Politics

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

Asylum seekers are not economic migrants and shouldn't be treated as such

[Zico]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

The only reason most come on boats is to exploit the system. They don't want to contribute fuck all. That's the problem.

There's only one reason 50 Vietnamese lads are tipping up on a boat. Same reason the gang of Albanians or Kurds. They're not here to pick fruit or mop floors at Townleys.

That issue and the proper migration issue are two different things.

We need proper migrants here to contribute.

read in the past that a lot of Vietnamese are promised a better life then soon as they get here are made to be cannabis farmers, prositutes or work in nail bars

so basically slaves

but ironically doing much needed jobs

[Guest]

10 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Asylum seekers are not economic migrants and shouldn't be treated as such

They aren’t but id argue that looking into the next 50 years we will have to start doing so. More and more asylum seekers. 

[gonzo]

1 minute ago, Zico said:

read in the past that a lot of Vietnamese are promised a better life then soon as they get here are made to be cannabis farmers, prositutes or work in nail bars

so basically slaves

but ironically doing much needed jobs

Also represent the highest % of boat folk by a margin.

Here's everyone smashing mosques up. I'm off to brick Ching Pongs Nail Salon in town.

[Traf]

1 hour ago, gonzo said:

Also represent the highest % of boat folk by a margin.

Here's everyone smashing mosques up. I'm off to brick Ching Pongs Nail Salon in town.

Makes me laugh when UK Gammon goes to the Far East and bring wives home.

[gonzo]

Bloody foreign slags nicking all our Rangers fans

[bolty58]

All this 'reverse racism'. A cornucopia of virtue signalling. The feelgood factor must be marvellous (or desperately needed in the face of what is happening). Won't rise to it.

Meanwhile I'll sit back and quietly watch what happens in France and Germany. Will the rise continue?

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

It's good to read Starmer be critical of how obstructive the Civil Service can be

The same criticism has been made previously but tended to be dismissed because of who was making it

[bolty58]

53 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It's good to read Starmer be critical of how obstructive the Civil Service can be

The same criticism has been made previously but tended to be dismissed because of who was making it

He'll shut up soon. Labour's paymasters in their union will soon have him pull his head in.

He'll be apologising tomorrow - you watch.

[kent_white]

1 hour ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

It's good to read Starmer be critical of how obstructive the Civil Service can be

The same criticism has been made previously but tended to be dismissed because of who was making it

Yeah - very telling that he seemed to think that some people were willing to accept 'managed decline'. 

This country needs to get it's act together and quickly. And create a new narrative for itself. 

[Tonge moor green jacket]

7 hours ago, kent_white said:

Yeah - very telling that he seemed to think that some people were willing to accept 'managed decline'. 

This country needs to get it's act together and quickly. And create a new narrative for itself. 

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk-heading-for-recession-recruiter-warns/

Well, it's a funny way of overcoming whitehall's managed decline.

Concerns over the London Stock Exchange too.

 

[Traf]

Recruiters? Pah, what do they know anyway?

Metrosexual effete hipsters at the best of times.

[kent_white]

26 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/news/uk-heading-for-recession-recruiter-warns/

Well, it's a funny way of overcoming whitehall's managed decline.

Concerns over the London Stock Exchange too.

 

We'll have to see. The growth forecasts don't seem to indicate that. 

And I'd imagine that the lead for a recruitment agency has got some skin in the game and might not be the most accurate source.

[tomski]

I wonder if anyone, anywhere in the world likes their country and the government they have. I’ll go Nigeria or Philippines😂 

[Casino]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

We'll have to see. The growth forecasts don't seem to indicate that. 

And I'd imagine that the lead for a recruitment agency has got some skin in the game and might not be the most accurate source.

Even if it is shite, itd be shiter with the shite we got shut of

[bolty58]

2 hours ago, Traf said:

Recruiters? Pah, what do they know anyway?

Metrosexual effete hipsters at the best of times.

Don't antagonise him when he's had a night on the Chardonnay FFS.

[bolty58]

1 hour ago, tomski said:

I wonder if anyone, anywhere in the world likes their country and the government they have. I’ll go Nigeria or Philippines😂 

I'll go Liechtenstein.

[tomski]

1 minute ago, bolty58 said:

I'll go Liechtenstein.

A solid shout if such people exist.

[Mounts Kipper]

Anyone see the stats quoted on QT by Farage last night….he said of the last 2 million immigrants to come to uk only 16% are working, surely that can’t be right.

[Sweep]

21 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Anyone see the stats quoted on QT by Farage last night….he said of the last 2 million immigrants to come to uk only 16% are working, surely that can’t be right.

I don't know if that's right, but if it is, and bearing in mind the vast majority of them are here legally, and have had to apply to come here, then that's just ridiculous

[Mounts Kipper]

9 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I don't know if that's right, but if it is, and bearing in mind the vast majority of them are here legally, and have had to apply to come here, then that's just ridiculous

Just found it on twitter. 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

It'd have to be a figure that takes into account refugees, asylum seekers, students, spouses, children and any other dependents I'd think, but it's conceivable it's right (if working is defined as legal employment)

Until he, or in fact anyone, provides evidence for it though, I wouldn't take it as gospel

[Ani]

I think the figure Farage was quoting will have its basis in fact but as with all stats depends what point you want to make.

40% (I think) of people come to study. So if you think that means only 60% could be working. The others have to show they have funding in place and can not claim benefits. 
 

There is or was an 18 month delay on processing applicants, which untill processed can not work. So if it was these Farage was talking about only 25% could be working so 16% not unreasonable. 
 

So however he was using the numbers, I would guess you can make a case for them being true, but that does not mean it tell the 'truth and the whole truth' 

The report below is 12 months old but it shows immigrants are more likely to be working than 'locals'. 

 

https://migrationobservatory.ox.ac.uk/resources/briefings/migrants-in-the-uk-labour-market-an-overview/

 

[Casino]

Farage is an opportunist cunt

His mate tice is worse

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

It's not strictly true that benefits can't be claimed

NRPF status can be removed by submitting an application under change of condition

Social housing can also be obtained if an application for social housing is submitted via a housing association rather than a local authority

And also, certain benefits fall outside the legal definition of public funds and so can be claimed regardless of immigration status (JSA, SSP, statutory parental payments, etc.)

The latter is available provided the person has made the required NI contributions, which might be fair enough, but regardless they are still benefits that can be claimed