Politics

[Spider]

2 minutes ago, RoadRunnerFan said:

Facts don't matter, feelings are where its at. That and the socials.

And by the way, we've had enough of experts in this country. 

Facts

 

[Not in Crawley]

15 minutes ago, Spider said:

Facts

 

Just predictions.

No one could have known.

No one.

Not one person. 

[Spider]

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Just predictions.

No one could have known.

No one.

Not one person. 

Stop remoaning.

All those jobless lorry drivers just don’t realise it’s an opportunity to succeed.

Ironically, some of our former Irish customers are buying from Holland and the goods are transported across Britain by very employed Dutch lorry drivers.

But facts are only any good when they suit a view,

[RoadRunnerFan]

6 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Just predictions.

No one could have known.

No one.

Not one person. 

#Project Fear

Doomsters and gloomsters

[Not in Crawley]

Another of those pesky professors of economics at a Russell Group university with their fear mongering facts and actual well explained interpretations coming from a basis of actual learned knowledge.

I wondered what all those foreign collegues I've worked with over the years were contributing because, honestly, coming over here with their talent and skills and helping our economy so the whole country benefitted was sticking right in my craw.

 

[Not in Crawley]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Stop remoaning.

All those jobless lorry drivers just don’t realise it’s an opportunity to succeed.

Ironically, some of our former Irish customers are buying from Holland and the goods are transported across Britain by very employed Dutch lorry drivers.

But facts are only any good when they suit a view,

There will be a graph dug up from some libertarian right wing think tank incoming shortly.

[Mounts Kipper]

7 minutes ago, Spider said:

Stop remoaning.

All those jobless lorry drivers just don’t realise it’s an opportunity to succeed.

Ironically, some of our former Irish customers are buying from Holland and the goods are transported across Britain by very employed Dutch lorry drivers.

But facts are only any good when they suit a view,

There is a shortage of lorry drivers, they’ll not be unemployed long. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

9 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

There is a shortage of lorry drivers, they’ll not be unemployed long. 

It's gone quiet on that front recently- presumably the numbers are increasing slowly. 

The haulage industry all over isn't having an easy time at the moment. The same cost issues affecting plenty. A quick search and I found an example immediately. 

It only happens here though, just as football only started at the advent of the Premier league.

Inflation, fuel costs, new vehicle costs etc etc, only affect this country it seems.

[Spider]

8 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

It's gone quiet on that front recently- presumably the numbers are increasing slowly. 

The haulage industry all over isn't having an easy time at the moment. The same cost issues affecting plenty. A quick search and I found an example immediately. 

It only happens here though, just as football only started at the advent of the Premier league.

Inflation, fuel costs, new vehicle costs etc etc, only affect this country it seems.

It’s a shame we can’t control our own destiny

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

54 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Another of those pesky professors of economics at a Russell Group university with their fear mongering facts and actual well explained interpretations coming from a basis of actual learned knowledge.

I wondered what all those foreign collegues I've worked with over the years were contributing because, honestly, coming over here with their talent and skills and helping our economy so the whole country benefitted was sticking right in my craw.

 

The US, India, and Hong Kong doing a lot of the heavy lifting, I'd imagine

But the chart references "established employees" and so discounts students and dependents from the overall migration figure

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

 

[Casino]

Is it cos brown asians are generally small?

[Casino]

Jesus, theres folk actually seriously making that claim on the thread

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

5 minutes ago, Casino said:

Is it cos brown asians are generally small?

 

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

Jesus, theres folk actually seriously making that claim on the thread

 

It wasn't a point about immigration

[Casino]

19 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

 

 

It wasn't a point about immigration

I know it wasnt intended to be

But its getting a good airing on that twitter thread

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 minutes ago, Casino said:

I know it wasnt intended to be

But its getting a good airing on that twitter thread

Ah right yeah

I don't know about the US, but if the explanation for the decline in the UK was to do with immigration/demographics I'd expect we'd have seen a similar trend in France and Germany and we haven't

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, Sweep said:

This made me laugh more than it should have done

 

As with all things, Brexit has been a disaster for some and not others - winners and losers.

Fair comments all round. My typos are getting worse 

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, DirtySanchez said:

It wouldn't 

The Bolty way

Try and make an 'amusing' version of a username 

That only he finds funny and thinks he has caught you out 

Go wipe some shit on some curtains you humourless gimp.

[bolty58]

9 hours ago, Casino said:

you fucking loon

ive got to admire your refusal to face reality, mind

crackers

 Go on, admit it. You were looking in a mirror when you typed this weren't you?

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

Is it cos brown asians are generally small?

There are only a few obsessed with brown skin who repeatedly raise the issue on here.

If there are genuine racists amongst us, ask yourself who are likely to be the real ones. Those who never, ever make a comment about brown skin or those who seem to be obsessed by it?

[Not in Crawley]

9 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

The US, India, and Hong Kong doing a lot of the heavy lifting, I'd imagine

But the chart references "established employees" and so discounts students and dependents from the overall migration figure

Bit of an assumption. I have to say I've worked with more people from South Africa and South America.

It was more a point that listening to the people who have really done their work in this area - with the subsequent caveats and complexities they bring - is more important than soundbites and wish fulfilment for personal and political gain, and it's something western democracies seemed to have lost their grip on.

It's the Grand March of kitsch, although, as with most things, there will a turning of the circle.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said:

Bit of an assumption. I have to say I've worked with more people from South Africa and South America.

It was more a point that listening to the people who have really done their work in this area - with the subsequent caveats and complexities they bring - is more important than soundbites and wish fulfilment for personal and political gain, and it's something western democracies seemed to have lost their grip on.

It's the Grand March of kitsch, although, as with most things, there will a turning of the circle.

The Migration Observatory's own data would support the assumption

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

For the next time someone claims the state pension isn't a benefit

 

[L/H White]

fucking hell, our Churchill is so fucking thick 

 

[Ani]

43 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

For the next time someone claims the state pension isn't a benefit

 

Given they have been paying in since 1972 via NI and then with inflation it seems reasonable. In 1972 average wage was about £1800 per year compared to £30000 now, hardly surprising is it ?