bwfcfan5 Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 37 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: We’re creating 2 shots on target per game and considering that we pretty much always concede your expecting us to have a 100% conversion rate to win a game of football. If your happy to back those odds with a ‘decent’ striker then good on you A good striker finds a way to create space and get on the end of things. They also hopefully contribute in the build up. We might aswell name 10 men as play Doidge in my view. Lads a trier but useless. Donaldson would be ok if he was 5 years younger. It wouldn't fix all our problems but its the major issue in our team. No regular goalscorers anywhere, either up front or in midfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted January 2, 2019 Author Share Posted January 2, 2019 Ameobi doesn’t seem interested either and he’s the one player we need a spark from Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted January 2, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Ameobi doesn’t seem interested either and he’s the one player we need a spark from Wouldn't surprise me to see him sold anytime soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalcolmW Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Wouldn't surprise me to see him sold anytime soon. Must be worth £6M for Cardff. He's even scored for them once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darrener Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 Didn't he just bring oz on and swapped his position with Vela who then dropped into Wilson role? If so then we'd probably still have got hammered anyway. Thankfully I didn't go so be happy to corrected, either way parky his a shit manager and should be potted not that he will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said: A good striker finds a way to create space and get on the end of things. They also hopefully contribute in the build up. We might aswell name 10 men as play Doidge in my view. Lads a trier but useless. Donaldson would be ok if he was 5 years younger. It wouldn't fix all our problems but its the major issue in our team. No regular goalscorers anywhere, either up front or in midfield. You told us Donaldson was good in the summer. I can't look further than that currently Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said: A good striker finds a way to create space and get on the end of things. They also hopefully contribute in the build up. We might aswell name 10 men as play Doidge in my view. Lads a trier but useless. Donaldson would be ok if he was 5 years younger. It wouldn't fix all our problems but its the major issue in our team. No regular goalscorers anywhere, either up front or in midfield. Apart from Donaldsons miss at the weekend, please give me a number of instances where Doidge, Magennis or Donaldson have had chances or even a chance to ‘get on the end of things’? Theres no fucker high enough up the pitch to supply. so we can’t even assess whether any of them are clinical enough. Ameobi nets a few but are all 25 yarders. That’s our only hope. So when PP refers to our front men “creating a bit of magic” that in my eyes is what he’s referring too. I wish he would create a bit of magic and somehow fathom a way of getting more than 2 of our players closer than 30 yards away from the opposition goal at any one point criticisng our strikers for not putting away chances we haven’t even created? Utter delusion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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tomski Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 11 minutes ago, Casino said: It's not even in my top 100 reasons to be pissed off with yesterday Some folk need to chill the fcuk out It sums up how disjointed the place is. It's more disappointing than anger I suppose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 2 hours ago, barrycowdrill said: Apart from Donaldsons miss at the weekend, please give me a number of instances where Doidge, Magennis or Donaldson have had chances or even a chance to ‘get on the end of things’? Theres no fucker high enough up the pitch to supply. so we can’t even assess whether any of them are clinical enough. Ameobi nets a few but are all 25 yarders. That’s our only hope. So when PP refers to our front men “creating a bit of magic” that in my eyes is what he’s referring too. I wish he would create a bit of magic and somehow fathom a way of getting more than 2 of our players closer than 30 yards away from the opposition goal at any one point criticisng our strikers for not putting away chances we haven’t even created? Utter delusion Absolutely spot on BC Kane would be struggling to hit double figures if he’d played up top for us every game this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 We have a regular goalscorer, who, if you watch his movement game to game, gets in the right positions. What he is not is a target man, who is going to knock centre halves about or hold the ball up and bring players in. Read his interview with Iles. He admits he didn't need to do half the physical graft and running about at Forest Green that Parky's asking of him as team was built to serve him. A lower level Jordan Rhodes if you like. Parky is misusing him and placing unrealistic demands on him. What was being expected of him yesterday was ridiculous. What we need is a good, solid target man. We haven't adequately replaced Madine, simple as. Magennis and Donaldson are nowhere near good enough Chris Martin isn't a world beater, far from it, but on Saturday he did a job for his team, being happy to have balls pinged into him, holding them up and bringing their quite talented three other front players into play. Assuming we could put out a team containing a few who could push a ball into a target man anything lower than head high, if that target man did his job and Doidge played off him, he would score goals. I know it won't happen, but, hypothetically, Madine back for rest of season and Doidge off him and we'd score enough to stay up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted January 2, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, Traf said: I was particularly baffled with the decision to bring a defender on at Ameobi's expense at 5-0 Just shows how totally clueless he is. His decisions have no rationale from game to game. I know a lot of the players are shite but he’s just a fucking idiot tactically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 12 minutes ago, ianofrochdale said: We have a regular goalscorer, who, if you watch his movement game to game, gets in the right positions. What he is not is a target man, who is going to knock centre halves about or hold the ball up and bring players in. Read his interview with Iles. He admits he didn't need to do half the physical graft and running about at Forest Green that Parky's asking of him as team was built to serve him. A lower level Jordan Rhodes if you like. Parky is misusing him and placing unrealistic demands on him. What was being expected of him yesterday was ridiculous. What we need is a good, solid target man. We haven't adequately replaced Madine, simple as. Magennis and Donaldson are nowhere near good enough Chris Martin isn't a world beater, far from it, but on Saturday he did a job for his team, being happy to have balls pinged into him, holding them up and bringing their quite talented three other front players into play. Assuming we could put out a team containing a few who could push a ball into a target man anything lower than head high, if that target man did his job and Doidge played off him, he would score goals. I know it won't happen, but, hypothetically, Madine back for rest of season and Doidge off him and we'd score enough to stay up. Completely agree. Problem is, we get a ‘decent’ target man and he won’t be used to compliment the other strikers he’ll be used instead of so we’re exactly where we were before. 2 up front sits in the realms of football fantasy or comic books where PP once read whistful stories of 2 players playing in partnership and thus scoring goals. But In real life it is a incomprehensible enigma which he is yet to fathom. Case & point... Magennis playing right fucking wing at points when he has come on the pitch Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 2, 2019 Site Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said: Completely agree. Problem is, we get a ‘decent’ target man and he won’t be used to compliment the other strikers he’ll be used instead of so we’re exactly where we were before. 2 up front sits in the realms of football fantasy or comic books where PP once read whistful stories of 2 players playing in partnership and thus scoring goals. But In real life it is a incomprehensible enigma which he is yet to fathom. Case & point... Magennis playing right fucking wing at points when he has come on the pitch Imagine PP managing a Walker/McGinlay pairing. He'd have one on the bench, in turns, to replace the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 1 minute ago, MickyD said: Imagine PP managing a Walker/McGinlay pairing. He'd have one on the bench, in turns, to replace the other. on the right wing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barrycowdrill Posted January 2, 2019 Share Posted January 2, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, MickyD said: Imagine PP managing a Walker/McGinlay pairing. He'd have one on the bench, in turns, to replace the other. McGinlays delivery wasn’t too bad from the right hand side to be fair.. but yeh absolutely Edited January 2, 2019 by barrycowdrill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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