Politics

[Traf]

7 hours ago, Winchester White said:

I see that due to the tax thresholds being frozen again, most folk will see little to nothing of this 2p NI reduction.

Those on low/no income and those on state pension won't benefit.

[bolty58]

11 hours ago, Sweep said:

to be fair, some are changing, even @bolty58who was as die hard a Tory as there is, has gone from having a permanent hard on at Boris being in charge, to now saying even he wouldn't vote Conservative this time around. So perhaps people can and are willing to change their mind (like @Spiderdid 😉)

There is a huge difference, as well you know, between supporting a proper conservative party instead of what is effectively Labour Lite and mistakenly placing your cross in the wrong box in a binary choice.

In Spiders case, choices absolutely must be non-binary. Just ask they/them.

Edited March 7, 2024 by bolty58

[bolty58]

10 hours ago, Sweep said:

I'm not sure who will be standing, Labour don't usually bother here (not that I'd vote for them anyway) - I'll see nearer the time, when I know who is actually standing. Possibly Green, LibDem, Independent or even Reform - anybody but the Conservatives really (and I've previously voted Conservative every time I've ever voted before in GEs and locals)

Just veer away from the Commies masquerading as environmentalist Greens and the Liberal Undemocrats and you'll be reet pal.

[Spider]

3 hours ago, bolty58 said:

There is a huge difference, as well you know, between supporting a proper conservative party instead of what is effectively Labour Lite and mistakenly placing your cross in the wrong box in a binary choice.

In Spiders case, choices absolutely must be non-binary. Just ask they/them.

 

[Jol_BWFC]

5 hours ago, Traf said:

Those on low/no income and those on state pension won't benefit.

One report I heard yesterday said anyone earning less than £26k would be worse off under the budget. That’s 1/3 of workers and likely the 1/3 that need it most. 

Edited March 7, 2024 by Jol_BWFC

[Farrelli]

This shower should not have been allowed another budget. Every public service in disarray and they have cut council funding to such an extent that we are all paying more to receive less. Many on low incomes have to choose between food or heating. Pot holes are so bad you run the risk of needing a new tyre on every journey. Public transport is terrible outside of London.  The Tories have wrecked the country. 

[Mounts Kipper]

6 hours ago, Traf said:

Those on low/no income and those on state pension won't benefit.

My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. 

[Traf]

41 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. 

You’re £1500 better off from a small cut in NI? Lucky you.

This is just another Tory policy that widens the gap, sadly.

[Sweep]

43 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. 

Blimey, that's some hike. My mates has just gone up a touch over £12K per year, since last month, so he's really feeling it

I've had a look, and apparently I'll be £754 a year better off as a result of the 2% cut yesterday  - which is nice.

 

[Sweep]

2 minutes ago, Traf said:

You’re £1500 better off from a small cut in NI? Lucky you.

This is just another Tory policy that widens the gap, sadly.

I thought the maximum was £754, I'm probably wrong though - unless @Mounts Kipperis also counting the 2% cut that we had a few months ago as well maybe?!?!

[Jol_BWFC]

48 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

My wife’s part time worker shes no better or worse off. I’m better off by £1500… doesn’t offset the 6k extra per year I’m paying for my mortgage. 

 

2 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Blimey, that's some hike. My mates has just gone up a touch over £12K per year, since last month, so he's really feeling it

I've had a look, and apparently I'll be £754 a year better off as a result of the 2% cut yesterday  - which is nice.

 

Indeed, I think it’s limited to £754.

Also, the fact that the Conservatives continue to freeze the income tax bands rather than increase them in line with inflation will probably cost you much more than that saving. Winners and losers. 

[Mounts Kipper]

24 minutes ago, Traf said:

You’re £1500 better off from a small cut in NI? Lucky you.

This is just another Tory policy that widens the gap, sadly.

It’s the first time I’ve ever been a winner. But it’s small fry compared to everything else that I and everyone else is paying more for, due to inflation and interest rate rises. 

[Mounts Kipper]

22 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I thought the maximum was £754, I'm probably wrong though - unless @Mounts Kipperis also counting the 2% cut that we had a few months ago as well maybe?!?!

Just did the guardian budget checker and that’s what it said. 

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Just did the guardian budget checker and that’s what it said. 

fair enough - the sites I look at say it's capped at £754. I guess we'll soon find out in our pay packets 😉

As @Trafstates though, it does seem to benefit higher earners rather than the lower earners.....which I don't mind, but it does widen that gap

[Sweep]

11 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Just did the guardian budget checker and that’s what it said. 

I've just done that, it's quite good - obviously it's looking at more than just the NI, that is capped at £754

 

Apparently I'm £1319.50 better off, and Mrs Sweep is £610.50 better off  - although I'm sure she'll find a way of ensuring I actually end up with less money

[mickbrown]

45 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I've just done that, it's quite good - obviously it's looking at more than just the NI, that is capped at £754

 

Apparently I'm £1319.50 better off, and Mrs Sweep is £610.50 better off  - although I'm sure she'll find a way of ensuring I actually end up with less money

Sounds good eh? Do it on the sky website for a shock. 
 

It offsets it as if the tax thresholds had risen in line with inflation, which they fucking should do  

Me and the missus together are about £3 a month better off with that chucked in  

Smoke and mirrors, he’s giving everyone the square root of fuck all  

So, just for the avoidance of doubt, fuck Hunt and fuck the Tories  

 

[little whitt]

48 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I've just done that, it's quite good - obviously it's looking at more than just the NI, that is capped at £754

 

Apparently I'm £1319.50 better off, and Mrs Sweep is £610.50 better off  - although I'm sure she'll find a way of ensuring I actually end up with less money

Car ins is up 30-40%

Council tax is up 5-10%

Mortgage's are up 

and a tin of  Heinz Tomato Soup is £1.70p a Tin 

So who is realey better off 

 

[mickbrown]

Here you go. 
 

Sorry to piss on everybody’s chips

https://news.sky.com/story/budget-2024-see-whether-you-win-or-lose-from-tax-and-national-insurance-tweaks-13088372

[Not in Crawley]

33 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Here you go. 
 

Sorry to piss on everybody’s chips

https://news.sky.com/story/budget-2024-see-whether-you-win-or-lose-from-tax-and-national-insurance-tweaks-13088372

Yup - £62.74 worse off every month.

But my mrs is £62.71 better off every month

so that's a net loss of 3p

As you say the rest is just flim flam

[BobyBrno]

5 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Yup - £62.74 worse off every month.

But my mrs is £62.71 better off every month

so that's a net loss of 3p

As you say the rest is just flim flam

Tax dodger! 😉

[captainmed]

Not even looked at the budget.

All parties are lying scumbags anyway.

The UK has been fucked for years and will only get worse and worse.

[Sweep]

50 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Here you go. 
 

Sorry to piss on everybody’s chips

https://news.sky.com/story/budget-2024-see-whether-you-win-or-lose-from-tax-and-national-insurance-tweaks-13088372

Boo...

 

according to that Mrs Sweep is £12.71 per month better off, whilst I'm £62.76 worse off each month

[Not in Crawley]

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Tax dodger! 😉

If I end up being a homeless mime in covent garden because of that 3p, then I'll expect a hefty note in my cap as I pass it round next time you're down 😁

[Sweep]

People earning more than £131,000 or between £32,000 and £55,000 win from the government's tax changes, but everyone else is paying more

[mickbrown]

Just now, little whitt said:

Car ins is up 30-40%

Council tax is up 5-10%

Mortgage's are up 

and a tin of  Heinz Tomato Soup is £1.70p a Tin 

So who is realey better off 

 

Whitt gets it.