First game you saw in Division 3

[Casino]

It was at sheff utd

[paulhanley]

1 minute ago, dusan nikolic said:

I think from memory it was the following season , the 4-0 away at Sheffield United rings a bell.

Yeah just checked it out. A spell when it looked like a return to Div 4 was on the cards!

[dusan nikolic]

38 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Yeah just checked it out. A spell when it looked like a return to Div 4 was on the cards!

 

40 minutes ago, Casino said:

It was at sheff utd

Did either of you rate him when he played for us or was he well past his best?

[paulhanley]

1 minute ago, dusan nikolic said:

 

Did either of you rate him when he played for us or was he well past his best?

I barely saw him for Bolton, maybe Casino saw more. He had been a good un. My main memory of him is him getting England's equaliser v the Jocks in 79 at Wembley. We went on to win 3-1

[dusan nikolic]

23 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

I barely saw him for Bolton, maybe Casino saw more. He had been a good un. My main memory of him is him getting England's equaliser v the Jocks in 79 at Wembley. We went on to win 3-1

He only played 4 times plus 2 sub appearances for us , I suppose you can't really judge anybody on that , especially split over 2 seasons.

i'd be interested to know more about the events regarding the shirt throwing incident.

[Casino]

Can't remember him doing owt of note

My memory of him is in a city shirt, dummying pat Jennings and putting him on his backside

I think he just stropoed at Sheffield cos he felt he was too good to be getting subbed from a team in division 3

I hadn't seen anything to support his view

[dusan nikolic]

16 minutes ago, Casino said:

Can't remember him doing owt of note

My memory of him is in a city shirt, dummying pat Jennings and putting him on his backside

I think he just stropoed at Sheffield cos he felt he was too good to be getting subbed from a team in division 3

I hadn't seen anything to support his view

It must be hard when you have played for years at the top , and then you find yourself getting older and you just filter down the leagues .

[Traf]

1 hour ago, dusan nikolic said:

 

i'd be interested to know more about the events regarding the shirt throwing incident.

It was the rarely-spotted sky blue 3rd kit too IIRC

[jayjayoghani]

4 hours ago, Casino said:

Can't remember him doing owt of note

My memory of him is in a city shirt, dummying pat Jennings and putting him on his backside

I think he just stropoed at Sheffield cos he felt he was too good to be getting subbed from a team in division 3

I hadn't seen anything to support his view

From memory we were 2-0 down, and I thought Barnes our best player. Neal made the sub, bringing himself on as replacement.

So probably a bit of a cockjoust moment from Neal, and Barnes spat the dummy. 

[RUREADY2ROLL]

Well the first game was Oldham away - 2-2 and lots of trouble in their end with thousands of whites there.

Kicked of the train with another 3-400 hundred more somewhere between Manc and Bowton on the way back

[paulhanley]

The relegation season to Div 4 - 1986/7 - was pretty grim throughout, with the exception of a short run of results in late November/early December. During that run we beat York 3-1 at home thanks to a good goal by Asa Hartford and two poacher's goals by Tony Caldwell. Marco Gabbiadini - later to become infamous among Bolton fans for his crude challenge as a Derby player on Simon Coleman - wins and converts the York penalty

 

 

[dusan nikolic]

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

The relegation season to Div 4 - 1986/7 - was pretty grim throughout, with the exception of a short run of results in late November/early December. During that run we beat York 3-1 at home thanks to a good goal by Asa Hartford and two poacher's goals by Tony Caldwell. Marco Gabbiadini - later to become infamous among Bolton fans for his crude challenge as a Derby player on Simon Coleman - wins and converts the York penalty

 

 

Very good performance , Asa Hartford pulling the strings in the middle , plus a quality goal.

I remember that challenge by Gabbiadini on Simon Coleman , if I remember it was a live Sunday match , also remember Rioch charging on wanting to throttle him. We lost a good player , who if I remember was putting a real stamp on the team , at the time.

[BoltonBoy80]

22 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

Very good performance , Asa Hartford pulling the strings in the middle , plus a quality goal.

I remember that challenge by Gabbiadini on Simon Coleman , if I remember it was a live Sunday match , also remember Rioch charging on wanting to throttle him. We lost a good player , who if I remember was putting a real stamp on the team , at the time.

Simon Coleman.

will always be remembered for Burnley away for me. 

[paulhanley]

32 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

Very good performance , Asa Hartford pulling the strings in the middle , plus a quality goal.

I remember that challenge by Gabbiadini on Simon Coleman , if I remember it was a live Sunday match , also remember Rioch charging on wanting to throttle him. We lost a good player , who if I remember was putting a real stamp on the team , at the time.

Yes - and when he came back he was never quite the same! It was indeed a Sunday game. We were 0-1 up and ended up losing 2-1.

[dusan nikolic]

3 hours ago, paulhanley said:

Yes - and when he came back he was never quite the same! It was indeed a Sunday game. We were 0-1 up and ended up losing 2-1.

I think Mcateer scored in the first minute . In all the years going to Derby I think I have only seen us win once , a 2-1 win in the League cup in around 1999 , Johansen scored a last minute winner I think.

