfc6ix said:

What was the reason he didn’t sign for us in the end? Was it wage demands?

Yes, but very odd as he was on lthree parts of f'call at St. Mirren.

Pretty sure the Australian manager got involved too. 

[TrickyTrotter]

Only 17 starts for St Mirren and 14 appearances off the bench this season.

Don't think we've missed out on much.

Edited May 22, 2024 by TrickyTrotter

[Whitesince63]

Strange move but I don’t think his attitude would suit here and if he has to fly half way round the world for Internationals I’d give him a miss on that too.

[Dr. Feelgood]

37 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said:

Strange move but I don’t think his attitude would suit here and if he has to fly half way round the world for Internationals I’d give him a miss on that too.

So that's Iredale & Jones getting their bags packed. Maybe why the Rivaldo deal fell through & why we never even tried for Messi.

[1969]

Rumours Rangers are in for Charles 

[Dr. Feelgood]

No-one, really, has a clue about Baccus. Paid very little for years in Paisley. Offered a considerable rise to come here but then got Billy-big-bollocks & turned it down. Started 14 games in the pub league last season & now signed for Mansfield.

It's possible we've fckd up, it's possible we dodged a bullet & it's probable he'll fade into the background, scoring 4 goals all next season, all against us.

 

[jayjayoghani]

His brother Keyren Baccus is in the shit for betting 

[bwfc6ix]

1 hour ago, 1969 said:

Rumours Rangers are in for Charles 

Interesting one this. Still got a couple years on his contract so not like there’s a desperate need to sell.

It’d need a healthy offer to let him go. 

[Traf]

Just now, bwfc6ix said:

Interesting one this. Still got a couple years on his contract so not like there’s a desperate need to sell.

It’d need a healthy offer to let him go. 

£1m or more and I think we'd listen to offers IMO
It's 3 times what we paid for him, so a moneyball success.

He'll be 29 before Christmas and if Rangers come in and Watford/Stoke renew their interest, we might well get a chunk more than £1m

[Deanu]

He's going to be 29 in a few months, this summer is probably last chance to get a real decent fee for him thanks to the new extension he signed last season. Back to back 20 goal seasons in all comps, good healthy profit reinvested in a younger striker.

[bwfc6ix]

3 minutes ago, Traf said:

£1m or more and I think we'd listen to offers IMO
It's 3 times what we paid for him, so a moneyball success.

He'll be 29 before Christmas and if Rangers come in and Watford/Stoke renew their interest, we might well get a chunk more than £1m

Can’t disagree with that. Just hope we’d be able to replace with someone quality. Would only leave us with Collins, Vic and Dan. And at this moment in time, I’d rather have a current day Jardel than Dan. 

[Casino]

14 minutes ago, Traf said:

£1m or more and I think we'd listen to offers IMO
It's 3 times what we paid for him, so a moneyball success.

Id agree but replacing his goals for a million is far from guaranteed

[Eddie]

26 minutes ago, Deanu said:

He's going to be 29 in a few months, this summer is probably last chance to get a real decent fee for him thanks to the new extension he signed last season. Back to back 20 goal seasons in all comps, good healthy profit reinvested in a younger striker.

Really good point and why I think we’ll listen to offers.

I think Santos is case in point where he’s had his peak value and now due to only having a year left of his contract and us not going up I think we’ll only get less and less for him. Part of the model is to cash in when we can get top value and I think Charles is about at that point - as Casino says, can you replace his goals with a younger version. Personally I think you can (how many penalties in the 20?) but I also wouldn’t mind seeing a full season of a Collins / Charles front line.