Wanderlust Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Dr. Feelgood said: If, however, we resume the interminable passing along the backline bollox again I may have to take to the pitch. Nothing in the preseason to suggest there will be a lot of that - although if the opposition sits deep and won't come out to play it's difficult to do anything else other than wait until there's a forward pass on. But the 3421 should provide more forward passing options if there is more movement so maybe it will be kept to a minimum. New system suggests we will be risking more on attacking in numbers which will make for more exciting games - and more nerve jangling when the opposition goes long down the sides and over the back line to capitalise on the spaces we leave. I like the "we'll score more goals than you" approach. BTW I don't think Schon offers any more than Williams defensively. We'll see. Edited August 2 by Wanderlust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroySwoosh Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 please stop quoting whitesince63, thankyou Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 11 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Aren't the wingers ment to be in the top of the 343? The 343 will be more like a 523 with 2 wingbacks. If we're using this formation we're swapping a CM & CF for two wingers? I’ve explained how I believe 3-4-3 differs from 5-3-2. To clarify, Cogley (as it stands) and Schon as the wide 2 of the 4, while the 3 up top would be, for example, Lolos - Charles - Collins. You seem to be saying 3-4-3 is exactly the same as 5-3-2. If I’ve misunderstood you, please correct me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 21 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Aren't the wingers ment to be in the top of the 343? The 343 will be more like a 523 with 2 wingbacks. If we're using this formation we're swapping a CM & CF for two wingers? I’ve explained how I believe 3-4-3 differs from 5-3-2. To clarify, Cogley (as it stands) and Schon as the wide 2 of the 4, while the 3 up top would be, for example, Lolos - Charles - Collins. You seem to be saying 3-4-3 is exactly the same as 5-3-2. If I’ve misunderstood you, please correct me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rival Son Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 Apologies for the double post. It’s late 🍻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted August 2 Share Posted August 2 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Rival Son said: I’ve explained how I believe 3-4-3 differs from 5-3-2. To clarify, Cogley (as it stands) and Schon as the wide 2 of the 4, while the 3 up top would be, for example, Lolos - Charles - Collins. You seem to be saying 3-4-3 is exactly the same as 5-3-2. If I’ve misunderstood you, please correct me. Exactly - wingers/wing backs on either side eg Tommo and Sheehan with 3 further forward. No point of having wingers crossing if there's nobody in the middle but a line of defenders. Very attacking but when out of possession it leaves only the winger to defend the flanks when required so Toal and Johnston and the middle two have to prepared to go out wider if the wing back is beaten or bypassed. Everyone else tracks back. Get Armstrong on the right and defences will shit the bed. Meanwhile, a bit of this... Edited August 2 by Wanderlust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nantwichwhite Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 Whatever system we play I hope there’s flexibility and is not rigid. I hate watching England playing the double pivot and just sticking to it come what may Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 11 hours ago, woolli said: On what basis? For me, we have all the tools required like we did last season. The only thing that stopped us was us. If we can conquer that bit there's no reason why we won't be up there punching. Despite our obvious failings we were a couple of points/90mins away from promotion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 3 Site Supporter Share Posted August 3 12 hours ago, woolli said: Before he signed for us, according to wiki, he was a winger, now hes purely a "footballer" The Evatt effect! Is their anyone apart from Cheese expecting automatic promotion? Serious question! When have I said I expect automatic promotion? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) I'd never heard of the Hungarian team we made our new signing from yesterday. Unsurprising to a large degree but usually there's at least a vague knowledge of some teams in each European country (existing or from previous times) from European competition (Hungary: Ferencvaros, Honved, Ujpest, Debrecen). Having looked up Fehervar FC today it turned up a nice footballing memory from the 80s. The club actually had a series of name changes a few years ago. Before that period they were known as Videoton - the team who knocked the rags out the UEFA Cup in 1985. That little episode provided a week or two of material to fire back at the multiple filth fans at school during a bleak period for us. Edited August 3 by paulhanley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 3 Members Share Posted August 3 He's apparently the first signing identified by Ludonautics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 10 hours ago, TroySwoosh said: please stop quoting whitesince63, thankyou Thank you Troy I wish they would it’s just insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 56 minutes ago, Cheese said: When have I said I expect automatic promotion? Ok, i would have " expected" you to say we will get automatic promotion, but if your not what are you expecting? