DazBob Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Nothing to do with freedom of speech. He hasn't been banned from twitter. He's been told to behave in a manner that other bbc employees/contactors have to. Fucks sake, there are hundreds of thousands of folk who are bound by conditions of employment over what they say. My wife being one of them. If she went on such a tirade, she could well be sacked, and not suspended or whatever Lineker's situation is. He can say whatever the fuck he wants- just remove himself from the bbc which has its charter and includes impartiality restrictions. Other bbc employees have also been "removed" for breaching their contract in a similar way, and lineker is no different. It's quite simple: if you don't want to be bound by such agreements, don't work for an organisation that has them. Though no doubt a few million per year might sway the moral compass. Lineker isn't a BBC employee is he? Anyway, regardless, the BBC have scored a massive own goal on this. Edited March 10, 2023 by DazBob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, DazBob said: Where is the whataboutery? This is the second time you've said this, but I don't think I've seen a post where someone in support of Lineker has said, "Yeah, but what about..?" 🤦🏻🤦🏻 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 hour ago, Winchester White said: Clarkson wrote an article that was in poor taste but he shouldn't have been pilloried they way he was. It was stupid and he should have apologised properly (he didnt) and then that should have been the end of it. Different to Lineker imo. What should Clarkson have done diffraction by means of apology? He wrote to them with a heartfelt apology. Probably shouldn't have, but that's his decision. They then rejected it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 25 minutes ago, gonzo said: Woke, cancel cuture, freedom of speech. Fuck me this is meat and drink normally for the GB news gimps. Boots on the other foot now and it's nah theres nothing to see here. Hypocrites to a man. Have a like nicely put. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, royal white said: 🤦🏻🤦🏻 I must have missed them. If so, apologies. Please point out these whataboutery posts to me. Ta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 He knew the rules https://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/article/1745016/what-does-the-bbcs-social-media-crackdown-mean-for-other-employers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, DazBob said: Lineker isn't a BBC employee is he? Anyway, regardless, the BBC have scored a massive own goal on this. No, I've explained it above though. Apparently, even those in his position can still be covered by their restrictions. I've written about a presenter that was in this position and left, for the very reason as to be able to give her views. As for the "own goal", lineker has form and has consistently got away with it. Others that have been removed may have been looking and thinking about "unfair dismissal" or some such. He cannot be bigger than the bbc itself, and as was spoken about on the TV, may have been bringing the organisation into disrepute. It is also the case that he hasn't been sacked or had his contract terminated. He'll be back, after his "discussions" and maybe a public apology, unless he decides to go elsewhere. Though its doubtful the money will be as good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 13 minutes ago, DazBob said: Anyway, regardless, the BBC have scored a massive own goal on this. See what you did there. If it’s a question of keeping to the rules then the whataboutery is absolutely relevant when it comes to even what the political correspondents can tweet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 I’ll leave this here. He should drop the mic at the end, really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 (edited) 37 minutes ago, royal white said: 😂😂 there’s no excuse, if he’s broke the rules then he’s gone if he’s not then time to speak to his lawyers. Bit of whataboutery as we all like that. What’s the line for freedom of speech? How many times have we seen on social media, especially Twitter, someone make a fool of themselves and say something they probably didn’t mean. Within minutes, again left and right, the person who fucked up has his employers name plastered all over social media. Now this isn’t the face of the BBC we are taking about, this is little Johnny who works for a plumbing firm. Johnny is sacked before he wakes up from his drunken slumber. So where’s the line? (Im sure the BBC have one) There were no set rules, it was an impartiality rule with no line drawn (your link above is evidence of this). They've decided he crossed it for voicing an opinion off air, in his own time. He's a sports pundit ffs - I can understand if he's interviewing politicians right, left and centre. It's blatantly obvious that they've fucked up here and should have allowed him an opinion. Even Jeremy Fucking Clarkson has acknowledged it and defended him. It's honestly pure gold hearing yourself and TMJ defend the decision. I've no idea what you're rambling on about regarding Johnny the plumber? You've lost me mate. I was under the impression the only plumbers we had left were Albanian anyhow. Edited March 10, 2023 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 4 minutes ago, royal white said: He knew the rules https://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/article/1745016/what-does-the-bbcs-social-media-crackdown-mean-for-other-employers In one. As I said previously, it's an employment issue, and when he told journalists he stuck by his comments, and that he would be presenting the show on Saturday, he effectively lay down a direct challenge to his employer's authority. He's put them in a very difficult position through repeated "breaches". