Politics

[BobyBrno]

51 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Do you think pensioners who either don't need the Winter Fuel Allowance, or live abroad in a warm country, should be given the same as pensioners who are genuinely struggling?

No. No one thinks that on here. We’ve been over it many times. Even when it was introduced. 

[Spider]

3 hours ago, BobyBrno said:

Deceit.

 

noun

1. the action or practice of deceiving someone by concealing or misrepresenting the truth.

   "a web of deceit"

Good to know that we are setting lines in the sand here.

If they're not supposed to take credit for positives, then nor should they be criticised for any shit that was handed to them back in June 🙂

[bolty58]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

what the fuck are you on about

nobody credible actually thinks hes done anything wrong

then we come on to the likes of you

where has he been deceitful?

Are you saying that I am incredible then?

Thanks pal. 

 

[athywhite1958]

3 hours ago, Cheese said:

Do you think pensioners who either don't need the Winter Fuel Allowance, or live abroad in a warm country, should be given the same as pensioners who are genuinely struggling?

No

[athywhite1958]

"Dear Lord Alli, I am studying the forms to apply for my winter fuel allowance. I am finding it difficult as there is a lot of noise outside, I was wondering if you had a spare £18m mansion I could use?" 

TIA

[Spider]

8 hours ago, athywhite1958 said:

"Dear Lord Alli, I am studying the forms to apply for my winter fuel allowance. I am finding it difficult as there is a lot of noise outside, I was wondering if you had a spare £18m mansion I could use?" 

TIA

Like I say. They’ve a looooong way to go

[ZiggyStardust]

9 minutes ago, Spider said:

Like I say. They’ve a looooong way to go

Thank fuck everything in 2016 went so smoothly.

[BobyBrno]

59 minutes ago, Spider said:

Like I say. They’ve a looooong way to go

14 years. Labour appear to be in meltdown in less than 14 weeks. Rosie has gone. How many more? 
 

[kent_white]

52 minutes ago, ZiggyStardust said:

Thank fuck everything in 2016 went so smoothly.

"In 1975, no-one died.

In 1976, no-one died.

In 1977, no-one died.

In 1978, no-one died.

In 1979, no-one died.

In 1980, some ONE died.

In 1981, no-one died.

In 1982… there was the incident with the pigeon.

In 1983, no-one died.

In 1984, no-one died.

In 1985, no-one died.

In 1986… I mean i could go on"

[kent_white]

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

14 years. Labour appear to be in meltdown in less than 14 weeks. Rosie has gone. How many more? 
 

I just don't see this meltdown? I just see a load of poeple desperately trying to undermine the new government. To be expected I suppose but by Christ it's silly.

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I just don't see this meltdown? I just see a load of poeple desperately trying to undermine the new government. To be expected I suppose but by Christ it's silly.

That populist, right wing, main stream Guardian is also putting the boot in. Maybe they could be right?

 

[jmjhb]

Duffield has had one foot out of the door the past year anyway

[kent_white]

1 minute ago, BobyBrno said:

That populist, right wing, main stream Guardian is also putting the boot in. Maybe they could be right?

 

He's got to do whatever he's got to do to get the country out of its current malaise. If that includes speaking to the possible next leader of the most powerful country on earth and the UKs closest ally - then he's absolutely doing the right thing and I couldn't care less what the Guardian have to say. 

[Zico]

19 minutes ago, kent_white said:

"In 1975, no-one died.

In 1976, no-one died.

In 1977, no-one died.

In 1978, no-one died.

In 1979, no-one died.

In 1980, some ONE died.

In 1981, no-one died.

In 1982… there was the incident with the pigeon.

In 1983, no-one died.

In 1984, no-one died.

In 1985, no-one died.

In 1986… I mean i could go on"

 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I'm not sure it's critical of the meeting Trump itself, but if it is then I agree - he's one of the two candidates for the leadership of our most important ally and it's right that he tries to build a rapport

[BobyBrno]

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

He's got to do whatever he's got to do to get the country out of its current malaise. If that includes speaking to the possible next leader of the most powerful country on earth and the UKs closest ally - then he's absolutely doing the right thing and I couldn't care less what the Guardian have to say. 

He? It’s the whole lot of them. They are all in it together.
The Unions, the normally left wing press and numerous Labour MP’s have all expressed their contempt for this government. It’s going to get so much worse. 

[Spider]

31 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

14 years. Labour appear to be in meltdown in less than 14 weeks. Rosie has gone. How many more? 
 

Meltdown?

a known agitator who rode the back of Labour and was always going to bin them off, and some fucking cranks on Twitter who think Starmer is gay.

its not much to go on

[BobyBrno]

6 minutes ago, Spider said:

Meltdown?

a known agitator who rode the back of Labour and was always going to bin them off, and some fucking cranks on Twitter who think Starmer is gay.

its not much to go on

Is Starmer gay? 
 

The unions?

The Guardian?

The MP’s who abstained?

The MP’s who voted against?

Rosies letter?

(Theres lots more)

You when you realise you got it wrong again?
It’s all gone wrong so quickly. 

[BobyBrno]

On 22/05/2024 at 16:49, Not in Crawley said:

 

Anyway, gives me a month to register to vote in my new place and for the first time in eaons I get to try and keep an incument Labour MP in power. Fire up the Vote Duffield Machine - I'm a-coming to help Rosie!

The Duffield Machine has spoken.

😅

[Not in Crawley]

2 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

The Duffield Machine has spoken.

😅

Not really, I voted her in yes, do I agree with her stance now? No. And I've been quite vocal about it in our local CLP meetings.

Politics isn't binary, it's not a zero numbers game. I think she's making some bad decisions for her own specific electorate here in Canterbury. There are few that now support her and tonight there has been a lot that are saying they are glad she has left.

See how politics shifts? Probably not, but I wouldn't expect it given your previous stances on things.

I'm a member of the Labour Party, I think that the current leadership are doing well and if Duffield wants to leave then it's OK.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Duffield and Starmer have been at odds (putting it quite mildly) for a long time and it seems she really just waited until after re-election to resign from the party, safe in the knowledge she'll retain her seat and her salary for another five years

For all her disgust at Reeves' scrapping of the universality of the WFP, she didn't bother to vote against it

[BobyBrno]

3 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

Not really, I voted her in yes, do I agree with her stance now? No. And I've been quite vocal about it in our local CLP meetings.

Politics isn't binary, it's not a zero numbers game. I think she's making some bad decisions for her own specific electorate here in Canterbury. There are few that now support her and tonight there has been a lot that are saying they are glad she has left.

See how politics shifts? Probably not, but I wouldn't expect it given your previous stances on things.

I'm a member of the Labour Party, I think that the current leadership are doing well and if Duffield wants to leave then it's OK.

What is/are my previous stance on things?

Im not a member of any political party. 
Being a member of a party surely makes you binary. Does it not?

[BobyBrno]

5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Duffield and Starmer have been at odds (putting it quite mildly) for a long time and it seems she really just waited until after re-election to resign from the party, safe in the knowledge she'll retain her seat and her salary for another five years

For all her disgust at Reeves' scrapping of the universality of the WFP, she didn't bother to vote against it

Another hypocrite then. The Labour Party is full of them.

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

3 minutes ago, BobyBrno said:

Another hypocrite then. Political parties are full of them.

 

[athywhite1958]

2 hours ago, Spider said:

Like I say. They’ve a looooong way to go

Mine was tongue in cheek mate, I don't give  a fuck about politics