Ghana White Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 Bloke on Twitter who does the safe standing road shows says there's a big announcement coming at 8 tommorrow. Hopefully the trial has been given the go ahead for west Brom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I'd love it at the macron but think i prefer sitting down nowadays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted June 26, 2017 Share Posted June 26, 2017 I'd move over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted June 27, 2017 Moderators Share Posted June 27, 2017 Shrewsbury first club to have safe standing in EFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted June 27, 2017 Members Share Posted June 27, 2017 Shrewsbury first club to have safe standing in EFL Â Â There's only 37 of em turn up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Con Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Nice quote from Shrewsbury Chief executive on BBC website : Â Â The issue we tend to have is when we come up against the big clubs - the Sheffield Uniteds, the Boltons - who bring huge away crowds, we get drowned out a little bit," he said. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famouswanderer Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 This is ace. would love it at the macron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 North lower or east lower though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 North lower or east lower though? Â I'm sure they would stick it behind both goals first, if given the option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 27, 2017 Site Supporter Share Posted June 27, 2017 Not sure it would happen though- increased numbers would mean more piss stones and exits etc to comply with regulations. Â Would be good to see though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Not sure it would happen though- increased numbers would mean more piss stones and exits etc to comply with regulations. Would be good to see though. There wouldn't be increased numbers as every safe standing place has a seat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 There wouldn't be increased numbers as every safe standing place has a seat.That's how I'd see it working over here, however the German ones do have a larger capacity when it's set to standing mode so presumably just go where they want. I'd quite miss the luxury of having my spot waiting for me at 2.59pm to be honest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Not sure it would happen though- increased numbers would mean more piss stones and exits etc to comply with regulations. Â Would be good to see though. It doesn't increase capacity. You have a chair at every position Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big E Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 That's how I'd see it working over here, however the German ones do have a larger capacity when it's set to standing mode so presumably just go where they want. I'd quite miss the luxury of having my spot waiting for me at 2.59pm to be honest. Is it not seating games are reduced in Europe ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted June 27, 2017 Share Posted June 27, 2017 Yeah it's in seating mode for non-domestic games so one person per seat and hence the lower capacity. When in standing mode they can presumably get an extra person or two in each row which obviously increases capacity quite significantly in cases like Dortmund. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatanGreavsie Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Yeah it's in seating mode for non-domestic games so one person per seat and hence the lower capacity. When in standing mode they can presumably get an extra person or two in each row which obviously increases capacity quite significantly in cases like Dortmund. I seem to remember that Celtic's trial is with a ratio of 1:1.1, so you bung up the capacity of a section by 10%. In Germany I believe it varies from 1.4 to 1.6 with 1.8 the legal max. Implies that if you changed over the ESL - and assuming it holds 5k, you'd be looking at 2-3k extra (assuming all the general set up for exits etc allowed it). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 If successful, do we know how long until it could be rolled out to other clubs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Ok, most German Terraces are not 'Safe Standing' as we know it. They are not rail seats. They a simply normal Terraces with a 4-6 steps between crush (lean) barriers. Thats why the capacities are higher. As you can see in the photoes above, on a rail seat terrace you stand two every other step. On a real terrace you have people stood on every step. In my opinion I see very little advantage to rail seats. We have an unofficial standing area anyway and rail seat areas are very similar.We want real terraces not this...... surely. I guess it's a step in the right direction though.Btw is the guy you speak of Jon darch?? Nice bloke. Big Union fan. See him often Edited June 28, 2017 by SimonT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) And here is the terrace at Dortmund. As you can see again. Not rail seats. We are not getting terracing like they have in Germany....... Not really.........And to really confuse matters. Read this.http://www.fsf.org.uk/campaigns/safe-standing/the-legalities-of-standing/Atm we have a standing area in the corner. Idealy the removal of the seats would be great. The installation of rail seats does not really make any difference whatsoever.If you wish to stand at a Bolton game, just get a ticket for under the screen. the more that do it, the bigger the area becomes. Simples. Edited June 28, 2017 by SimonT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017       We want real terraces not this...... surely. I guess it's a step in the right direction though.    "Real" Terraces are never coming back, and nor should they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 (edited) Nonsense! Are they not real terraces they have in germany? No problems there. Did terracing cause the Hillbrough Disaster. No. Poor policing, overcrowding etc did.I go to Germany all the time to watch football in normal terraces with no issues. Its amazing what you can do by making games all ticket, using sufficient crowd control and adequate policing.If you dont have a ticket, you dont get in. Simple.Sorry sweep but that post Hillbrough view is very outdated these days, has been shown to be wrong and to the detriment of football.......Dont they have terraces in Rugby?......Dont remember there being a crowd disaster in that game. Its 2017 not the 1980's. Edited June 28, 2017 by SimonT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 I seem to remember that Celtic's trial is with a ratio of 1:1.1, so you bung up the capacity of a section by 10%. In Germany I believe it varies from 1.4 to 1.6 with 1.8 the legal max. Implies that if you changed over the ESL - and assuming it holds 5k, you'd be looking at 2-3k extra (assuming all the general set up for exits etc allowed it). Â So we could create an extra 14,000 empty spaces? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 With the way the steps are at the macron the rail seats option is probably the best way forward. Â There are 2(?) steps for every row of seating giving the decent legroom that we get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonT Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Or we could just leave it and stand anyway......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted June 28, 2017 Share Posted June 28, 2017 Or we could just leave it and stand anyway......... If the club was to bring in a legal standing area then surely the'd have to install facilities to allow it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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