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Gammons showing themselves up here. Big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 7 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I’ll leave this here. He should drop the mic at the end, really. Aye, bang on. We are being governed by corrupt hypocritical scumbags. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, DazBob said: Gammons showing themselves up here. Big time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, DazBob said: Gammons showing themselves up here. Big time. I'm genuinely amazed 🤣 They're still bouncing off each other above. The same people who I've seen countless times criticise cancel culture (and rightly so). The Sky News clip nails it in one - well worth the watch. Chairman donations to a political party are allowed, criticism of Qatar's human rights are allowed, but this isn't? The mind boggles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: I’ll leave this here. He should drop the mic at the end, really. He's right, it should apply to all. This is an issue with the way in which the top brass are appointed. It's not just the current government that appoints folk "in their image" neither- that's where the report above is incomplete- it's a normal occurrence. https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/news/blairs-buddy-appointed-chairman-of-bbc/9670 He later resigned following the Hutton report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, London Wanderer said: I'm genuinely amazed 🤣 They're still bouncing off each other above. The same people who I've seen countless times criticise cancel culture (and rightly so). The Sky News clip nails it in one - well worth the watch. Chairman donations to a political party are allowed, criticism of Qatar's human rights are allowed, but this isn't? The mind boggles. Another one. Do some research- I've even helped you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 16 minutes ago, royal white said: He knew the rules https://www.peoplemanagement.co.uk/article/1745016/what-does-the-bbcs-social-media-crackdown-mean-for-other-employers He thinks he’s above the rules though. He ain’t. Well done BBC. Get rid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Another one. Do some research- I've even helped you. Even Piers Morgan agrees 😆 Keep digging Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, captainmed said: He thinks he’s above the rules though. He ain’t. Well done BBC. Get rid. Watch that video above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, captainmed said: He thinks he’s above the rules though. He ain’t. Well done BBC. Get rid. Therein is the issue. CR7 was fucked off for the same thing, and everyone agreed it was a positive move. However when this mon cops for it, its gammon this, free speech that. It's really quite easy to get a fuller picture, but it's not the done thing- just screech loudly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 6 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: He's right, it should apply to all. This is an issue with the way in which the top brass are appointed. It's not just the current government that appoints folk "in their image" neither- that's where the report above is incomplete- it's a normal occurrence. https://www.warc.com/newsandopinion/news/blairs-buddy-appointed-chairman-of-bbc/9670 He later resigned following the Hutton report. This is nothing to do with any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 Just now, Tonge moor green jacket said: Therein is the issue. CR7 was fucked off for the same thing, and everyone agreed it was a positive move. However when this mon cops for it, its gammon this, free speech that. It's really quite easy to get a fuller picture, but it's not the done thing- just screech loudly. This is nothing to do with any of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted March 10, 2023 1 minute ago, London Wanderer said: Even Piers Morgan agrees 😆 Keep digging What the fuck does that even mean? I know it's been a while since Blair was in office, but try a read, and you might understand. It's the norm, perhaps wrongly so, but not a one party issue. Whether or not you like to portray it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted March 10, 2023 Share Posted March 10, 2023 They’ve been facing disciplinary action for years for social media posts. Why should he be different? https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/jobs/9703983/BBC-sacks-two-workers-for-misusing-Twitter.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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