BobyBrno Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Ani said: But our GDP is nt 5.2% we are not. I know. I was replying to the quoted post about our gdp being 5.2% lower in 2021 because of Brexit. I then thought it 5.2% of growth. 🤷♂️ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, fatolive said: Or Kathy come home. you had a kitchen like this, but you could shave in it and then go and see Roy Orbison on Crompton way for 3d so you know, swings and roundabouts, I’ve got fancy heated tile bathroom that’s inside the house but the bees knees is now a happy shopper so I’m torn as to which is best bUt WE weRe HApPiEr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 30 minutes ago, Spider said: bUt WE weRe HApPiEr With my winklepickers I'd not have much turning room in that kitchen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 https://www.ft.com/content/e39d0315-fd5b-47c8-8560-04bb786f2c13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 Bbc and the FT portraying things from a particular view point. Who'd have thought. The obr, with its notorious inaccuracies producing an estimate report that is selectively picked from. Strange that there is no mention of April's ONS facts with exports to the EU at their highest ever level. Weird one. Naturally a bit of a drop off since as inflationary pressures have increased, but far from the picture painted. These pressures felt the world over and we know why although the truth doesn't fit the narrative of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 9 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Bbc and the FT portraying things from a particular view point. Who'd have thought. The obr, with its notorious inaccuracies producing an estimate report that is selectively picked from. Strange that there is no mention of April's ONS facts with exports to the EU at their highest ever level. Weird one. Naturally a bit of a drop off since as inflationary pressures have increased, but far from the picture painted. These pressures felt the world over and we know why although the truth doesn't fit the narrative of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Bbc and the FT portraying things from a particular view point. Who'd have thought. The obr, with its notorious inaccuracies producing an estimate report that is selectively picked from. Strange that there is no mention of April's ONS facts with exports to the EU at their highest ever level. Weird one. Naturally a bit of a drop off since as inflationary pressures have increased, but far from the picture painted. These pressures felt the world over and we know why although the truth doesn't fit the narrative of course. Particular meaning one you chose to ignore? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 38 minutes ago, gonzo said: Particular meaning one you chose to ignore? You can take a horse to water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 30, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 30, 2022 45 minutes ago, Farrelli said: You can take a horse to water He clearly didn't read the article. Just dismissed it because of the headline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted November 30, 2022 Share Posted November 30, 2022 This is fucked up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted December 1, 2022 Members Share Posted December 1, 2022 Sleepy Joe can pick 'em............ https://nypost.com/2022/11/28/non-binary-biden-nuclear-official-charged-with-stealing-womans-luggage-at-airport/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, mickbrown said: This is fucked up More worrying is that the UK currently has 6 functioning nuclear power plants - owned and operated by the French state aka Electricite de France aka EDF. There were 7 last year until EDF decided to decommission Hinkley Point B "for safety reasons". All the UKs power plants are reaching end of life. And our government has just given EDF the contract for Sizewell C, and they're favourites to get Hinkley C plus the potential joint venture with CGN (Chinese) for Bradwell B. Then there's the energy providers: Eon (German) N Power (also German) Scottish Power (Spanish) etc etc As for the train operators : Arriva Wales, Chiltern Railways, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern Rail - all German owned Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express - all French owned Greater Anglia, Stansted Express and Scotrail - all Dutch owned West Midland Rail and London Rail are owned by a Dutch / Japanese JV The irony is that whilst Thatcher went all in on selling off or franchising our national assets to private companies including our oil and gas, the foreign companies that operate and profit from them are mainly nationalised in their countries of origin e.g. EDF that owns and operates our nuclear plants is 83% owned by the French State - which is why the French Government faced with the recent massive hike in fuel prices were able to cap household fuel cost rises at 4% - and which as a result has kept inflation in France at a much lower level than we are experiencing in the UK - and making French businesses far more competitive than ours. Edited December 1, 2022 by Wanderlust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 28 minutes ago, Wanderlust said: More worrying is that the UK currently has 6 functioning nuclear power plants - owned and operated by the French state aka Electricite de France aka EDF. There were 7 last year until EDF decided to decommission Hinkley Point B "for safety reasons". All the UKs power plants are reaching end of life. And our government has just given EDF the contract for Sizewell C, and they're favourites to get Hinkley C plus the potential joint venture with CGN (Chinese) for Bradwell B. Then there's the energy providers: Eon (German) N Power (also German) Scottish Power (Spanish) etc etc As for the train operators : Arriva Wales, Chiltern Railways, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern Rail - all German