deane koontz Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 ffs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 4, 2020 Share Posted June 4, 2020 11 minutes ago, deane koontz said: ffs Soz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deane koontz Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 7 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: Soz. I only cried a little 😭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ros Coe Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said: Because Nolan has had 2 jobs (Orient and Notts County), and arguably left both clubs in worse positions than he found them. Ricketts has had 2 jobs (Wrexham and Shrews) and has improved both clubs positions (and a decent cup run or 2). And listening to him talk gives confidence that he knows what he's doing, calm and assured. Kevin Nolan | Managerial record by team and tenure Team From To Record Ref. P W D L Win % Leyton Orient 21 January 2016 12 April 2016 15 7 2 6 46.7 [67][73][107] Notts County 12 January 2017 26 August 2018 84 35 23 26 41.7 [108] Total 99 42 25 32 42.4 Sam Ricketts | Managerial record by team and tenure Team From To Record P W D L Win % Wrexham 2 May 2018 3 December 2018 24 13 8 3 54.2 Shrewsbury Town 3 December 2018 Present 78 23 28 27 29.5 Total 102 36 36 30 35.3 I don’t think the above records back up what you say about either Nolan or Ricketts managerial careers! I also think Nolan was harshly treated at both Orient & Notts. Edited June 5, 2020 by Ros Coe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 18 hours ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: I don't want us to appoint Nolan, although I think you're being unfair on his managerial record. The point is that if Nolan would be a gamble then surely so would Ricketts. I was impressed by his demeanour and how his team operated when they played us, and like you I suspect he has something about him, but he's barely two years into his managerial career. (And if I were to be as harsh in my argument as you are with Nolan, I might point out that Shrewsbury Town are currently one place lower than they were when he took over 🙂) I agree I was being a bit harsh on Nolan, and I bow to your greater knowledge of Shrewsbury's respective league positions! But Ricketts comes across, with his greater experience as well as demeanour, as an "established" manager with at least a reasonable track record. Kev comes across as a rookie so far, he may be a good manager in the making but he feels like more of a gamble than Ricketts at this stage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 10 hours ago, Ros Coe said: Kevin Nolan | Managerial record by team and tenure Team From To Record Ref. P W D L Win % Leyton Orient 21 January 2016 12 April 2016 15 7 2 6 46.7 [67][73][107] Notts County 12 January 2017 26 August 2018 84 35 23 26 41.7 [108] Total 99 42 25 32 42.4 Sam Ricketts | Managerial record by team and tenure Team From To Record P W D L Win % Wrexham 2 May 2018 3 December 2018 24 13 8 3 54.2 Shrewsbury Town 3 December 2018 Present 78 23 28 27 29.5 Total 102 36 36 30 35.3 I don’t think the above records back up what you say about either Nolan or Ricketts managerial careers! I also think Nolan was harshly treated at both Orient & Notts. Good stats, fair point, I admit I thought Shrewsbury were a bit higher in the table till I just checked! I would say the Notts County stint for Nolan was at a club that was expected to do well in that division (as with Wrexham for Ricketts); Shrewsbury arent expected to compete at the top end of Div 1 realistically. Anyway I'll take it back based purely on stats, and leave it that its my hunch that Ricketts will make a decent lower level manager. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Nolan was terrific for us and who knows he may cut it, however I wouldn’t want to take that chance and him become another bad appointment and potentially get dogs and a shit load of grief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 looks like time is up https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18512289.bolton-ready-make-decision-keith-hills-future-manager/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 That reads like it's pretty much certain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted June 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 minute ago, Marc505 said: That reads like it's pretty much certain. Yep, Iles & Hill chatting at the Dulux store. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Aye sounds like he’s clearing is desk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 12, 2020 5 hours ago, Mr Grey said: Im gonna miss the shit peaky blinder chino wearing onion peeling fucker. Tactics 1/10 Clobber 0/10 Onions 0/10 Harsh. He might actually know his onions! Certainly had me in tears some of the time... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Ringing endorsement for Hill and Flitcroft from Craig Davies in a BA article. I think we need a fresh start though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 8 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Ringing endorsement for Hill and Flitcroft from Craig Davies in a BA article. I think we need a fresh start though. worth a punt? released by mansfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 10 minutes ago, Farrelli said: Ringing endorsement for Hill and Flitcroft from Craig Davies in a BA article. I think we need a fresh start though. Interesting first impression he had of Hill. That chimes with a few things I've heard previously Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted June 12, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 12, 2020 We don't have the time for Hill to piss people off for 12 months before they finally think he's a reasonable sort of character. The club is going downhill, has been for some time and needs to slam on the brakes before we end up going any lower. Get rid and sooner rather than later Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 29 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said: worth a punt? released by mansfield I would take him back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Could be more down to cost cutting getting rid of hill and flitcroft then giving the job to some one already at the club David lee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Farnywhite said: Could be more down to cost cutting getting rid of hill and flitcroft then giving the job to some one already at the club David lee Hope not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 1 hour ago, Farnywhite said: Could be more down to cost cutting getting rid of hill and flitcroft then giving the job to some one already at the club David lee Can't see that being the case, they were probably on peanuts to start with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 20 minutes ago, DomRepWanderer said: Can't see that being the case, they were probably on peanuts to start with. For sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted June 12, 2020 Moderators Share Posted June 12, 2020 It doesn't matter who you give it to, within reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 I think it'll be Brown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 7 minutes ago, Horwich said: It doesn't matter who you give it to, within reason. I agree. There are good managers and bad managers, but even the good ones struggle to improve things if the resources aren't available. The majority of them, though, are average and do a decent enough job with what they have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 12, 2020 Share Posted June 12, 2020 Gone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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