wakey Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 5 hours ago, tomski said: Show some compassion @wakey I do try 🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted July 30 Members Share Posted July 30 Politics is easy in opposition Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 That was before they found out about the 20 billion black hole Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 30 Moderators Share Posted July 30 26 minutes ago, Farrelli said: That was before they found out about the 20 billion black hole I like darren jones But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZiggyStardust Posted July 30 Share Posted July 30 2 minutes ago, Casino said: I like darren jones But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus Spot on. In the same way that the Tories will now criticise Labour, for doing exactly what the Tories did. If its a poor choice now, it was a poor choice then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 hours ago, Casino said: I like darren jones But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus Maybe but they still have a lot of in year spend to claw back…and a budget coming up…. Yougov polling yesterday suggests the public supports the means test on WFA. Not by huge margins and obviously not over 65’s but broadly there is support. I think they would say it’s a bad choice out of a set of bad choices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted July 31 Share Posted July 31 8 hours ago, Casino said: I like darren jones But, if it was a poor choice then, its a poor choice now I think politically theyd be beeter banging a penny on tax for folk on 50 plus I’m sure it will come. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted July 31 Moderators Share Posted July 31 We could also reverse the ridiculous unaffordable NI cut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 6 Members Share Posted August 6 Convicted of manslaughter Sentenced to a ludicrously low two years and eight month Released after five months due to prison being too full I'm sure he'll have learned his lesson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 That’s not good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 6 Moderators Share Posted August 6 14 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Convicted of manslaughter Sentenced to a ludicrously low two years and eight month Released after five months due to prison being too full I'm sure he'll have learned his lesson Gang fight, victim carrying a baseball bat, the scrote didnt kill him Theres no innocents here Ive read hes not a british national, so release him and deport him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 5 hours ago, Casino said: Ive read hes not a british national, so release him and deport him Yep, works for me. In fact get all those non-nationals out of the judicial system and deport them, free up the space for our own criminals. But still build more prisons ASAP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 6 Members Share Posted August 6 5 hours ago, Casino said: Gang fight, victim carrying a baseball bat, the scrote didnt kill him Theres no innocents here Ive read hes not a british national, so release him and deport him I think it's more about the message such lenient punishment sends out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 6 Members Share Posted August 6 31 minutes ago, Traf said: Yep, works for me. In fact get all those non-nationals out of the judicial system and deport them, free up the space for our own criminals. But still build more prisons ASAP. We'd find it very difficult to deport them if there's a risk they might come to harm in their own countries, or if the have children / a partner here and deporting them would infringe upon their "right to a family life" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 6 Share Posted August 6 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: We'd find it very difficult to deport them if there's a risk they might come to harm in their own countries, or if the have children / a partner here and deporting them would infringe upon their "right to a family life" Indeed, but the terms and conditions of being granted refuge/asylum should include an instant return to your homeland if you are convicted of a criminal offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 6 Members Share Posted August 6 Just now, Traf said: Indeed, but the terms and conditions of being granted refuge/asylum should include an instant return to your homeland if you are convicted of a criminal offence. They should, but that'd be in breach of Articles 3 and 8 of the ECHR so is unfortunately a non-starter And also Section 4 of the Human Rights Act Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter only1swanny Posted August 6 Site Supporter Share Posted August 6 Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lt. Aldo Raine Posted August 6 Members Share Posted August 6 Just now, only1swanny said: Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 6 hours ago, only1swanny said: Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here? I think the preferred option is send murderers back home and our homegrown murderers stay where they did the crime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltonboris Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 11 hours ago, only1swanny said: Whats our opinion on countries sending our criminals back? Say for example someone murders someone in Spain, do they send them back here? After they have served their sentence, then yes, I do think they should be deported Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 10 minutes ago, boltonboris said: After they have served their sentence, then yes, I do think they should be deported Agree with this. Serve the time in the place the offence was committed, and then send back from where they came once released Edited August 7 by Sweep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Anyone who's here as a immigrant or refugee who's convicted of a violent crime/sexual offences should be on the the first plane/boat/trebuchet back to their home country once they've served their time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 7 Members Share Posted August 7 4 hours ago, frank_spencer said: Anyone who's here as a immigrant or refugee who's convicted of a violent crime/sexual offences should be on the the first plane/boat/trebuchet back to their home country once they've served their time. I am liking this constructive suggestion Frank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 Trebuchet? Well done, a WW first usage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted August 7 Share Posted August 7 (edited) 1 hour ago, bolty58 said: I am liking this constructive suggestion Frank. Sex pests and kiddy fiddlers are returned to their home country via the siege weapon of the victim's or their family's choice. Edited August 7 by frank_spencer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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