Politics

[Spider]

I never see many gammons coming out of the church near me on a Sunday morning.

[Ani]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Let's not forget Islam is 600 years behind everyone else.

 

Do they not know we won the World Cup then ? 

[frank_spencer]

43 minutes ago, Ani said:

Do they not know we won the World Cup then ? 

Don't forget the 2 world wars as well.

 

[gonzo]

Someone should let them know. Tell em we are all OK with women and gays now while you're at it.

Oh and blasphemy died about a 100 years ago 👌

[Guest]

2 hours ago, gonzo said:

Let's not forget Islam is 600 years behind everyone else.

 

Some people are. Go to rural Alabama or wherever and there are Christian’s 600 years behind everyone else.

I also think that most of the people very concerned about Islam would be also the ones very annoyed about sex education in schools and also in opposition to women’s rights in many cases. 
 

I don’t buy the argument and never have that Islam automatically makes you a backwards social conservative. We have plenty of evidence that happens entirely without Islam. 

[Cheese]

14 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Some people are. Go to rural Alabama or wherever and there are Christian’s 600 years behind everyone else.

I also think that most of the people very concerned about Islam would be also the ones very annoyed about sex education in schools and also in opposition to women’s rights in many cases. 
 

I don’t buy the argument and never have that Islam automatically makes you a backwards social conservative. We have plenty of evidence that happens entirely without Islam. 

Exactly. Christians and Muslims have a lot more in common with each other than they do with anybody else.

[gonzo]

18 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Exactly. Christians and Muslims have a lot more in common with each other than they do with anybody else.

Think your confusing Christians with hard-line Catholics.

....and tbf I'm probably doing the same on the other side

 

[Cheese]

Just now, gonzo said:

Think your confusing Christians with hard-line Catholics.

....and tbf I'm probably doing the same on the other side

Nope.

[Zico]

5 hours ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Some people are. Go to rural Alabama or wherever and there are Christian’s 600 years behind everyone else.

I also think that most of the people very concerned about Islam would be also the ones very annoyed about sex education in schools and also in opposition to women’s rights in many cases. 
 

I don’t buy the argument and never have that Islam automatically makes you a backwards social conservative. We have plenty of evidence that happens entirely without Islam. 

Aye 

The phrase western values is bollocks and the idea that Islam are a threat to them

Lots of western folk and regimes align with Islam when it comes to backwards non progressive views on the world and people

[Winchester White]

1 hour ago, Zico said:

Aye 

The phrase western values is bollocks and the idea that Islam are a threat to them

Lots of western folk and regimes align with Islam when it comes to backwards non progressive views on the world and people

I agree mostly.

Loads of folk love to say it is one religion that is the problem but forget our history and meddling in the east caused these problems.

[bolty58]

On 28/11/2024 at 20:33, mickbrown said:

Kemi is hilarious at PMQs

She’s facking useless

A good thing in many ways. More concrete for the Farage foundations.

100K and counting.

[bolty58]

On 28/11/2024 at 23:27, Sweep said:

I think you're being a bit harsh there on the personal stuff mate

Don't worry mate. I can pay back in kind. That spineless fucking weasel wouldn't have the bollocks to look me in the eye and say that.

TBF to him, he is correct about one thing. If 'Islamophobic' means fear or lack of trust them he is perfectly correct. Even a miniscule mind like his should be able to understand why.

[little whitt]

On 28/11/2024 at 20:31, Spider said:

I’d set fire to an orphanage for a go on her

was in a lift at our place in hotel once 

[Guest]

Saw a bit of question time - Rory Stewart is one of the few politicians who makes real sense these days. Says it how it is not how people would like it to be. No place for reality it seems. 

[Cheese]

4 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Saw a bit of question time - Rory Stewart is one of the few politicians who makes real sense these days. Says it how it is not how people would like it to be. No place for reality it seems. 

Except he's not a politician.

[Sweep]

5 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Saw a bit of question time - Rory Stewart is one of the few politicians who makes real sense these days. Says it how it is not how people would like it to be. No place for reality it seems. 

He's one of the few former politicians that comes over really well, on a consist basis. IMO

Edited December 1, 2024 by Sweep

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

I'm not sure I can agree he always tells it how it is rather than how people would like it to be given whate he said about his own his prediction in the presidential election 

[kent_white]

40 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Saw a bit of question time - Rory Stewart is one of the few politicians who makes real sense these days. Says it how it is not how people would like it to be. No place for reality it seems. 

One man who could have conceivably made me vote Tory

[Guest]

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

I'm not sure I can agree he always tells it how it is rather than how people would like it to be given whate he said about his own his prediction in the presidential election 

Sure. But I think that was allowable. I knew he was miles off with it. I think he knew too. Back in August he was basically saying Harris would be destroyed for all the reasons I thought she would. He got swept up in it I think when he went to DNC. But nobody is going to get everything right.

What I like about him is that he’s prepared to say ‘nobody knows why this is happening’ rather than deciding that whatever cheap ideology he’s trying to peddle has the answer to why something is happening. 

Labour blame the Tories. The Tories blame minorities. Reform blame everyone who isn’t them. The cycle of political failure is in part because people aren’t prepared to properly examine the evidence. Rory is someone who does and will and put that above their own ideology. 

[bolty58]

8 hours ago, kent_white said:

One man who could have conceivably made me vote Tory

Right. Time to up my game.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

Many politicians seem to be more plausible when no longer a politician. 

RS just the same.

A smart fella, who struggled to play the game at the top table.

Reminds me a touch of the characters in "first among equals".

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

His book is quite interesting on the subject of how hamstrung he was by the civil service during his time as a minister

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

His book is quite interesting on the subject of how hamstrung he was by the civil service during his time as a minister

T'was ever thus. 

 

[Traf]

Is he not just another shit failed Tory that just isn't as shit as the other shit failed Tories, so he looks good by comparison?
 

Tallest dwarf and all that.

Edited December 2, 2024 by Traf

[Guest]

4 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Many politicians seem to be more plausible when no longer a politician. 

RS just the same.

A smart fella, who struggled to play the game at the top table.

Reminds me a touch of the characters in "first among equals".

He was plausible as a politician it’s just his party became infested with the terminally stupid.