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The problems stem from the top. PP needs going. I can't see this happening or it would of done by now. But I think it's becoming apparent working for KA would be hard work. If he doesn't react we will be 5mill down the shitter come next season which we know won't be good for anyone. What a mess

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To be fair to PP I get what he is trying to say here. However what he doesn’t seem to see is by setting us up to not give anything away we never fucking get anything and still give goals away!! 

As someone said above, that will be the last positive change he will ever make. He’ll revert to type, football will get even worse and we’ll get even less out of games. 

Everyone else can see there needs to be a middle ground between the 2. Why can’t he? 

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To be fair I was as surprised as anyone to see that change made and so early, very much out of character for PP. If Wilson was feeling a niggle he could have brought Olkowski on and moved Lowe into midfield, more in keeping with his usual plan of staying in it till late on then having a go. 

As others have said earlier, why so high risk in this game when he hasn't trusted Oz to do similar in home games against weaker opposition. 

The biggest problem we have is that we're in games but hardly win any because we're bereft of quality all over the pitch 

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49 minutes ago, ianofrochdale said:

The biggest problem we have is that we're in games but hardly win any because we're bereft of quality all over the pitch 

Or, as you also said and what is clear - he tries to keep us in a game until the final 20 minutes to a) pinch a winner hoping the other side haven’t broken us down yet or b) pinch an equaliser because we have been so defensive we haven’t allowed the other team to get 2 or 3 goals ahead and killed the game. 

Either way it’s completely naive, bordering on stupidity to expect that approach to work at this level more often than not. 

And I’m sorry, expecting people to turn out at all let alone in their droves to watch that pile of shit approach isn’t going to happen! 

Just by that decision he took with Oz shows he hasn’t one clue about how to be slightly more expansive. If he did he would’ve done it in a far more balanced way. Instead he went too far the opposite way. Too open, too top heavy and we got mullered for it. The fella hasn’t a fucking clue beyond ‘defend for your lives then try and nick something’ 

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Anyone with a brain who has watched us can see very clearly that as soon as a game opens up, either because we push on or through natural stretching of a game in the later stages we look far more likely to concede than we do to score. 

We have to try and stay in games. Our problem is a very simple one. Nobody can regularly sniff out a chance and score. So there is no real belief in the team that we'll win games. 

If we had a half decent striker we'd have beaten Stoke, drawn with Blackburn, beaten Wigan etc...we'd still have been bummed at Hull but we're a goalscorer away from relative safety.

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Oh, Im not saying its a conspiracy. But it will validate his cautious approach for many people. I think the injury to Wilson was the issue rather than him bringing Oz on.

Every game I go to when we go a goal down it feels like we may as well just go home as I just dont see us scoring. 

I do agree we need a goalscorer but given the predicament we're in financially I really don't see that happening. 

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8 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

Anyone with a brain who has watched us can see very clearly that as soon as a game opens up, either because we push on or through natural stretching of a game in the later stages we look far more likely to concede than we do to score. 

We have to try and stay in games. Our problem is a very simple one. Nobody can regularly sniff out a chance and score. So there is no real belief in the team that we'll win games. 

If we had a half decent striker we'd have beaten Stoke, drawn with Blackburn, beaten Wigan etc...we'd still have been bummed at Hull but we're a goalscorer away from relative safety.

We’re creating 2 shots on target per game and considering that we pretty much always concede your expecting us to have a 100% conversion rate to win a game of football. If your happy to back those odds with a ‘decent’ striker then good on you 

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37 minutes ago, barrycowdrill said:

We’re creating 2 shots on target per game and considering that we pretty much always concede your expecting us to have a 100% conversion rate to win a game of football. If your happy to back those odds with a ‘decent’ striker then good on you 

A good striker finds a way to create space and get on the end of things. They also hopefully contribute in the build up. We might aswell name 10 men as play Doidge in my view. Lads a trier but useless. Donaldson would be ok if he was 5 years younger.

It wouldn't fix all our problems but its the major issue in our team. No regular goalscorers anywhere, either up front or in midfield. 

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Didn't he just bring oz on and swapped his position with Vela who then dropped into Wilson role? If so then we'd probably still have got hammered anyway. Thankfully I didn't go so be happy to corrected, either way parky his a shit manager and should be potted not that he will. 

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1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

A good striker finds a way to create space and get on the end of things. They also hopefully contribute in the build up. We might aswell name 10 men as play Doidge in my view. Lads a trier but useless. Donaldson would be ok if he was 5 years younger.

It wouldn't fix all our problems but its the major issue in our team. No regular goalscorers anywhere, either up front or in midfield. 

You told us Donaldson was good in the summer. I can't look further than that currently :help:

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1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

A good striker finds a way to create space and get on the end of things. They also hopefully contribute in the build up. We might aswell name 10 men as play Doidge in my view. Lads a trier but useless. Donaldson would be ok if he was 5 years younger.

It wouldn't fix all our problems but its the major issue in our team. No regular goalscorers anywhere, either up front or in midfield. 

Apart from Donaldsons miss at the weekend, please give me a number of instances where Doidge, Magennis or Donaldson have had chances or even a chance to ‘get on the end of things’? 

Theres no fucker high enough up the pitch to supply. so we can’t even assess whether any of them are clinical enough. 

Ameobi nets a few but are all 25 yarders. That’s our only hope. So when PP refers to our front men “creating a bit of magic” that in my eyes is what he’s referring too. 

I wish he would create a bit of magic and somehow fathom a way of getting more than 2 of our players closer than 30 yards away from the opposition goal at any one point

criticisng our strikers for not putting away chances we haven’t even created? Utter delusion 

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