owned Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express - all French owned Greater Anglia, Stansted Express and Scotrail - all Dutch owned West Midland Rail and London Rail are owned by a Dutch / Japanese JV The irony is that whilst Thatcher went all in on selling off or franchising our national assets to private companies including our oil and gas, the foreign companies that operate and profit from them are mainly nationalised in their countries of origin e.g. EDF that owns and operates our nuclear plants is 83% owned by the French State - which is why the French Government faced with the recent massive hike in fuel prices were able to cap household fuel cost rises at 4% - and which as a result has kept inflation in France at a much lower level than we are experiencing in the UK - and making French businesses far more competitive than ours. Nobody cares. Apparently some people won, whatever that means. The rest of us just carry on working and being nice to people. But, we will be vociferous in the shit we've been landed in. Although we do have the best tunes... (We don't care about socks) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Wanderlust said: More worrying is that the UK currently has 6 functioning nuclear power plants - owned and operated by the French state aka Electricite de France aka EDF. There were 7 last year until EDF decided to decommission Hinkley Point B "for safety reasons". All the UKs power plants are reaching end of life. And our government has just given EDF the contract for Sizewell C, and they're favourites to get Hinkley C plus the potential joint venture with CGN (Chinese) for Bradwell B. Then there's the energy providers: Eon (German) N Power (also German) Scottish Power (Spanish) etc etc As for the train operators : Arriva Wales, Chiltern Railways, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern Rail - all German owned Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express - all French owned Greater Anglia, Stansted Express and Scotrail - all Dutch owned West Midland Rail and London Rail are owned by a Dutch / Japanese JV The irony is that whilst Thatcher went all in on selling off or franchising our national assets to private companies including our oil and gas, the foreign companies that operate and profit from them are mainly nationalised in their countries of origin e.g. EDF that owns and operates our nuclear plants is 83% owned by the French State - which is why the French Government faced with the recent massive hike in fuel prices were able to cap household fuel cost rises at 4% - and which as a result has kept inflation in France at a much lower level than we are experiencing in the UK - and making French businesses far more competitive than ours. Taking back control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 5 hours ago, Wanderlust said: More worrying is that the UK currently has 6 functioning nuclear power plants - owned and operated by the French state aka Electricite de France aka EDF. There were 7 last year until EDF decided to decommission Hinkley Point B "for safety reasons". All the UKs power plants are reaching end of life. And our government has just given EDF the contract for Sizewell C, and they're favourites to get Hinkley C plus the potential joint venture with CGN (Chinese) for Bradwell B. Then there's the energy providers: Eon (German) N Power (also German) Scottish Power (Spanish) etc etc As for the train operators : Arriva Wales, Chiltern Railways, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern Rail - all German owned Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express - all French owned Greater Anglia, Stansted Express and Scotrail - all Dutch owned West Midland Rail and London Rail are owned by a Dutch / Japanese JV The irony is that whilst Thatcher went all in on selling off or franchising our national assets to private companies including our oil and gas, the foreign companies that operate and profit from them are mainly nationalised in their countries of origin e.g. EDF that owns and operates our nuclear plants is 83% owned by the French State - which is why the French Government faced with the recent massive hike in fuel prices were able to cap household fuel cost rises at 4% - and which as a result has kept inflation in France at a much lower level than we are experiencing in the UK - and making French businesses far more competitive than ours. Yeah but we beat the zulus with only 8 men and some knuckledusters. We once owned half the world and we’re the best around at remembering it all really well. Its ok for forriners to own all our utilities, but even a single one of them sets foot on our beaches (which we nearly fought ze Germans on) then all hell breaks loose. We control our own destiny so long as we ask Le président first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 Sizewell C is madness. Rolls Royce can easily adapt the power plants used in Nuclear subs to be used for commercial power and tagged onto grid near existing gas power sites. Just needs you soft bar stewards being prepared to have one on your doorstep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: Nobody cares. Apparently some people won, whatever that means. The rest of us just carry on working and being nice to people. But, we will be vociferous in the shit we've been landed in. Although we do have the best tunes... (We don't care about socks) 1 hour ago, gonzo said: Taking back control. Just to clarify it has nothing to do with Brexit. Edited December 1, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Wanderlust said: More worrying is that the UK currently has 6 functioning nuclear power plants - owned and operated by the French state aka Electricite de France aka EDF. There were 7 last year until EDF decided to decommission Hinkley Point B "for safety reasons". All the UKs power plants are reaching end of life. And our government has just given EDF the contract for Sizewell C, and they're favourites to get Hinkley C plus the potential