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 10 minutes ago, woolli said: Ok, i would have " expected" you to say we will get automatic promotion, but if your not what are you expecting? What are you expecting old boy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted August 3 Site Supporter Share Posted August 3 11 minutes ago, woolli said: Ok, i would have " expected" you to say we will get automatic promotion, but if your not what are you expecting? I don't have any expectations. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 3 minutes ago, gonzo said: What are you expecting old boy? Hopefully top 6, dont think we have a cat in hells of top two, with the present squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 3 Site Supporter Share Posted August 3 20 hours ago, Whitesince63 said: Main problem for me is that none of those we’ve signed so far seem as good as what we already have and from the admittedly very little I’ve seen of him, the Hungarian included. I’m just not sure where they’ll play anyway and who they’ll replace. So far Southwood doesn’t look close to Baxter and Lolos looks average at best. Unless things change very quickly now I see us starting the season with much the same side as we finished it. When we were saved and languishing in league 2, had you ever heard of Santos, Dapo et al? Had you ever seen them play. Coming from obscurity, the shit gets. Evatt out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post kent_white Posted August 3 Popular Post Share Posted August 3 15 hours ago, woolli said: On what basis? On the basis that we've improved year on year - have better strength in depth - have a competent goalkeeping understudy - seemed to have adapted our game plan to give us more options - have some good players returning from injury - haven't finished our recruitment yet and will (hopefully) have a squad that are smarting from play off defeat. I would caveat this with the fact that I'm almost always wrong about everything to do with football so out your money on mid table obscurity 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted August 3 Moderators Share Posted August 3 15 hours ago, woolli said: Before he signed for us, according to wiki, he was a winger, now hes purely a "footballer" The Evatt effect! Is their anyone apart from Cheese expecting automatic promotion? Serious question! Yes and I've put decent money on it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadRunnerFan Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 (edited) 3 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: He's apparently the first signing identified by Ludonautics Interesting. Do you know if they have run the rule over the others even if they didn't identify them? Edited August 3 by RoadRunnerFan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
woolli Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 1 hour ago, Zico said: Yes and I've put decent money on it too Sincerely hope you win mate, then we are all happy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: When we were saved and languishing in league 2, had you ever heard of Santos, Dapo et al? Had you ever seen them play. Coming from obscurity, the shit gets. Evatt out. Why do you feel it necessary to twist what people say? If you disagree just say that. I said that I didn't think personally Lolos and Southwood would challenge what we have now and I stand by that. It’s not a criticism it’s a comment so why try and make it something else? I’m not saying both won’t turn out like Rico and Dapo, I hope they do so just chill. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 3 Site Supporter Share Posted August 3 33 minutes ago, Whitesince63 said: Why do you feel it necessary to twist what people say? If you disagree just say that. I said that I didn't think personally Lolos and Southwood would challenge what we have now and I stand by that. It’s not a criticism it’s a comment so why try and make it something else? I’m not saying both won’t turn out like Rico and Dapo, I hope they do so just chill. Twisted absolutely nothing. You claimed and still do that they aren't good enough, even though they haven't yet played a proper first team game. Yet in the same paragraph claim you're not saying they won't turn out like others have. Make your mind up! And maybe stop criticising players with no evidence. Shit like this is all over and without doubt some players will get to see it. So maybe think and chill before posting drivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 16 hours ago, Rival Son said: I’ve explained how I believe 3-4-3 differs from 5-3-2. To clarify, Cogley (as it stands) and Schon as the wide 2 of the 4, while the 3 up top would be, for example, Lolos - Charles - Collins. You seem to be saying 3-4-3 is exactly the same as 5-3-2. If I’ve misunderstood you, please correct me. Nah ... I said 343 could easily turn into 523 if we're playing with wingbacks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 3 Share Posted August 3 8 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Nah ... I said 343 could easily turn into 523 if we're playing with wingbacks And then 5-4-1 if we're under the cosh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.