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2 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

Has he done summat to upset you? You seem very bitter

Nothing at all. I just know he is not very good at his highly paid job. Convince me otherwise. Just supporting FV. Doing what should have been done years ago.

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The Q&A on the academy changes all makes a lot of sense and Tobias seems to have a level head. Not dressing it up as all brilliant but a trade off between having the option for players to play U23s and get more experience and also the need to be getting people first team experience quicker. I like that. Its a call that's been made. Hope it pays off. 

I'm very unconvinced by McGinlay in a paid ambassador role though - these things to me just seem completely pointless ....

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He is coming aboard to cement the already strong relationship with the university’s sports courses and making them more valuable to us.

“He is also coming back to the club to assist us in an ambassadorial role, in a more meaningful way.

“It is a more formalised role and we hope he will be able to use his contacts with former players who might have been forgotten or not acknowledged in the right manner down the years. We want to try and bring them home. He is a legend and we think it’s a great appointment for us.”

Cementing a relationship with the University's sports courses - why? What is the aim? And why is John McGinlay - hardly a sports science expert - the person to do this? Bring former players "home" - sounds like nonsense to me. This sounds like bunging him a few quid to stop him talking nonsense on the radio and being a nuisance. Not convinced at all. If there is a real role here I imagine there are millions better qualified....

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1 hour ago, bwfcfan5 said:

The Q&A on the academy changes all makes a lot of sense and Tobias seems to have a level head. Not dressing it up as all brilliant but a trade off between having the option for players to play U23s and get more experience and also the need to be getting people first team experience quicker. I like that. Its a call that's been made. Hope it pays off. 

I'm very unconvinced by McGinlay in a paid ambassador role though - these things to me just seem completely pointless ....

Cementing a relationship with the University's sports courses - why? What is the aim? And why is John McGinlay - hardly a sports science expert - the person to do this? Bring former players "home" - sounds like nonsense to me. This sounds like bunging him a few quid to stop him talking nonsense on the radio and being a nuisance. Not convinced at all. If there is a real role here I imagine there are millions better qualified....

If you're complimenting the changes to the academy structure etc, then why not show the same backing to other measures?

Perhaps they feel SJM with his passion for the club fits in with an ambassadorial role. It's not like he's coaching or similar.

Ok SJM will have to curb his media comments etc, and that isn't a bad thing; will be interesting to see what happens if DL goes!

Time will tell as to whether these are the right moves, but for now we just have to give them a chance.

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10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

If you're complimenting the changes to the academy structure etc, then why not show the same backing to other measures?

Perhaps they feel SJM with his passion for the club fits in with an ambassadorial role. It's not like he's coaching or similar.

Ok SJM will have to curb his media comments etc, and that isn't a bad thing; will be interesting to see what happens if DL goes!

Time will tell as to whether these are the right moves, but for now we just have to give them a chance.

I back the owners it doesn't mean one has to do so unquestioningly over every single decision. There is little sense in my view behind this particular one though its minor in impact. Not sure that disagreeing with a particular move or decision equates to not backing - and also it would be really really really weird to not question things that as presented don't make sense for the sake of it....

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SJM to many is still a hero. He led the anti Anderson marches. Also for what he did as a player here he deserves a load of respect. Ok there has been a few mistakes since but still an all time great at the club. 
 

The academy changes now have been explained from a business and football perspective. Pretty sure there be impact on certain individuals but rightly not discussing that in public. Philips and Lee may be the biggest names but sure others too and they deserve to have that sorted in private as with any business. 

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For me, the telling thing was what they said about SJM connecting with former players who feel they've been wronged etc by the club. 

I'd expect to see 1 or 2 appearances doing draws from Campo, SKD amongst others. Perhaps hoping 1 or 2 of the old pros have a few quid stuffed down the back of a settee, good contacts within the game or contacts in business who are not short of a bob or 2. Explore all possible revenue avenues while bringing a feel good factor back (or trying to).

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3 minutes ago, Biggish Dave said:

For me, the telling thing was what they said about SJM connecting with former players who feel they've been wronged etc by the club. 

I'd expect to see 1 or 2 appearances doing draws from Campo, SKD amongst others. Perhaps hoping 1 or 2 of the old pros have a few quid stuffed down the back of a settee, good contacts within the game or contacts in business who are not short of a bob or 2. Explore all possible revenue avenues while bringing a feel good factor back (or trying to).

He's done one recently. I'm sure McGinlay has likes of Campo, Hierro and Djorkaeff on speed dial....

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20 minutes ago, bwfcfan5 said:

He's done one recently. I'm sure McGinlay has likes of Campo, Hierro and Djorkaeff on speed dial....

May not be your idea of an ambassador but he is a legend and has an infectious enthusiasm for the club. No doubt FV would rather have him inside in the tent pissing out rather than outside pissing in. Plus you might not see the point but i bet him turning up at hospitals,kids parties, retirements etc will make some fans day so why not? 

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Just now, snowball said:

May not be your idea of an ambassador but he is a legend and has an infectious enthusiasm for the club. No doubt FV would rather have him inside in the tent pissing out rather than outside pissing in. Plus you might not see the point but i bet him turning up at hospitals,kids parties, retirements etc will make some fans day so why not? 

It seems like a bit of a luxury in our current position - and the community building work is surely coordinated by a team of people who get the current first team out etc...

I'm not keen on the role itself - if you're going to have one McGinlay is probably fine - I just don't really see the point. You build links and community integration over a long period and through the actions of the club as a whole. But its not a huge issue. 

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1 hour ago, frank_spencer said:

It'll just be SJM and Zico rocking up at schools, community groups having a laugh with the kids and visiting sick kiddies in Bolton royal.

He's perfect for that role.

Zico had it made when he was was the supporters liaison officer. Basically went to away games got pissed and stood on the concourse 

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1 hour ago, Biggish Dave said:

For me, the telling thing was what they said about SJM connecting with former players who feel they've been wronged etc by the club. 

I'd expect to see 1 or 2 appearances doing draws from Campo, SKD amongst others. Perhaps hoping 1 or 2 of the old pros have a few quid stuffed down the back of a settee, good contacts within the game or contacts in business who are not short of a bob or 2. Explore all possible revenue avenues while bringing a feel good factor back (or trying to).

 

1 hour ago, snowball said:

May not be your idea of an ambassador but he is a legend and has an infectious enthusiasm for the club. No doubt FV would rather have him inside in the tent pissing out rather than outside pissing in. Plus you might not see the point but i bet him turning up at hospitals,kids parties, retirements etc will make some fans day so why not? 

This and this.

The more I think about SJM doing it, the more it makes sense.

As for jobs for the boys; pretty much every club seems to have old players involved in some way doing similar things. Might be talking to corporate guests or whatever, it's all part of the wider experience.

 

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14 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

Jobs for the boys 

With the restrcuturing of the coaching staff and likely a high number of ex players being moved on then I think its a wise move to have someone who resonates with the fanbase onboard and McGinlay fits that bill.   

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