joint venture with CGN (Chinese) for Bradwell B. Then there's the energy providers: Eon (German) N Power (also German) Scottish Power (Spanish) etc etc As for the train operators : Arriva Wales, Chiltern Railways, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern Rail - all German owned Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express - all French owned Greater Anglia, Stansted Express and Scotrail - all Dutch owned West Midland Rail and London Rail are owned by a Dutch / Japanese JV The irony is that whilst Thatcher went all in on selling off or franchising our national assets to private companies including our oil and gas, the foreign companies that operate and profit from them are mainly nationalised in their countries of origin e.g. EDF that owns and operates our nuclear plants is 83% owned by the French State - which is why the French Government faced with the recent massive hike in fuel prices were able to cap household fuel cost rises at 4% - and which as a result has kept inflation in France at a much lower level than we are experiencing in the UK - and making French businesses far more competitive than ours. It’s a disgraceful stain that we have allowed this to happen, hopefully the Labour Party can reverse the balance and bring at least some of this back into UK and at least part UK government ownership. Lastly the French have subsidised energy costs to help business and domestic users but this has come at a great cost and will have to be paid back by French tax payers who already pay higher taxes than UK tax payers. Edited December 1, 2022 by Mounts Kipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 7 hours ago, Wanderlust said: More worrying is that the UK currently has 6 functioning nuclear power plants - owned and operated by the French state aka Electricite de France aka EDF. There were 7 last year until EDF decided to decommission Hinkley Point B "for safety reasons". All the UKs power plants are reaching end of life. And our government has just given EDF the contract for Sizewell C, and they're favourites to get Hinkley C plus the potential joint venture with CGN (Chinese) for Bradwell B. Then there's the energy providers: Eon (German) N Power (also German) Scottish Power (Spanish) etc etc As for the train operators : Arriva Wales, Chiltern Railways, Cross Country, Grand Central and Northern Rail - all German owned Thameslink, Southern, South Eastern, Great Northern and Gatwick Express - all French owned Greater Anglia, Stansted Express and Scotrail - all Dutch owned West Midland Rail and London Rail are owned by a Dutch / Japanese JV The irony is that whilst Thatcher went all in on selling off or franchising our national assets to private companies including our oil and gas, the foreign companies that operate and profit from them are mainly nationalised in their countries of origin e.g. EDF that owns and operates our nuclear plants is 83% owned by the French State - which is why the French Government faced with the recent massive hike in fuel prices were able to cap household fuel cost rises at 4% - and which as a result has kept inflation in France at a much lower level than we are experiencing in the UK - and making French businesses far more competitive than ours. Yep. Fucked up. As an aside subsidise foreign nationally owned railway fares by paying sky high fares for frankly shit services. Then look at the Post Office sell off. Bent as fuck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 23 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Just to clarify it has nothing to do with Brexit. Correct it doesn't. It's all to do with that lot being a bunch of cunts. They know the price of everything and the value of fuck all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Correct it doesn't. It's all to do with that lot being a bunch of cunts. They know the price of everything and the value of fuck all. I have to wholeheartedly agree, let’s hope that the Labour Party make a start and to attempt to correct and rebalance the ownership of these assets, I’ve no issue even if they are part state part privately owned. This Tory government are on borrowed time and deserve a lengthy spell on the sidelines… oh and a few court cases to uncover any corrupt behaviour while in power also would not go amiss. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 33 minutes ago, mickbrown said: Yep. Fucked up. As an aside subsidise foreign nationally owned railway fares by paying sky high fares for frankly shit services. Then look at the Post Office sell off. Bent as fuck. Yeah it totally is a mess. However, in a completely selfish way Thameslink is bloody fantastic and I can get a train every 15 minutes from our house in Zone 4, wizz around London all day to whatever zone and never pay more than a 11 quid. Fab. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Carlos Posted December 1, 2022 Moderators Share Posted December 1, 2022 Can anyone explain how the Royal Mail have 100,000 employees? For what? I've not posted anything since before the pandemic. All they deliver here is shit leaflets. By the sounds of it, most are on over £50k. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted December 1, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Carlos said: Can anyone explain how the Royal Mail have 100,000 employees? For what? I've not posted anything since before the pandemic. All they deliver here is shit leaflets. By the sounds of it, most are on over £50k. Very few Royal Mail employees will be anywhere near 50k. Where do you get "most" from? https://uk.indeed.com/cmp/Royal-Mail/salaries Edited December 1, 2022 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted December 1, 2022 Share Posted December 1, 2022 3 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: Just to clarify it has nothing to do with Brexit. But everything to do with the people Brexit gave power to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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