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27 minutes ago, BWFC_LOVE said:

I get that he’s young and short of match fitness, and I do rate what I’ve seen of him, but Forrester’s last appearance was the home game we should’ve won (when Ogbeta chose to chest it in), which felt like it had consolidated us to the play offs through not winning.

Think it was Shrewsbury at home. He was absolutely dreadful that night. I’m not surprised we haven’t seen him since.

I’m also a massive fan of Gethin. And when he’s occasionally roaming forward in the RCB role to support the attack, he’s excellent. Definitely prefer him at RWB though. 

I agree Forrester had a bad game that night, and I think there is a danger of him getting better with every game he doesn't play.  But for me he's a stopper, a defender - when he's asked to bomb forward in a game where we're making all the running, he's not the best.  But he's another one IE paid decent money for, and he isn't playing him, so was that the best use of our limited resources?  We've spent a lot of money on a few players and we're still waiting to see the improvement on the pitch with a lot of them.

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2 hours ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

Did this happen outside the club shop?..... Its where he usually gets his invites 😁

It happens every night. We finally succumbed to our desires and we live together now.

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Forrester is in the ‘more he doesn’t play better he gets ‘ category 

To me he’s a squad player primarily cover for others .

I agree he had a bad game against Shrewsbury, the others weren’t great either.

Santos despite his faults is still our best CB , just needs a different script & relieving of the captaincy.

Jones is more or less done as a CB , but agree with others ok at fullback or wingback.

Toal we all agree is far better playing on his correct side , future captain.

Hopefully we’ll sign a target man type forward in the Bod mould.

Signing Ashworth I think would be positive , good temperament & can defend a bit.

 

 

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33 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Me too.

A bit rough chucking him in for the odd game, and dropping him again (irrespective of whether he has a worldy or not).

Had a little run and looked impressive. 

I’ll third that, think he will be quality… and very harsh dropping him after just returning from his injury.

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1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said:

I’ll third that, think he will be quality… and very harsh dropping him after just returning from his injury.

I agree too, he was looking excellent in the run he had and was unlucky to lose his place when Gethin came back from his Australia trip. I’d certainly consider moving Jones to RWB to challenge JDC instead and leave Toal and Forrester to challenge for the CH position.

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1 minute ago, Whitesince63 said:

leave Toal and Forrester to challenge for the CH position

Toal, Forrester and Santos, IMHO. Nothing tells me our “leader” is undroppable, based on the last four months.

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I think Forrester is a class RCB in the making so if we persist with 3 at the back it would be him, Santos and Toal for me.

However I’d sell Sheehan if possible. Great against teams that offer little threat, but easily taken out of the game and if somebody is going to play defensive mid I’d be wanting a beast who can tackle, run and distribute as it’s such a key role - maybe George will grow into it otherwise sign someone with the Sheehan money.

The attacking dilemma centres around our WBs. Personally I’d be starting Jones and Iredale and only bringing on the wingers ( Williams, Cogley or any loanees we might get) later in the game if required. All in all start with 6 players that can defend if required and still offer something to support the attack rather than 3. The likes of Ogbeta and Cogley would only get a look in later in the game if it was me.

Midfield including a 10 need to be stronger and capable of holding the middle and scoring themselves as well as setting up Dion  and Collins. Current lot can be walked through and seldom create real chances. Sheehan could go back to playing as a ten but I’d probably prefer CMG.

 

Should be interesting.

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6 hours ago, Wanderlust said:

I think Forrester is a class RCB in the making so if we persist with 3 at the back it would be him, Santos and Toal for me.

However I’d sell Sheehan if possible. Great against teams that offer little threat, but easily taken out of the game and if somebody is going to play defensive mid I’d be wanting a beast who can tackle, run and distribute as it’s such a key role - maybe George will grow into it otherwise sign someone with the Sheehan money.

The attacking dilemma centres around our WBs. Personally I’d be starting Jones and Iredale and only bringing on the wingers ( Williams, Cogley or any loanees we might get) later in the game if required. All in all start with 6 players that can defend if required and still offer something to support the attack rather than 3. The likes of Ogbeta and Cogley would only get a look in later in the game if it was me.

