Mounts Kipper Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 5 minutes ago, gonzo said: Think we've produced Zach Clough and Rob Holding in the past 30 years. It's just a job club. Mooy, Vaz Te, Ward, off top of my head, sure they’ll be more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted June 27 Moderators Share Posted June 27 Just now, Mounts Kipper said: Mooy, Vaz Te, Ward, off top of my head, sure they’ll be more. Put the finishing touches on Nolan as well fwiw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Mooy, Vaz Te, Ward, off top of my head, sure they’ll be more. Norris, Vela, at least three keepers including one international (Ramsdale, Lynch and Turner). And there’s probably more; including lads we rejected at 16 (Ramsdale is one) who then were finished at other clubs. Edited June 27 by Rival Son Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 27 Moderators Share Posted June 27 16 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Mooy, Vaz Te, Ward, off top of my head, sure they’ll be more. Ward cost us 200k, not sure on the other 2 but they sure as fuck werent arriving for training in nappies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 37 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Mooy, Vaz Te, Ward, off top of my head, sure they’ll be more. Did they make the operation profitable? No chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 Chris Basham and Nat Phillips Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 Luca Connell Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 Millions rolling in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 As is quite often the case @tomski is spot on. We aren’t developing many and if they are any good they get taken away…..Luca Connell, Nat Phillips, the kid who went to Arsenal are 3 examples off the top of my head. a model got released players from higher up has to be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 27 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27 4 minutes ago, Big E said: As is quite often the case @tomski is spot on. We aren’t developing many and if they are any good they get taken away…..Luca Connell, Nat Phillips, the kid who went to Arsenal are 3 examples off the top of my head. a model got released players from higher up has to be cheaper. Get what you're saying; my worry would be the image it creates of the club. Picking up bigger clubs' cast offs is a competitive situation anyway, but without something they can feel part of straight away, then they may look elsewhere. What would be the hidden costs of potentially losing out on youngsters, even if we do save a bit on not having our own set up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Get what you're saying; my worry would be the image it creates of the club. Picking up bigger clubs' cast offs is a competitive situation anyway, but without something they can feel part of straight away, then they may look elsewhere. What would be the hidden costs of potentially losing out on youngsters, even if we do save a bit on not having our own set up? But picking up kids is pointless (and dodgey with them pesky Facebook groups a b team is sufficient if we are picking up 18 years old and older. if they want to come they will come. They ain’t signing for a team because they have a great u12’s set up. They want a route to first team professional football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 27 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27 7 minutes ago, Big E said: But picking up kids is pointless (and dodgey with them pesky Facebook groups a b team is sufficient if we are picking up 18 years old and older. if they want to come they will come. They ain’t signing for a team because they have a great u12’s set up. They want a route to first team professional football That depends upon what we define an academy as then. If just for really young ones, then fair enough. If we're talking about mid- late teens, released by Premier clubs, then they're still going to need the route as you describe. Would the b team be a bit too strong for some of the younger ones, and if so, where would they fit in? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 26 minutes ago, Big E said: As is quite often the case @tomski is spot on. We aren’t developing many and if they are any good they get taken away…..Luca Connell, Nat Phillips, the kid who went to Arsenal are 3 examples off the top of my head. a model got released players from higher up has to be cheaper. I think on this matter he’s wrong. What decent size club with aspirations of championship/prem doesn’t have an academy… even Wigan produce through their academy, we just need to improve it and spend some money on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Mounts Kipper said: If a 16 year old leaves one of the big clubs he ain’t coming Bolton if we don’t have an academy. Blackburn and Burnley have good academies they’ll go there we miss out. That’s my point. I don’t see why they’d be bothered how having younger age groups or not would be important to them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 16 minutes ago, tomski said: I don’t see why they’d be bothered how having younger age groups or not would be important to them. I think they'd still need to go into some form of Academy team at that age, wouldn't they? There can't be many who'd go straight from youth football to the B Team as 16-years-old And if there were, they/their parents would surely want a regular and gauranteed fixture list - many of our B Team fixtures end up cancelled at short notice or are arranged on an ad-hoc basis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 Anyway, now Wigan are on a budget, can we not just steal their youth coaches and let them do over here what they're currently doing over there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Chris Basham and Nat Phillips Nat Phillips Is SHAGGING Liam Gallagher's Daughter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 7 minutes ago, little whitt said: Nat Phillips Is SHAGGING Liam Gallagher's Daughter I didn't KNOW That Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: That depends upon what we define an academy as then. If just for really young ones, then fair enough. If we're talking about mid- late teens, released by Premier clubs, then they're still going to need the route as you describe. Would the b team be a bit too strong for some of the younger ones, and if so, where would they fit in? I am saying not to bother with any under 18’s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think they'd still need to go into some form of Academy team at that age, wouldn't they? There can't be many who'd go straight from youth football to the B Team as 16-years-old And if there were, they/their parents would surely want a regular and gauranteed fixture list - many of our B Team fixtures end up cancelled at short notice or are arranged on an ad-hoc basis Ah ok my point was start at 16 and the rest go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DirtySanchez Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 2 hours ago, Rival Son said: Norris, Vela, at least three keepers including one international (Ramsdale, Lynch and Turner). And there’s probably more; including lads we rejected at 16 (Ramsdale is one) who then were finished at other clubs. Wasn't that Brooks who's at Bournemouth (I think) one we rejected? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 17 minutes ago, tomski said: Ah ok my point was start at 16 and the rest go. Yeah, I could see that being worthwhile Like you've pointed out, any talented youngster younger than that will likely be whisked off to City or United for buttons Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 27 Members Share Posted June 27 18 minutes ago, DirtySanchez said: Wasn't that Brooks who's at Bournemouth (I think) one we rejected? He was Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 27 Share Posted June 27 (edited) 1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I think they'd still need to go into some form of Academy team at that age, wouldn't they? There can't be many who'd go straight from youth football to the B Team as 16-years-old And if there were, they/their parents would surely want a regular and gauranteed fixture list - many of our B Team fixtures end up cancelled at short notice or are arranged on an ad-hoc basis i don't see the point in us having 16 to 18 year olds unless we get funding. we need to be working around people who will be ready sooner. Brentford don't have teams other than U18 and the B team. surely thats the model to follow Edited June 27 by Big E Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted June 27 Moderators Share Posted June 27 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He was us and many others, i think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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