L/H White Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Going down that route again. Looking at the odd result in isolation is hardly appropriate. I'd be intrigued to see these sorts of stats for all teams in a league over a whole season. As we have had a decent start teams may set up to frustrate us and we will need to be open teams up from time to time. Without looking, I'm guessing leicester had less possession throughout the season when they won the league Counter attack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Walkden White Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 This is an unbelievable start. Absolutely delighted and impossible not to enjoy what feels like our first great start for a long time! eggfuckingzackly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 Without looking, I'm guessing leicester had less possession throughout the season when they won the league Counter attack Maybe away. But towards the end of the season when flying high, few teams would have gone there and attacked at full throttle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites man Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Without looking, I'm guessing leicester had less possession throughout the season when they won the league Counter attack At the minute you see teams with a play from the back style dominate possession against more direct opponents but the number of chances created are roughly the same. It can be a worthless statistic unless you have an axe to grind with a particular manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 They are all worthless statistic, the only things that matters is you've got to score one more goal then them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I do wonder if the folk criticising Parky and how we played were the same ones who moaned Sam was boring, SKD was too slow, jay-jay never tackled back and gave Nolan shit. I guess they just a mind set Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I do wonder if the folk criticising Parky and how we played were the same ones who moaned Sam was boring, SKD was too slow, jay-jay never tackled back and gave Nolan shit. I guess they just a mind set I think its lots of things. There are a few, not on here, but elsewhere, who claim to support the club, but clearly enjoy it losing and struggling. Then I think there are the usual purists and teenage fantasists who watch more premier league than anything else and can't really get into their home town club grinding out results. Then there are the Rioch generation who started following us around then and can't accept that football is a different beast now. Or don't want to. Fans are odd - not just at our club. How many City fans can't really enjoy their current success because they aren't having the same experiences they had following them in the 70s or 80s. People want what they don't have often I think. Football fans are far less homogeneous than they once were. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 At the minute you see teams with a play from the back style dominate possession against more direct opponents but the number of chances created are roughly the same. It can be a worthless statistic unless you have an axe to grind with a particular manager. Or if poor quality football isn't your thing? I too am not a fan of passing around purely for the sake of it, it can be equally boring and unentertaining. There is a fundamental point though, that whilst you've got it, they can't score and you can. 30% possession is undeniably going to cost you at some point. Hopefully we have it within the team to be able to come from behind. We can all accept that our manager has worked with one hand behind his back, and that overall he has done well. That doesn't mean he's beyond reproach with some of the tactics and I personally don't 'enjoy' a lot of what is offered up. Sure I can accept it as a means to an end, but equally want to see some evolution- which I actually believe is happening. We all pay our money to watch and will see things differently, but that's the 'beauty' of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Or if poor quality football isn't your thing? I too am not a fan of passing around purely for the sake of it, it can be equally boring and unentertaining. There is a fundamental point though, that whilst you've got it, they can't score and you can. 30% possession is undeniably going to cost you at some point. Hopefully we have it within the team to be able to come from behind. We can all accept that our manager has worked with one hand behind his back, and that overall he has done well. That doesn't mean he's beyond reproach with some of the tactics and I personally don't 'enjoy' a lot of what is offered up. Sure I can accept it as a means to an end, but equally want to see some evolution- which I actually believe is happening. We all pay our money to watch and will see things differently, but that's the 'beauty' of the game. Highly subjective though isn't it. I quite enjoy physical, direct teams that upset the odds. Its harder to rattle the big boys playing the same game they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Highly subjective though isn't it. I quite enjoy physical, direct teams that upset the odds. Its harder to rattle the big boys playing the same game they do. If my team is winning I don't care if they play like current era man City, like 80s Wimbledon or the ultra defensive style loved by 90s Italian sides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
captainmed Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just to put some numbers on the great start. We were generally evens to be relegated before the season started. You can now get 4/1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted August 20, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 Or looking the other way, I had a fiver on promotion at 80/1, now around 33/1 or 40/1 depending on bookies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I do wonder if the folk criticising Parky and how we played were the same ones who moaned Sam was boring, SKD was too slow, jay-jay never tackled back and gave Nolan shit. I guess they just a mindless set EFA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 Highly subjective though isn't it. I quite enjoy physical, direct teams that upset the odds. Its harder to rattle the big boys playing the same game they do. Precisely, and as I've said before, don't mind a direct game, but go for it. Knock it long, with a degree of accuracy and get folk up to support. I also believe sjm has a decent eye for goal and would like to see a good few crosses going in, as per ameobi at West Bromwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I like winning and have never cared how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 We needlessly gave away so much possession in the second half Belt it out or just hoof it It wasn't down to tactics. It was nervousness If they had decent strikers they would have won. Plenty of teams in this division do They didn't. So they didn't but I don't think we should think were not in for a struggle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted August 20, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 Be honest, in all the games you've seen, how many victories were gained with a shit performance? Not too many. That isn't the issue though, but I can't be arsed keep going over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Alf Hartigan Posted August 20, 2018 Site Supporter Share Posted August 20, 2018 We needlessly gave away so much possession in the second half Belt it out or just hoof it It wasn't down to tactics. It was nervousness If they had decent strikers they would have won. Plenty of teams in this division do They didn't. So they didn't but I don't think we should think were not in for a struggle I agree, but on the back of our start I've gone from expecting us to go down to thinking mid to lower table. Cheery fucker that I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 20, 2018 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2018 Middlesbrough had 30 per cent v Bristol They won 2-0 Bet their fans moaned all the way home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I'm not knocking our points tally but just saying I'm not getting carried away as there's a lot of work that needs doing on the basics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gonk Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Middlesbrough had 30 per cent v Bristol They won 2-0 Bet their fans moaned all the way home Well they were going back to Smoggie Land, so they probably would moan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted August 20, 2018 Moderators Share Posted August 20, 2018 I think its lots of things. There are a few, not on here, but elsewhere, who claim to support the club, but clearly enjoy it losing and struggling. Then I think there are the usual purists and teenage fantasists who watch more premier league than anything else and can't really get into their home town club grinding out results. Then there are the Rioch generation who started following us around then and can't accept that football is a different beast now. Or don't want to. Fans are odd - not just at our club. How many City fans can't really enjoy their current success because they aren't having the same experiences they had following them in the 70s or 80s. People want what they don't have often I think. Football fans are far less homogeneous than they once were. I know one and he convinces himself City are still the underdog, up against it all the time and never do things the easy way, cos, you know, they're city (richest club in the world record breaking PL points tally City) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frank_spencer Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I know one and he convinces himself City are still the underdog, up against it all the time and never do things the easy way, cos, you know, they're city (richest club in the world record breaking PL points tally City)My city supporting mate is enjoying the ride before it all goes tits up in a spectacular city kind of way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 21, 2018 Members Share Posted August 21, 2018 My city supporting mate is enjoying the ride before it all goes tits up in a spectacular city kind of way. Don't expect it any time soon. I can see a period of domination coming akin to what those red bastards up the road did under whisky nose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Most of my city fan mates are now unbearable, uttering the same phrases that the DMB’s did in the 90’s They’ve become what they hated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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