Sweep Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 11 hours ago, Casino said: I thought the big issue with getting folk out of hospital was lack of beds Turns out, there are 360k vacancies in the care sector Loads of , bed capacity, no staff Any ideas why? We can just make our own lazy/workshy fill those positions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
green genie Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 hour ago, MickyD said: Minimum wage for wiping old folks’ arses would be a good place to start, I’d imagine. There are lots of private nursing homes around. I wonder if the actual owners are low-paid as well. The ones that rely on state funding for inmates are apparently struggling as rate per bed not matching costs of heating and food. Average costs per month are £3500 with nursing and £2800 without Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted January 13, 2023 Moderators Share Posted January 13, 2023 i genuinely dont understand the train strikes what has it got to do with the govt i thought they were private companies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 38 minutes ago, Casino said: i genuinely dont understand the train strikes what has it got to do with the govt i thought they were private companies Don't think it's as straight forward as that Doesn't the govt set how much they can increase fares by? If they were totally private then they could charge what they want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 19 hours ago, Cheese said: Execution is far and away from "the only answer". Maybe not the only answer but in my opinion the best option Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: Maybe not the only answer but in my opinion the best option So, you're pretty much on-side with the Taliban culture then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 I don't care who's culture it is, anybody caught assisting a terrorist group to kill innocent people should be executed, in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: So, you're pretty much on-side with the Taliban culture then. Pretty sure many countries have death penalties which are nothing to do with Taliban culture. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 Just now, athywhite1958 said: I don't care who's culture it is, anybody caught assisting a terrorist group to kill innocent people should be executed, in my opinion But as has been mentioned previously, she was 15 - prime age for grooming. How is one 15 year old "old enough to know what she was doing", but another 15 year old is "too young to know what she was doing"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: I don't care who's culture it is, anybody caught assisting a terrorist group to kill innocent people should be executed, in my opinion Nah, let them rot in prison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, royal white said: Pretty sure many countries have death penalties which are nothing to do with Taliban culture. Pretty sure you're correct. Would you want to live in one of those countries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: I don't care who's culture it is, anybody caught assisting a terrorist group to kill innocent people should be executed, in my opinion They are I thought that’s what our army was doing in Afghanistan? But I thought they could only kill folk they knew for certain we’re planning actual attacks? Not sure living with the Taliban counts, otherwise you’re suggesting we kill ALL talibanis, which is sorta kinda genocide I think maybe possibly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Pretty sure you're correct. Would you want to live in one of those countries? I wouldn’t mind living in America (for a short time anyway) if I’m honest, Dubai not so much but if push came to shove or a good offer of work came up then yes I’d go. I wouldn’t go to one of those countries and commit crimes though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: But as has been mentioned previously, she was 15 - prime age for grooming. How is one 15 year old "old enough to know what she was doing", but another 15 year old is "too young to know what she was doing"? I do not believe she was groomed, I think she was a headstrong 15 year old girl who knew exactly what she was doing, a kind of Mata Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, athywhite1958 said: I do not believe she was groomed, I think she was a headstrong 15 year old girl who knew exactly what she was doing, a kind of Mata Hari What you "believe" or "think" is irrelevant. And in this case, you're saying someone should be executed based on your 'thoughts' of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted January 13, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted January 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: I do not believe she was groomed, I think she was a headstrong 15 year old girl who knew exactly what she was doing, a kind of Mata Hari Based on what? I hate to sound like I’m pulling your argument apart, but grooming is a thing that exists for young girls of all backgrounds. It’s not just Rochdale… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: I do not believe she was groomed, I think she was a headstrong 15 year old girl who knew exactly what she was doing, a kind of Mata Hari Nobody knows what they are doing at 15. Think back to when you were 15. I knew fuck all about anything at 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobbypond Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, royal white said: I wouldn’t mind living in America (for a short time anyway) if I’m honest, Dubai not so much but if push came to shove or a good offer of work came up then yes I’d go. I wouldn’t go to one of those countries and commit crimes though. Not even a school shooting? You'd want to immerse yourself in the full American experience. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 1 minute ago, Spider said: Based on what? I hate to sound like I’m pulling your argument apart, but grooming is a thing that exists for young girls of all backgrounds. It’s not just Rochdale… Bit of a difference from being told you’re joining a terrorist organisation online which will result in the deaths of innocent people and being offered drink and drugs by dirty old men. I think the majority on here would of had a dabble with alcohol at 15, I doubt many were planning on joining the IRA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobbypond Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Spider said: Based on what? I hate to sound like I’m pulling your argument apart, but grooming is a thing that exists for young girls of all backgrounds. It’s not just Rochdale… I think he's doing a good enough job himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 BASED ON MY PERSONAL OPINION WHICH I AM ENTITLED TO. Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 30 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: I don't care who's culture it is, anybody caught assisting a terrorist group to kill innocent people should be executed, in my opinion How did she assist them? I thought she got married to one. It's not like she was out setting bombs off was she? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, mickbrown said: How did she assist them? I thought she got married to one. It's not like she was out setting bombs off was she? She joined ISIS, if cooking a meal before ISIS went out on a killing spree is all she did then it’s assisting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, mickbrown said: How did she assist them? I thought she got married to one. It's not like she was out setting bombs off was she? She was making their tea. Cut and dried death sentence, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 15 minutes ago, royal white said: She joined ISIS, if cooking a meal before ISIS went out on a killing spree is all she did then it’s assisting. Well using that logic half of Belfast need executing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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