Politics

[tomski]

remind me again, which are the laws in particular that people don't want?

curvy bananas back

[Sweep]

curvy bananas back

 

of course, that and we want to be able to sell fruit and veg in pounds and ounces again

[birch-chorley]

The one which equalises annuity rates for males and females, even though all data collected over more than a century indicates that, on average, females live longer than males and will continue to do so for another century.

Do you think that this will be changed? I can't see it

 

Can you find a law that was imposed on us by the EU that we really didn't want? My understanding is that we had a right to dig and just say NO if we were really passionately against something

[Sweep]

Do you think that this will be changed? I can't see it

 

Can you find a law that was imposed on us by the EU that we really didn't want? My understanding is that we had a right to dig and just say NO if we were really passionately against something

 

Has the sky fallen in?  -  if not, there is nothing to worry about

[MalcolmW]

Do you think that this will be changed? I can't see it

 

Can you find a law that was imposed on us by the EU that we really didn't want? My understanding is that we had a right to dig and just say NO if we were really passionately against something

 

It's the French who dig in and say NON - we follow the rules laid down, just like we queue, because we see it as the right thing to do.

[gonzo]

Do you think that this will be changed? I can't see it

 

Can you find a law that was imposed on us by the EU that we really didn't want? My understanding is that we had a right to dig and just say NO if we were really passionately against something

Works the other way too.

 

I.e. The smoking ban, drink driving laws.

 

We were one of the first to impose these.

[Ani]

Not sure its quite as simple as that. All this is way over my swede, but a chap on the box a few weeks ago explained it as being a necessary 'temporary' measure whilst the unique situation is addressed.

From what he was saying, I got the impression that once we'd left parliament would then be able to revisit stuff as necessary.

It just needed doing quickly with ministers making initial alterations as necessary to prepare for the leaving date.

That said its a minefield, and if it was shown that an abuse of power was indeed going on, then a weakish government may well be fucked

But that is exactly as I said. That is the 'now' position.

 

It may well change in the future but as it stands parliament has been removed from the process.

[Tonge moor green jacket]

But that is exactly as I said. That is the 'now' position.

It may well change in the future but as it stands parliament has been removed from the process.

Aye, but that's only on the moved euro stuff isn't it? Not new stuff we create- or is it?

 

I understand and agree with the point you're making, just happy to cut the government some slack while they get this sorted.

As its never been done before, there must be a concern that too much delay will be harmful.

 

But, if they fuck it up they'll get voted out next time any road.

[kent_white]

The one which equalises annuity rates for males and females, even though all data collected over more than a century indicates that, on average, females live longer than males and will continue to do so for another century.

'WHAT DO WE WANT? The end of the law which equalises annuity rates for males and females, even though all data collected over more than a century indicates that, on average, females live longer than males and will continue to do so for another century. WHEN DO WE WANT IT? Now!'

[Guest]

So all those laws everybody wanted rid of are coming over to British law lock stock and barrel anyway??

 

It would be hilarious if wasn't so tragic.

 

What a waste of everybody's time this all really is.

 

 

That's been the plan for about a year!

[birch-chorley]

That's been the plan for about a year!

It has, your right

 

But given the fact that sovereignty was such a huge issue for leavers you'd have thought that they might have earmarked a handful of laws that they do not want to transfer over

 

Apart from a few obscure ones that the vast majority have no idea of I doubt anything will get fucked off within 12 months of us leaving

[Tonge moor green jacket]

They have to be transferred before we can change them. A load of bollocks but that's how they work it.

[birch-chorley]

No they don't

 

We don't have to transfer them if we don't want to

 

Granted it would be a mess if we didn't but we don't have to

 

We could certainly leave some bits out of we wanted to, the point is that we don't want to remove anything of any great significance

[Sweep]

 

But given the fact that sovereignty was such a huge issue for leavers 

 

Most "Leavers" didn't and still don't have a clue what they actually meant by "Sovereignty"  -  it's not their fault, it's the fault of both the "leave" and the "remain" sides for not explaining it properly

[jayjayoghani]

Do you think that this will be changed? I can't see it

 

Can you find a law that was imposed on us by the EU that we really didn't want? My understanding is that we had a right to dig and just say NO if we were really passionately against something

Free movement

[MalcolmW]

No they don't

 

We don't have to transfer them if we don't want to

 

Granted it would be a mess if we didn't but we don't have to

 

We could certainly leave some bits out of we wanted to, the point is that we don't want to remove anything of any great significance

 

On day one we need to have laws in place.

Pick and mix does not work - the plan has always been to transfer en bloc and change references to EU institutions appropriately asap.

Debating them all individually is not feasible. There is enough bleating about the hours Parliament is having to meet as it is, so it is up to ministers to do the appropriate overnight shift.

[birch-chorley]

Free movement

That's not a law is it? It's one of the freedoms along with movement of goods, services and money

 

This isn't being transferred over with the rest of the laws

 

In terms of sovereignty, we had / have it - we can veto any laws we don't want / agree with

[gonzo]

 

 

In terms of sovereignty, we had / have it - we can veto any laws we don't want / agree with

A lot of people really don't get this.

[MalcolmW]

Next week of negotiations put back from next week to the one after.

As the German election falls in the weekend between those it seems pointless to be meeting before then.

[Casino]

Free movement

I'm just waiting for the day the daily mail realises this country is fucked without unskilled eastern europeans

[DirtySanchez]

A lot of people really don't get this.

A bit like when the judges who decided about how the leave process should work or whatever were denounced as enemies of the people

 

Our judges making decisions

[Guest]

They have to be transferred before we can change them. A load of bollocks but that's how they work it.

 

 

Not quite.

 

We adopt them and improve them at our leisure. A l'aise.

 

Anyway, the pound is at a year high against the dollar.

[jayjayoghani]

That's not a law is it? It's one of the freedoms along with movement of goods, services and money

 

This isn't being transferred over with the rest of the laws

 

In terms of sovereignty, we had / have it - we can veto any laws we don't want / agree with

 

http://ec.europa.eu/social/main.jsp?catId=457

 

 

Free movement of workers is a fundamental principle of the Treaty enshrined in Article 45 of the Treaty on the Functioning of the European Union and developed by EU secondary legislation and the Case law of the Court of Justice.

 

 

Sounds like a law to me.

[birch-chorley]

Ok, so the day we leave the EU we transfer all laws over including the free movement of people?

 

So we will have left the EU but will still allow free movement of people even though we won't be in the EU and won't have free movement ourselves

 

All seems a bit strange

[Whites man]

I'm just waiting for the day the daily mail realises this country is fucked without unskilled eastern europeans

We can still get them and will be able to chose the grafters and send back the spongers. That's about the only benefit I see from all this.