Midfield including a 10 need to be stronger and capable of holding the middle and scoring themselves as well as setting up Dion  and Collins. Current lot can be walked through and seldom create real chances. Sheehan could go back to playing as a ten but I’d probably prefer CMG.

 

Should be interesting.

would be boring

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52 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

would be boring

either boring and churn out results or exciting and risk losing like last saturday..

Can't have both on our budgets. 

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We can if we change the system at times, A back four off Baxter, Forrester, Santos, Johnston, and Toal will be as good as anything in the league. We need that Bastard to sit in front of those four. Sunjic released at Birmingham would be ideal.

Thomason on the left Sheehan central and Dempsey right

With gomes when fit, Collins and Charles up top

 

 

You can have both with that team

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27 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

We can if we change the system at times, A back four off Baxter, Forrester, Santos, Johnston, and Toal will be as good as anything in the league. We need that Bastard to sit in front of those four. Sunjic released at Birmingham would be ideal.

Thomason on the left Sheehan central and Dempsey right

With gomes when fit, Collins and Charles up top

 

 

You can have both with that team

Losing the play offs has put these type signings out of our league, he's reportedly on 17.5k per week so doubt that happening that’s if he’d even consider league 1.

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19 minutes ago, radcliffe white said:

If santos is as good as folk say surely a championship club will try an offer? 

The fact that they haven't over the last 18 months or so speaks volumes.

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1 hour ago, masi 51 said:

We can if we change the system at times, A back four off Baxter, Forrester, Santos, Johnston, and Toal will be as good as anything in the league. We need that Bastard to sit in front of those four. Sunjic released at Birmingham would be ideal.

Thomason on the left Sheehan central and Dempsey right

With gomes when fit, Collins and Charles up top

 

 

You can have both with that team

I assume you don’t mean Forrester, Santos, Johnston and Toal on the pitch at the same time?

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1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

I assume you don’t mean Forrester, Santos, Johnston and Toal on the pitch at the same time?

It's not as bizarre as it sounds. City do it occasionally, play 4 centre backs, with the idea being general strength and good in the air I guess. 

Not my preferred back 4 line up, but a manager with that ability to change it up and surprise teams would be excellent 

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1 hour ago, Jol_BWFC said:

I assume you don’t mean Forrester, Santos, Johnston and Toal on the pitch at the same time?

Forrester, Johnston have certainly played full back in the past.....And with that system    Thomason and Dempsey can fill in at lb/rb  out of posession

It is about adapting on the pitch, giving the players confidence in how they play.

Again i am not saying play that week in week out

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1 hour ago, masi 51 said:

Forrester, Johnston have certainly played full back in the past.....And with that system    Thomason and Dempsey can fill in at lb/rb  out of posession

It is about adapting on the pitch, giving the players confidence in how they play.

Again i am not saying play that week in week out

I think he may be refering to the fact the you have 11 outfield players on that list.... 

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Fair enough. I just don’t see that suiting Evatt’s style of play. He’s keen on the likes of JDC, Conor Bradley, Williams, Ogbeta etc pushing forward to create extra men to pass sideways and backwards to.

If it had been Jones, Santos, Johnston and Iredale (all players who have played CB) I could have more easily seen Jones / Iredale pushing forward.

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31 minutes ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

I think he may be refering to the fact the you have 11 outfield players on that list.... 

Yes i should have put it better i meant gomez or one of the two forwards, obviously gomes is not fit. So it would be a 4/1/3/2   with flexibility to change formation when defending

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14 minutes ago, masi 51 said:

Yes i should have put it better i meant gomez or one of the two forwards, obviously gomes is not fit. So it would be a 4/1/3/2   with flexibility to change formation when defending

Have you ever actually played football ? 

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5 hours ago, paulhanley said:

The fact that they haven't over the last 18 months or so speaks volumes.

How do you know there haven't been offers? The club won't release info every time a club / agent get in touch.

Santos is an outstanding League 1 defender. No doubt that Championship strikers are quicker, more agile, etc. Santos is great in the one on one sprint races and physical battles (Yengi aside), but struggles when quick strikers lay off and turn (who you see more of in the Championship). If there haven't been offers, this is likely the reason. He is good enough to help us get up, and good enough for a Championship season. I don't think the lack of offers is reflective of his ability at all. 

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