Wanderlust Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 4 hours ago, gonzo said: but for whatever reason Critchly wouldn't give him proper game time. ...and neither did a string of previous managers so you have to suspect there is some kind of issue with him and I think that it's because he is too lightweight and easily knocked off the ball as discussed above. Sure as hell looks good and that's why fans love him - but wanting him to do consistently well isn't enough in a results business. Surely if we can buy him it will be a punt to see if we can bulk him up without him losing pace? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 16 Members Share Posted July 16 11 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: ...and neither did a string of previous managers so you have to suspect there is some kind of issue with him and I think that it's because he is too lightweight and easily knocked off the ball as discussed above. Sure as hell looks good and that's why fans love him - but wanting him to do consistently well isn't enough in a results business. Surely if we can buy him it will be a punt to see if we can bulk him up without him losing pace? You were claiming PL/Champ clubs were in for him and we had no hope of signing him yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 12 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: ...and neither did a string of previous managers so you have to suspect there is some kind of issue with him and I think that it's because he is too lightweight and easily knocked off the ball as discussed above. Sure as hell looks good and that's why fans love him - but wanting him to do consistently well isn't enough in a results business. Surely if we can buy him it will be a punt to see if we can bulk him up without him losing pace? If there wasn’t an issue with him he wouldn’t be a L1 transfer potential Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 25 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: ...and neither did a string of previous managers so you have to suspect there is some kind of issue with him and I think that it's because he is too lightweight and easily knocked off the ball as discussed above. Sure as hell looks good and that's why fans love him - but wanting him to do consistently well isn't enough in a results business. Surely if we can buy him it will be a punt to see if we can bulk him up without him losing pace? Well fuck it then. Let's just not sign anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Looks like we are going to lose Wesley Frimpong from the b team Brother of Jermaine who is set to sign for Liverpool for 35m Offered a contract but turned it down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 14 minutes ago, gonzo said: Well fuck it then. Let's just not sign anyone. Or let's do what I actually said - which was to reference what I said yesterday i.e. he's a punt but one I would take if we can get him at the right price. The only reason I'm taking Iles semi-seriously is because what at first glance looked like posturing, feigning a "take it or leave it" move in the Armstrong negotiations is offset by Innes claiming he is desperate for Armstrong to stay - as I still suspect that Armstrong is the number one target, but if that has hit a wall, this kid is a possibility. We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 16 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Looks like we are going to lose Wesley Frimpong from the b team Brother of Jermaine who is set to sign for Liverpool for 35m Offered a contract but turned it down Be a decent move that. Lovely apparently over there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 17 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Looks like we are going to lose Wesley Frimpong from the b team Brother of Jermaine who is set to sign for Liverpool for 35m Offered a contract but turned it down Shame really as if he turns out to be half as good as Jeremie he'll be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 1 minute ago, Wanderlust said: Shame really as if he turns out to be half as good as Jeremie he'll be great. If he was any good he wouldn’t be playing b team football at 20. Austrian side in talks. Some sources mention where his brother is but it’s purely because his brother is there. has he made a good name in the b team ? Don’t recall him being on the bench for the first team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted July 16 Site Supporter Share Posted July 16 58 minutes ago, Big E said: If he was any good he wouldn’t be playing b team football at 20. Austrian side in talks. Some sources mention where his brother is but it’s purely because his brother is there. has he made a good name in the b team ? Don’t recall him being on the bench for the first team Probably. The only caveat for me, is that we haven't got a good recent record of bringing youngsters through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Sheffield Wednesday , Derby and Portsmouth are all after Dembele. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 37 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Sheffield Wednesday , Derby and Portsmouth are all after Dembele. Forget that one then! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 41 minutes ago, Rizlar said: Sheffield Wednesday , Derby and Portsmouth are all after Dembele. Makes it even weirder we have gone to press Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ohjimmyjimmy Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 minutes ago, Big E said: Makes it even weirder we have gone to press Maybe just a diversion tactic then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 Think illes has been served a kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 16 Moderators Share Posted July 16 since we love conspiracy theories, ive heard evatt told morley to see if iles found out this is just bollocks by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted July 16 Site Supporter Share Posted July 16 41 minutes ago, Casino said: since we love conspiracy theories, ive heard evatt told morley to see if iles found out this is just bollocks by the way Coleen tactics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 16 Moderators Share Posted July 16 In fact, did evatt tell allardyce who saw chance for a bottle of red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmjhb Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 This year's Kane Wilson. Will score the winner to keep us down another year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 17 minutes ago, Casino said: In fact, did evatt tell allardyce who saw chance for a bottle of red Clearly bullshit. Any damn fool knows Big Sam takes his vino white, and by the Pint. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 6 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: You were claiming PL/Champ clubs were in for him and we had no hope of signing him yesterday Quote Sheffield Wednesday , Derby and Portsmouth are all after Dembele. That's not too bad - it implies that PL interest has died down. Quote Maybe just a diversion tactic then. Maybe, maybe not - but my first thought was that's exactly what it is to encourage Kilmarnock to sell. Then I realised there's little advantage in feigning disinterest or pretending we have other fish to fry - like Steve Guppy for example - when Killie's manager is desperate to keep Armstrong.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted July 16 Moderators Share Posted July 16 5 hours ago, Big E said: Makes it even weirder we have gone to press maybe we are going with what we've got, but giving the likes of Iles the idea we are trying to sign the likes of Dembele, Maghoma, Armstrong etc so we can say "at least we tried" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stig Posted July 16 Share Posted July 16 5 hours ago, masi 51 said: Think illes has been served a kipper It's just really weird isn't it. Usually we're silent about transfers and Iles is pretty good about not speculating, and then all of sudden he's saying we're getting 2 great (for this level) signings... Not sure what to make of it all tbh. If we do get these signings then we really are going for it next season, but it just seems unlike how we've done business so far under FV. I'm just confused, which some might say isn't unusual Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 8 hours ago, Stig said: It's just really weird isn't it. Usually we're silent about transfers and Iles is pretty good about not speculating, and then all of sudden he's saying we're getting 2 great (for this level) signings... Not sure what to make of it all tbh. If we do get these signings then we really are going for it next season, but it just seems unlike how we've done business so far under FV. I'm just confused, which some might say isn't unusual I've been wondering all the same things. Iles doesn't usually operate this and neither does the club. In whose interests does it serve? Far more than meets the eye. I'd be pleasantly surprised if we sign either of these players. Let's see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted July 17 Share Posted July 17 34 minutes ago, paulhanley said: I've been wondering all the same things. Iles doesn't usually operate this and neither does the club. In whose interests does it serve? Far more than meets the eye. I'd be pleasantly surprised if we sign either of these players. Let's see... I would be staggered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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