MalcolmW Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 16 hours ago, royal white said: Listen to this especially from 10 mins onwards. To think this nutter was a serving MP up until last week. He still is a serving MP! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted May 9, 2023 Share Posted May 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, MalcolmW said: He still is a serving MP! The guys a nut job….his Twitter is good for its comedy value though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 9, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 9, 2023 Some of his stuff about the vaccine situation is well over the top. When it comes to helping those who have been harmed by them though, he has a point- I do feel the compensation offered is a bit low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted May 10, 2023 Members Share Posted May 10, 2023 7 hours ago, globaldiver said: Get them voted out now! Disgraceful that we aren't number one! We should be way further ahead of the two mainstays of the EU! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 13 hours ago, globaldiver said: That number is, as you probably know, skewed. “Growth” will always look good when you consider the plunge we had was much bigger than those around us. for example: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 1 minute ago, Spider said: That number is, as you probably know, skewed. “Growth” will always look good when you consider the plunge we had was much bigger than those around us. for example: Don’t we measure GDP differently anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 Just now, globaldiver said: Don’t we measure GDP differently anyway? Which would make comparisons pointless. Measure an economy in food banks and millionaires. Then decide how well we’re doing as a whole. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globaldiver Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 2 minutes ago, Spider said: Which would make comparisons pointless. Measure an economy in food banks and millionaires. Then decide how well we’re doing as a whole. Aye, that would be pretty stupid, I agree. https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/02/01/minding-the-gap-why-has-uk-gdp-fallen-so-sharply-in-the-pandemic/amp/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Aye, that would be pretty stupid, I agree. https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/02/01/minding-the-gap-why-has-uk-gdp-fallen-so-sharply-in-the-pandemic/amp/ Which means the “rise” in gdp, by the alternative metrics, wouldn’t be so big. Ouroboros Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 9 minutes ago, globaldiver said: Aye, that would be pretty stupid, I agree. https://blog.ons.gov.uk/2021/02/01/minding-the-gap-why-has-uk-gdp-fallen-so-sharply-in-the-pandemic/amp/ Or to look at it another way The public sector is propping up our figures? Need you to come out of retirement and put your shoulder to the wheel again 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 10, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 10, 2023 22 hours ago, globaldiver said: I don't get it if 2010 = 100 and I assume they mean the year what is 105, 110, 115 etc and if it's not the year, I'll ask the same question 100 what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 Think this is a sensible call. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65546319 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 31 minutes ago, Zico said: I don't get it if 2010 = 100 and I assume they mean the year what is 105, 110, 115 etc and if it's not the year, I'll ask the same question 100 what? I assumed percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted May 10, 2023 Moderators Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I assumed percent. Ah ok, so 2010 was the baseline of 100% So have we grown by 21% or 121%? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 5 minutes ago, Zico said: Ah ok, so 2010 was the baseline of 100% So have we grown by 21% or 121%? They could use 0 Then say 21% Odd that they didn’t, wouldn’t you say? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 46 minutes ago, Zico said: I don't get it if 2010 = 100 and I assume they mean the year what is 105, 110, 115 etc and if it's not the year, I'll ask the same question 100 what? If you do a google image search for that specific graph, the only source is a Conservative MP called Anthony Browne who posted it on twitter. It literally doesn't appear anywhere else. Happy to be corrected by @globaldiver if he wants to point us in the right direction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: If you do a google image search for that specific graph, the only source is a Conservative MP called Anthony Browne who posted it on twitter. It literally doesn't appear anywhere else. Happy to be corrected by @globaldiver if he wants to point us in the right direction? It’s also inaccurate if you actually add up the official gdp figures for those years. But they also don’t count. Its all very strange Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 30 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Think this is a sensible call. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65546319 #getting brexit done Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 Let’s never argue about legal aid ever again. Shall we? https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65401587 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 21 minutes ago, Zico said: Ah ok, so 2010 was the baseline of 100% So have we grown by 21% or 121%? I read it as 21% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 33 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Think this is a sensible call. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65546319 Slowly retreating from "NO DEAL is better than a bad deal!" and "I don't care about the consequences as long as we leave ASAP!" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 37 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said: Think this is a sensible call. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-65546319 “All wrapped up in no time” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted May 10, 2023 Share Posted May 10, 2023 I found this. Can't be arsed adding it up. U.K. GDP Growth Rate - Historical Data Year GDP Growth (%) Annual Change 2021 7.52% 18.56% 2020 -11.03% -12.64% 2019 1.60% -0.10% 2018 1.71% -0.74% 2017 2.44% 0.28% 2016 2.17% -0.23% 2015 2.39% -0.81% 2014 3.20% 1.38% 2013 1.82% 0.37% 2012 1.45% 0.38% 2011 1.07% -1.36% 2010 2.43% 6.94% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 3 minutes ago, mickbrown said: I found this. Can't be arsed adding it up. U.K. GDP Growth Rate - Historical Data Year GDP Growth (%) Annual Change 2021 7.52% 18.56% 2020 -11.03% -12.64% 2019 1.60% -0.10% 2018 1.71% -0.74% 2017 2.44% 0.28% 2016 2.17% -0.23% 2015 2.39% -0.81% 2014 3.20% 1.38% 2013 1.82% 0.37% 2012 1.45% 0.38% 2011 1.07% -1.36% 2010 2.43% 6.94% I posted it further up, along with Germany’s. Weve established that our “growth” is down to the service sector, which was also the sector that caused the most drag. So it’s growth but from a fairly low base to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted May 10, 2023 Site Supporter Share Posted May 10, 2023 So, consistent, but not massive growth. Could be better, could be worse. Wouldn't envisage big growth anytime soon neither. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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