Politics

[DirtySanchez]

11 hours ago, Casino said:

Fucking hell, her voice grates

But i stuck with it

Cant be arsed fact checking but, sadly, its probably all true

 

Thank fuck for the subtitles 

I would though

[Traf]

8 minutes ago, kent_white said:

That's part of the tragedy - nobody will ever really know.

I think he knew, hence the decision.

[Casino]

good watching rayner destroy dowden yesterday (was the dwarf hiding as he knew there was nowt down for him)

straight in, bringing up what she knew they would go after her with

shes sometimes too clever for her own good and falls over her words, but at least shes saying what she believes and not trotting out a script

can't help but like her even though i'm a bit of a snob and don't want to

 

[Farrelli]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

good watching rayner destroy dowden yesterday (was the dwarf hiding as he knew there was nowt down for him)

straight in, bringing up what she knew they would go after her with

shes sometimes too clever for her own good and falls over her words, but at least shes saying what she believes and not trotting out a script

can't help but like her even though i'm a bit of a snob and don't want to

 

Tells it like it is. She should be a hero of the gammons. 

[MickyD]

18 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Fair enough

I think I'd want a record of a conviction and a few decades of rotting in a cell first

There’s that, but there’s also the rage and the outrage and the wanting to get at him; by any means, to hurt him. To make sure he suffers. Imagine the torment of knowing he was sat with his feet up at His Majesty’s pleasure whilst all the while he’s in there, it’s you feeling the torment of not being there to protect your daughter in her hour of need. 

[gonzo]

20 minutes ago, Farrelli said:

Tells it like it is. She should be a hero of the gammons. 

Exactly that.

Why everything is so fucked up in this country.

She stands for the working classes.

How can you live in an ex industrial northern town and vote for those elitist corrupt set of blue bastards instead of lasses like her?

Reece Mogg/Gove etc? Over Burnham/Raynor?

Do me a favour..m

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, Casino said:

good watching rayner destroy dowden yesterday (was the dwarf hiding as he knew there was nowt down for him)

straight in, bringing up what she knew they would go after her with

shes sometimes too clever for her own good and falls over her words, but at least shes saying what she believes and not trotting out a script

can't help but like her even though i'm a bit of a snob and don't want to

 

There needs to be a head shaking emoji on here.

Fucking hell, she is one repulsive bint.

[bolty58]

3 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Exactly that.

Why everything is so fucked up in this country.

She stands for the working classes.

How can you live in an ex industrial northern town and vote for those elitist corrupt set of blue bastards instead of lasses like her?

Reece Mogg/Gove etc? Over Burnham/Raynor?

Do me a favour..m

I'll respond when the honeymoon period is over for the red bastards. "Stands for the working classes". FFS.

[Not in Crawley]

They are already jumping with joy - they get the snipe at the sidelines knowing the horses they back turned to shit.

That will all be forgotten though if Labour win.

Nothing if not consistently dim/sexist/hypocritical is our Bolty at least.

[DirtySanchez]

24 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

the horses they back turned to shit

Sickening 

[frank_spencer]

1 hour ago, bolty58 said:

I'll respond when the honeymoon period is over for the red bastards. "Stands for the working classes". FFS.

Certainly more than the Tories or whatever Richard Tice's latest attention grab is called. But still massively targeting the centrist middle classes at the moment.

[Not in Crawley]

17 minutes ago, frank_spencer said:

Certainly more than the Tories or whatever Richard Tice's latest attention grab is called. But still massively targeting the centrist middle classes at the moment.

The issue is Bolty thinks the 'working classes' are only represented by those akin to the St Georges Day event. Its a way of trying to discredit Starmer used by those on the far right - same as the Londonistan trope - I swear he's either a bot or else gets this alt right messages directly pumped into his head without critical reasoning or rationality (what am I saying, of course he does)

They have a range of target seats - the skill is to make sure the message is palatable for the shires and the red wall.

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

Certainly more than the Tories or whatever Richard Tice's latest attention grab is called. But still massively targeting the centrist middle classes at the moment.