[Burndens Bogs]

Yeh i was at that game.Gabbiadini and Coleman went for a "50/50" that slightly favoured Gabbiadini who iirc got there a fraction before Coleman and booted the ball into touch as hard as he could, his deliberate ott follow through shattered Colemans leg - Gabbiadini knew exactly what he was doing. It was a horrendous nasty horrible bastard "tackle".

Hated Gabbiadini ever since, Simon Coleman was a lovely fella and he was looking like the real deal for us.

Edited May 23, 2019 by Burndens Bogs

[paulhanley]

Back to the sizzling summer of 1976. Bolton's third game of the 76/77 season was the tail end of August as the sun still shone. It was a season that ended in disappointment as for the second year on the run we narrowly missed out on promotion back to the top flight for the first time since the early 1960s. 

Early on at home to Millwall, we won 3-1 in front of the BBC cameras. Two of the lesser lights of 1970s Bolton Wanderers football scored - Steve Taylor (2) and Brian Smith with a freaky goal that was really a cross. 

You can hear the Millwall fans on this vid but they're never seen

 

[paulhanley]

Here's Halifax 1 Bolton 1 from the 1986/7 FA Cup First Round in November 1986. It's the first in a trilogy of games, with Bolton eventually winning through. Essentially we made a bit of a meal of seeing off a side a division below us. For younger viewers - there was no penalties at the end of a replay back in the day, ties just kept being replayed until there was an outcome!

Halifax have Phil Brown in their ranks two years before he signed for us -  and a lad called Rick Holden who went on to make his name with Oldham during their top flight glory days of the early 1990s. Their goal was scored by a young lad called David Longhurst who four years later sadly died on the pitch after suffering a heart attack while playing for York City against Lincoln.

Bolton's goal and the subsequent pitch invasion are already on You Tube. Hope you enjoy the rest of the game (despite the fact that the commentary seems to lag a few seconds behind the pictures) 

 

[dusan nikolic]

28 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

Here's Halifax 1 Bolton 1 from the 1986/7 FA Cup First Round in November 1986. It's the first in a trilogy of games, with Bolton eventually winning through. Essentially we made a bit of a meal of seeing off a side a division below us. For younger viewers - there was no penalties at the end of a replay back in the day, ties just kept being replayed until there was an outcome!

Halifax have Phil Brown in their ranks two years before he signed for us -  and a lad called Rick Holden who went on to make his name with Oldham during their top flight glory days of the early 1990s. Their goal was scored by a young lad called David Longhurst who four years later sadly died on the pitch after suffering a heart attack while playing for York City against Lincoln.

Bolton's goal and the subsequent pitch invasion are already on You Tube. Hope you enjoy the rest of the game (despite the fact that the commentary seems to lag a few seconds behind the pictures) 

 

Well we made hard work of that , I remember that day David Longhurst died it was really tragic.

I always loved the Red kit from the mid to late Eighties.

[paulhanley]

Just now, dusan nikolic said:

Well we made hard work of that , I remember that day David Longhurst died it was really tragic.

I always loved the Red kit from the mid to late Eighties.

Apart from one year when we had a green away strip it had been red all the way through the 70s and early 80s as well. 

We made hard work of the replay at Burnden as well. Before seeing them off back at The Shay. I am going to try to post those games soon when work and other stuff allows.

[paulhanley]

Bolton 1 Halifax 1 from the 1986/7 FA Cup. The second of the three games after the 1-1 draw at the Shay that I posted the other day. Tony Caldwell scores for us and the Halifax scorer is none other than Phil Brown, 18 months before he signed for us for £17,000. 

This is a proper old school cup tie, end to end, goalmouth thrills and spills, played on a muddy pitch and in torrential rain. The fact that we struggled to deal with a Fourth Division side was surely a portent of our relegation fate to come.

 

[paulhanley]

The last of the three FA Cup First Round games we played against Halifax in 1986/7. This is the second replay, a Monday night game when we finally saw the Shaymen off. After two 1-1 draws we won 1-3 away. Some of the camerawork in this isn't great and there's no commentary. Dave was obviously having a night off! 

 

[dusan nikolic]

1 hour ago, paulhanley said:

The last of the three FA Cup First Round games we played against Halifax in 1986/7. This is the second replay, a Monday night game when we finally saw the Shaymen off. After two 1-1 draws we won 1-3 away. Some of the camerawork in this isn't great and there's no commentary. Dave was obviously having a night off! 

 

An interesting trilogy of matches , from the highlights I think we deserved to win the last 2 matches. Asa Hartford certainly still looked a quality player.It was baffling why the goals seemed to dry up in the last 3rd of the season.

[paulhanley]

Just now, dusan nikolic said:

An interesting trilogy of matches , from the highlights I think we deserved to win the last 2 matches. Asa Hartford certainly still looked a quality player.It was baffling why the goals seemed to dry up in the last 3rd of the season.

When Liverpool had a bad run of form they often used to just go for the clean sheet. Maybe that's what Neal did - and it didn't work. Loads of 0-0 draws and low scoring games. We just didn't win enough of them.

[dusan nikolic]

15 minutes ago, paulhanley said:

When Liverpool had a bad run of form they often used to just go for the clean sheet. Maybe that's what Neal did - and it didn't work. Loads of 0-0 draws and low scoring games. We just didn't win enough of them.

Yes , perhaps his management inexperience showing through. How long after did he fetch in Mick Brown , I seem to remember a marked improvement when he was drafted in as assistant manager.