bwfcfan5 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Our worst run also came with madine up front. We got relegated with him leading the line. Not a champions hip player in a million years, would love us to play against him sometime. We scored 3 on last day when ALF came on, scored 1, set up 2. Wilbraham scored the goal of the decade but if that game had to be replayed you would want ALF to start ahead of AW as we all would. I wouldn’t. I thought ALF was a waste of space most of last season. Great off the bench but as a starter did very little. A good impact sub and I thought the team picked last day was best we could do in the circumstances. Worked well. Should have picked Wilbraham sooner and it wouldn’t have gone to the last day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Our worst run also came with madine up front. We got relegated with him leading the line. Not a champions hip player in a million years, would love us to play against him sometime. We scored 3 on last day when ALF came on, scored 1, set up 2. Wilbraham scored the goal of the decade but if that game had to be replayed you would want ALF to start ahead of AW as we all would. I wouldn't, we were going down with Le Fondre starting upfront & picking Wilbrahim for the Forest game was proven to be the right choice. and....Parky was a genius for keeping us in the championship with Wilbrahim, Le Fondre & Walker as his choice of strikers........2 are now in the 4th division & the other had to go to the Australian pub league to get a game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 No one wants a shit load of possession. Just an end to giving the ball away for no reason. We really need to stop confusing the 2 Well said. Whenever I see that mad 60 seconds that kept us up, I am eternally grateful for that pass by a forest midfielder that was well over hit under no pressure. 20 seconds later AW was heading us to safety. A big difference between being like Silva or Messi and simply being able to weather a storm by putting a few passes together with composure. I'm certain Otzumer would improve us massively in that department. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I've never made someone a scapegoat in all my 40+ years following the Wanderers. Doesn't mean I haven't shown my frustration with a player at a particular time, or not rated one. In recent seasons we've had plenty I've not rated so wouldn't be easy picking a scapegoat out even if I was that way inclined. I know a fair bit about Will Buckley having watched him come through at Rochdale as a young lad. Not sure he's current Championship standard but he'd look better if he was played on the right, where he's at his best, and where he'd be in front of a better full back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Madine was very good in that period. He won us a lot of games with his all round performance. When he left we had nobody suitable to replace him with. That’s not anything other than plainly obvious. It's just opinions and mine is that we were held back by having a player up front with no pace and no shooting ability. Magennis is no world beater but just looks like he offers far more. We are no longer restricted in how we build attacks so we won't have 2 points after 11 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I wouldn't, we were going down with Le Fondre starting upfront & picking Wilbrahim for the Forest game was proven to be the right choice. and....Parky was a genius for keeping us in the championship with Wilbrahim, Le Fondre & Walker as his choice of strikers........2 are now in the 4th division & the other had to go to the Australian pub league to get a game. Parky signed 2 strikers that are now at Rochdale and Mansfield. And we are supposed to say that supports a theory he has a good eye for a player? You've lost me there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowack Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 and....Parky was a genius for keeping us in the championship with Wilbrahim, Le Fondre & Walker as his choice of strikers........2 are now in the 4th division & the other had to go to the Australian pub league to get a game. Spot on. Early indications are we have better players and I’m guessing a lower wage bill. Can’t complain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I wouldn’t. I thought ALF was a waste of space most of last season. Great off the bench but as a starter did very little. A good impact sub and I thought the team picked last day was best we could do in the circumstances. Worked well. Should have picked Wilbraham sooner and it wouldn’t have gone to the last day. That's 1 thing we agree on. We would have stopped up more comfortably if parky had picked a different forward line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I've never made someone a scapegoat in all my 40+ years following the Wanderers. Doesn't mean I haven't shown my frustration with a player at a particular time, or not rated one. In recent seasons we've had plenty I've not rated so wouldn't be easy picking a scapegoat out even if I was that way inclined. I know a fair bit about Will Buckley having watched him come through at Rochdale as a young lad. Not sure he's current Championship standard but he'd look better if he was played on the right, where he's at his best, and where he'd be in front of a better full back. He has the ability. But the issue is the number of injuries he’s had. If he were at his best he’d been amongst our best players. But injuries seem to have hurt him a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Parky signed 2 strikers that are now at Rochdale and Mansfield. And we are supposed to say that supports a theory he has a good eye for a player? You've lost me there. One was a 38 year old free transfer & the other was a cheap short term loan, which shows the market that Parky had to shop in, & by keeping us up with such limited players shows what a tremendous job he has done for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted August 19, 2018 Moderators