As you have no doubt noticed, the red hypocrisy over the decades of observing have bred in me an absolute and irreversible distrust.

The lying bastards look you in the eye, call you 'brother' and tell you that we are all equal 'so please keep paying your union dues' whilst they stab you in the back, ride the gravy train and don't give two fucks about northern workers until it nears election time then we are back to the brother scenario for a while.

Until relatively recently, Conservative types have looked you in the eye and told you they are going to stab you but that it is for the greater good. At least then you know that it is coming and, if you have anything about you can take the necessary steps to cushion any blows.

Sadly, this shower at the moment are a pale shadow of what conservatism should be all about and deserve what they will undoubtedly get at the next GE. Annihilation.

I do believe that the biggest mistake they made was in not getting Penny Mordaunt at the helm after Bojo went. They would still lose the next GE but it would be unlikely to be the rout that it will be and therefore be less of a climb back up the hill. Having said that, who would have believed that Labour would be back in favour so soon after the absolute mullering they received from Bojo?

Almost as funny a game as football sometimes.

Vote Reform.

[frank_spencer]

30 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

As you have no doubt noticed, the red hypocrisy over the decades of observing have bred in me an absolute and irreversible distrust.

The lying bastards look you in the eye, call you 'brother' and tell you that we are all equal 'so please keep paying your union dues' whilst they stab you in the back, ride the gravy train and don't give two fucks about northern workers until it nears election time then we are back to the brother scenario for a while.

Until relatively recently, Conservative types have looked you in the eye and told you they are going to stab you but that it is for the greater good. At least then you know that it is coming and, if you have anything about you can take the necessary steps to cushion any blows.

Sadly, this shower at the moment are a pale shadow of what conservatism should be all about and deserve what they will undoubtedly get at the next GE. Annihilation.

I do believe that the biggest mistake they made was in not getting Penny Mordaunt at the helm after Bojo went. They would still lose the next GE but it would be unlikely to be the rout that it will be and therefore be less of a climb back up the hill. Having said that, who would have believed that Labour would be back in favour so soon after the absolute mullering they received from Bojo?

Almost as funny a game as football sometimes.

Vote Reform.

Reform? The lunatic fringe of conservative politics?

Had you been championing a party closer to David Cameron/ George Osborne style Tories (even though I don't agree with them politically) I might have thought you wanted something beneficial for the country and a return to sensible politics. Reform are no more a sensible political choice than the Communist Party. Just gobshites stirring up pointless culture war bollocks the same as that twat in the lala land thread just coming from the other end of the political spectrum.

[kent_white]

4 hours ago, bolty58 said:

I'll respond when the honeymoon period is over for the red bastards. "Stands for the working classes". FFS.

Surely you'll get behind them. The same way we all had to get behind Brexit? 

[Not in Crawley]

59 minutes ago, bolty58 said:

As you have no doubt noticed, the red hypocrisy over the decades of observing have bred in me an absolute and irreversible distrust.

The lying bastards look you in the eye, call you 'brother' and tell you that we are all equal 'so please keep paying your union dues' whilst they stab you in the back, ride the gravy train and don't give two fucks about northern workers until it nears election time then we are back to the brother scenario for a while.

Until relatively recently, Conservative types have looked you in the eye and told you they are going to stab you but that it is for the greater good. At least then you know that it is coming and, if you have anything about you can take the necessary steps to cushion any blows.

Sadly, this shower at the moment are a pale shadow of what conservatism should be all about and deserve what they will undoubtedly get at the next GE. Annihilation.

I do believe that the biggest mistake they made was in not getting Penny Mordaunt at the helm after Bojo went. They would still lose the next GE but it would be unlikely to be the rout that it will be and therefore be less of a climb back up the hill. Having said that, who would have believed that Labour would be back in favour so soon after the absolute mullering they received from Bojo?

Almost as funny a game as football sometimes.

Vote Reform.

The body is moving but there is little sign of life.

[BobyBrno]

8 minutes ago, kent_white said:

Surely you'll get behind them. The same way we all had to get behind Brexit? 

