Big E Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I criticise him for his vanishing acts during big games, being part of the shit losing mentality that saw us relegated twice and being that much of greedy cunt he nearly bankrupted the club by pricing himself out of sheff weds deal the same month we were being wound up by HMRC. That's the bit that gets me. He nearly let BWFC go to the wall despite having earnt a fortune from never playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 That's the bit that gets me. He nearly let BWFC go to the wall despite having earnt a fortune from never playing. Bit like Wheater then - and look at that turnaround despite only being 5% the player Davies is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTheRave Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Bit like Wheater then - and look at that turnaround despite only being 5% the player Davies is. Did Wheater turn down a move when we were desperate for money to keep the club going? As for the 5% the player Davies is comment....absolute bollocks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Bit like Wheater then - and look at that turnaround despite only being 5% the player Davies is. 100% more heart Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 100% more heart Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Did Wheater turn down a move when we were desperate for money to keep the club going? As for the 5% the player Davies is comment....absolute bollocks. No but he drew an equally substantial wage and had injury woes of his own. Wheater hasn't reached 150 games for us despite being here since 2011. 5% might have been harsh. I'd like to up that to 7.5%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyoneawalker Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I criticise him for his vanishing acts during big games, being part of the shit losing mentality that saw us relegated twice and being that much of greedy cunt he nearly bankrupted the club by pricing himself out of sheff weds deal the same month we were being wound up by HMRC. You could level that at wheater pratley spearing too - I'd forgot the sheff wed thing is that true then? I saw him and had a chat in pub after peterboro seemed to have no idea where he'd be looked a worried young man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 No but he drew an equally substantial wage and had injury woes of his own. Wheater hasn't reached 150 games for us despite being here since 2011. 5% might have been harsh. I'd like to up that to 7.5%. 146 from 2011 is similar. It's not the wage whilst injured it's the refusal to try and save the club from a problem. Which he could have. Zack clough was sent on his way for the good of the club. That's the kind of player I will always respect. Mark Davies is just a cunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTheRave Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Played 184 games for us in 7.5 seasons. Probably had 10 good games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 He clearly has talent but has wasted his career with us and a new deal of any sort is a big no for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter HomerJay Posted May 13, 2017 Author Site Supporter Share Posted May 13, 2017 146 from 2011 is similar. It's not the wage whilst injured it's the refusal to try and save the club from a problem. Which he could have. Zack clough was sent on his way for the good of the club. That's the kind of player I will always respect. Mark Davies is just a cunt. Didn't Clough reject Bristol city when we needed to sell? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Weren't we not that in need then. All the stories go when he was told we had no choice he went Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Did wheater not play for free a while back? We've been here with the mavies stuff before, but the lad is a waster. Not committed and a coward on the pitch. Natural talent means jack shit if you're not prepared to use it. Think back to games where we were crying out for a bit of quality, someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck, he vanished. He never has the balls to change a game. He's wasted his career being pissed, unfit, injured and a complete bottle merchant. Players like him are what nearly finished the club. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 (edited) Did wheater not play for free a while back? We've been here with the mavies stuff before, but the lad is a waster. Not committed and a coward on the pitch. Natural talent means jack shit if you're not prepared to use it. Think back to games where we were crying out for a bit of quality, someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck, he vanished. He never has the balls to change a game. He's wasted his career being pissed, unfit, injured and a complete bottle merchant. Players like him are what nearly finished the club. Wheater still picked up full wage but gave back his win bonus. Consensus seems to be that he pocketed £15k a week and gave up £2.5k. Not quite Robin Hood but better than nowt. Edited May 13, 2017 by Kane57 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 Thing is with wheater I've never doubted his commitment to the cause. He's just not good enough at any level higher than where we are at. I fear for him next season if I'm honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 13, 2017 Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2017 Didn't Clough reject Bristol city when we needed to sell? We accepted an offer but suspect his wages weren't an issue Davies knew we wanted him to go, sheff weds was a good move, they baulked at his demands, we then offered him for free to make up for his demands but it wasn't happening and he chose to stay Folk will claim thats his right to do so and they would be right It wouldn't have been so bad if he'd been playing to the best of his ability week in week out but he couldn't be arsed Whilst wheater was wavering his bonuses and all that at the end of last season, ie he got what was going on and did a decent thing which he didn't have to do Davies has had it very good out of us for several years with little in return, in the face of further winding up orders with what money we do have to play with it'd loathe me to offer him any sort of deal in the hope he might have a good game at some point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 We accepted an offer but suspect his wages weren't an issue Davies knew we wanted him to go, sheff weds was a good move, they baulked at his demands, we then offered him for free to make up for his demands but it wasn't happening and he chose to stay Folk will claim thats his right to do so and they would be right It wouldn't have been so bad if he'd been playing to the best of his ability week in week out but he couldn't be arsed Whilst wheater was wavering his bonuses and all that at the end of last season, ie he got what was going on and did a decent thing which he didn't have to do Davies has had it very good out of us for several years with little in return, in the face of further winding up orders with what money we do have to play with it'd loathe me to offer him any sort of deal in the hope he might have a good game at some point well put.. End of the day Davies wasn't working in some shitty job wondering about his financial future He could live on a considerably reduced wage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted May 13, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted May 13, 2017 Davies has to go. He's been a decent player in his day but he's had that many injuries we've seen the best of him. I'd be surprised if he comes back anything like decent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
onlyoneawalker Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I'm agree and said I wouldn't offer him a deal I just think the vast majority of his issues have been down to injury which is a shame for all concerned but it's time to move on and I hope he resurrects something of a career he's not a wrongun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 13, 2017 Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2017 Did wheater not play for free a while back? We've been here with the mavies stuff before, but the lad is a waster. Not committed and a coward on the pitch. Natural talent means jack shit if you're not prepared to use it. Think back to games where we were crying out for a bit of quality, someone to take the game by the scruff of the neck, he vanished. He never has the balls to change a game. He's wasted his career being pissed, unfit, injured and a complete bottle merchant. Players like him are what nearly finished the club. lets say mark davies is suffering, quietly, from depression do you then review those comments and think youre being more than a little harsh? just a question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 13, 2017 Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2017 I'd be surprised if he comes back anything like decent that is my only reason for being happy to see the back of him much of the rest is emotional groundless ranting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 lets say mark davies is suffering, quietly, from depression do you then review those comments and think youre being more than a little harsh? just a question What's he got to be depressed about he's on £20k a week Seriously though, as a fan and professional moaner I can only act on the information provided. I.e. His performances and comments from people within the club during his time suggest he's in it for himself. Injuries aside. If he's got issues then I'll support him all the way. Doesn't alter the fact he's creamed the best of a decade out of the club very little in return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 13, 2017 Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2017 lets say mark davies is suffering, quietly, from depression do you then review those comments and think youre being more than a little harsh? just a question I know mental health awareness is on the up but are we now having to consider that when judging the performances and attitude of a player over a prolonged period of time? Until we know otherwise let's say he's not Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted May 13, 2017 Moderators Share Posted May 13, 2017 not just any player one who keeps getting fit and keeps getting injured its not a massive leap to think it would mess you up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted May 13, 2017 Share Posted May 13, 2017 I don't think anybody will be overly upset if Davies moves on, except Garrp who reckons we should offer him another 12 month deal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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