Share Posted August 19, 2018 You're wasting your time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 That's 1 thing we agree on. We would have stopped up more comfortably if parky had picked a different forward line. HE HAD NO MONEY! And when Madine was sold he had less than 48 hours to get a replacement. Give it a rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) . Edited August 19, 2018 by Boothy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 20, 2018 Members Share Posted August 20, 2018 Feels like we finally have a squad equipped for the rigours of this division If we can finish mid table it will have been a greet season Words of wisdom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bolty58 Posted August 20, 2018 Members Share Posted August 20, 2018 You're wasting your time Think we all are. One of those 'pick a fight in a telephone box' types. FFS, we have won 2 aways and drawn 1 home game. I will repeat that in bold - we have won 2 aways and drawn 1 home game. Just contemplate that for a while; cast your mind back to the start of last season and, FFS, just enjoy the moments we have had so far. If you can't enjoy a start like that as a football (particularly BWFC) fan, find something else to whinge about. Miserable, moaning cunts need not apply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 One of the reasons we stayed up was the fact that so many teams were absolutely dog shit last season, realistically they should have relegated 4 or 5 teams just for being woeful (us included for large parts of it) Week after week the teams below us kept losing Not quite the miracle that’s being made out Don’t forget two of the teams we managed to get ahead of in the last 5 minutes of the season were Barnsley and Burton, it wasn’t the Premier League Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anewman Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Think this season will be about consolidation and trying to find a buyer. I get the impression Ken wants to make a quick buck so any decent offer will be snapped up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) I wouldn’t. I thought ALF was a waste of space most of last season. Great off the bench but as a starter did very little. A good impact sub and I thought the team picked last day was best we could do in the circumstances. Worked well. Should have picked Wilbraham sooner and it wouldn’t have gone to the last day.That’s because the manager continued to play a system that didn’t suit a 5ft 2 goal sniffer up top on his own. But let’s not go there again eh Edited August 20, 2018 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 That’s because the manager continued to play a system that didn’t suit a 5ft 2 goal sniffer up top on his own. But let’s not go there again eh We will still be going over it in 2028 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 You don't fall for that top scorer nonsense surely? If Wilbraham had been the only striker picked for 6 months, hardly ever got subbed and took pens and plenty free kicks, he would have been our 'irreplaceable' top scorer. Wilbraham leaves and suddenly the manager is a genius for just about getting enough points with ALF up front (although he had to shift Tyler Walker first). No thinking about you are right losing Madine was not an issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 One of the reasons we stayed up was the fact that so many teams were absolutely dog shit last season, realistically they should have relegated 4 or 5 teams just for being woeful (us included for large parts of it) Week after week the teams below us kept losing Not quite the miracle that’s being made out Don’t forget two of the teams we managed to get ahead of in the last 5 minutes of the season were Barnsley and Burton, it wasn’t the Premier League We stayed up because 3 teams had worse records than us. We stumbled over the line but the middle period of the season we were top half in terms of form and results. The reality is we will have shitty patches this season. I dread to think what it will be like in here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boothy Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 We had a good patch in the middle, hopefully the difference won't be acute this time round. Excellent start all round though and how refreshing it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 That’s because the manager continued to play a system that didn’t suit a 5ft 2 goal sniffer up top on his own. But let’s not go there again eh There isn't a way to play that suits that player without a big lad alongside him doing the donkey work. And again that would've meant playing Wilbraham. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwfcfan5 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 One of the reasons we stayed up was the fact that so many teams were absolutely dog shit last season, realistically they should have relegated 4 or 5 teams just for being woeful (us included for large parts of it) Week after week the teams below us kept losing Not quite the miracle that’s being made out Don’t forget two of the teams we managed to get ahead of in the last 5 minutes of the season were Barnsley and Burton, it wasn’t the Premier League That is always the case. When you stay up its because there are three worse teams. None of the relegated teams had the financial restrictions we had though. None were in embargo in the summer with serious restrictions on who they could sign. They all spent more than we did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ex_midlandwhite Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 The reality is we will have shitty patches this season. I dread to think what it will be like in here. I dread to think what it will be like if we lost on Wednesday, Parky out etc This is an unbelievable start. Absolutely delighted and impossible not to enjoy what feels like our first great start for a long time! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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