Did we all get behind Brexit? Nah. 
It’s been a while since we’ve had a Labour Government. People either forget or are too young to remember but honeymoon periods are very short in politics. (They haven’t been elected yet. Rhino skins needed for those of a fragile political persuasion 😊)

Even with their huge lead in the polls, they are still only polling around 44% of the voting population. Don’t expect an easy ride.

[gonzo]

Aye think back to when Conservatives got back in, it should've been a landslide. Took a hung parliament to get them in, even with the apparent shit storm the country had been in at the time after Gordon Brown sold all the gold

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Aye think back to when Conservatives got back in, it should've been a landslide. Took a hung parliament to get them in, even with the apparent shit storm the country had been in at the time after Gordon Brown sold all the gold

It was a landslide in December 2019. 
Talking about Gordon Brown, his Pension raid was far worse than the gold sell off. Neither mentioned in any manifesto. He probably lost the 2010 election with his ‘bigoted woman’ comments recorded by and broadcast by the BBC. 
All’s fair in love, war and politics.

 

[Sweep]

12 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It was a landslide in December 2019. 
 

 

Indeed it was, and if Labour tonk the Conservatives later this year, as is pretty much predicted/expected, it'll be an incredible swing. I don't think anybody thought that would be remotely possible 5 years ago. I would say you have to give Labour a huge amount of credit, but I don't think you have to......but it's purely down to Johnson & Truss that The Conservatives are going to be out of power.

Labour will gain power, primarily based on the fact that they're not the Conservatives, and that's just shite

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, Sweep said:

Indeed it was, and if Labour tonk the Conservatives later this year, as is pretty much predicted/expected, it'll be an incredible swing. I don't think anybody thought that would be remotely possible 5 years ago. I would say you have to give Labour a huge amount of credit, but I don't think you have to......but it's purely down to Johnson & Truss that The Conservatives are going to be out of power.

Labour will gain power, primarily based on the fact that they're not the Conservatives, and that's just shite

Can’t argue with any of that. Covid had an effect of course but the wrong people in charge at the wrong time. 

[gonzo]

50 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

It was a landslide in December 2019. 
Talking about Gordon Brown, his Pension raid was far worse than the gold sell off. Neither mentioned in any manifesto. He probably lost the 2010 election with his ‘bigoted woman’ comments recorded by and broadcast by the BBC. 
All’s fair in love, war and politics.

 

Biggest mistake in UK politics history allowing Corbyn to blow the Labour Party apart and leave the Conservatives to their own devices for 12 years.

[Not in Crawley]

1 hour ago, BobyBrno said:

Did we all get behind Brexit? Nah. 
It’s been a while since we’ve had a Labour Government. People either forget or are too young to remember but honeymoon periods are very short in politics. (They haven’t been elected yet. Rhino skins needed for those of a fragile political persuasion 😊)

Even with their huge lead in the polls, they are still only polling around 44% of the voting population. Don’t expect an easy ride.

I don't think anyone is, this small little sample shows there are some already very giddy kippers waiting to jump up and down.

Oh and your slightly revisionist reading of GB tenure is quite something.

Anyway - I'm afraid i'll have to leave you to it as im out out tonight.

😘

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I don't think anyone is, this small little sample shows there are some already very giddy kippers waiting to jump up and down.

Oh and your slightly revisionist reading of GB tenure is quite something.

Anyway - I'm afraid i'll have to leave you to it as im out out tonight.

😘

Don’t be afraid. I don’t care what you think. 

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Biggest mistake in UK politics history allowing Corbyn to blow the Labour Party apart and leave the Conservatives to their own devices for 12 years.

The Labour Party members vote for their leader. The Conservatives vote for theirs. We, as an electorate, have to choose who’s best. It’s not a great system but there are worse. 
A large majority is not something I’ve ever been in favour of. Either party.

Here’s a thing though. Bolton has always been a barometer of national election results. The current council has a Labour leader but no overall political control. It was the same before the last local elections but with a Conservative leader. 
Could we (Bolton) be a blueprint for the future? It wouldn’t be the first time. 😊🤞