Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 15, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 During the Sam Allardyce years Bolton were fairly early in the advent of individual performance coaching. We saw BSA take all his Performance Coaches up to Newcastle with him and I assume on to other clubs he managed but did the new science based approach to football coaching take off elsewhere? Are the top clubs now using Bolton's model? This came up in a discussion and I have no idea which teams use new methods and which use old. Or is it more to do with what the managers want? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 15, 2020 Members Share Posted January 15, 2020 A lot of the NFL teams were miles ahead in terms of sport science, and conditioning. It’s in almost every club in the PL, Burnley are still a bit old school. I think it’s based on the manager and the staffing budgets at the clubs because the more in-depth technology a club uses the more staff they need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted January 15, 2020 Author Site Supporter Share Posted January 15, 2020 20 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: A lot of the NFL teams were miles ahead in terms of sport science, and conditioning. It’s in almost every club in the PL, Burnley are still a bit old school. I think it’s based on the manager and the staffing budgets at the clubs because the more in-depth technology a club uses the more staff they need. Yes, we saw the TV on top of the bar under the away end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted January 15, 2020 Members Share Posted January 15, 2020 1 hour ago, Rudy’s Message said: A lot of the NFL teams were miles ahead in terms of sport science, and conditioning. Sam was on talksport talking about this earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 He was well ahead of the game when here, but everyone caught up and he stood still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannyroader Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Wenger might have been first at Arsenal, controlling diets and giving all the squad injections of legal supplements. This was 2nd half of the 90s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Rudy’s Message said: A lot of the NFL teams were miles ahead in terms of sport science, and conditioning. It’s in almost every club in the PL, Burnley are still a bit old school. I think it’s based on the manager and the staffing budgets at the clubs because the more in-depth technology a club uses the more staff they need. You've not been to Barnfield in a while... https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/teams/first-team/management/mark-howard/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 16, 2020 Members Share Posted January 16, 2020 (edited) 32 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said: You've not been to Barnfield in a while... https://www.burnleyfootballclub.com/teams/first-team/management/mark-howard/ Yeah in terms of PL they’re still a bit behind. What they have is pretty standard stuff, and most clubs have a team of sports scientists and sports doctors with equipment that looks like you’d find it on the ISS. The coaching side of it as well is still a bit old school at Burnley but from what I understand that’s Dyche training methods, and he moves with the times but doesn’t want to completely lose that feeling. Edited January 16, 2020 by Rudy’s Message Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 4 minutes ago, Rudy’s Message said: Yeah in terms of PL they’re still a bit behind. What they have is pretty standard stuff most clubs have a team of sports scientists and sports doctors with equipment that looks like you’d find it on the ISS. The coaching side of it as well is still a bit old school at Burnley but from what I understand that’s Dyche training methods, and he moves with the times but doesn’t want to completely lose that feeling. Dyches 'Endurance Day' is untouchable 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 16, 2020 Members Share Posted January 16, 2020 Just now, Dr Faustus said: Dyches 'Endurance Day' is untouchable 😂 He still eats worms fact Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benny The Ball Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The Question "Were Bolton first" is one that can be applied in various scenarios - but came across this a while ago as it relates to us as fans and I reckon is probably a first Hopefully someone might find this interesting in these times of lockdown Was reading a book " The Lads of 23 "and there was a section in there about fans journeys to the 1923 cup final. Tells tales of West Ham fans walking to the game , with most Bolton fans travelling by train etc But one thing that caught my eye was that its reported that a group of Wanderers fans ( 5 in total ) actually caught a plane and flew down from Manchester to London for the match I did not even know things were possible at that time Did a bit of reading up on this and found out that they flew from the Alexandra Park Aerodrome ( which was located just off Princess Road heading towards West Didsbury ) to Croydon Airport on a scheduled flight What makes me think this is a first for football fans of any club is that the service had only started at the back end of 1922 and was operated by Daimler Airways The planes took 2 hours to get there Anyway there you go - Bolton Wanderers first fans to ever fly to a football match ! And I suppose it begs the question as to what obscure forms of transport folks have used to travel to away games by ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 I once caught a Northern Rail service that wasn't cancelled and was on time. Now, that's obscure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted April 6, 2020 Members Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Traf said: I once caught a Northern Rail service that wasn't cancelled and was on time. Now, that's obscure. You filthy liar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 You what! You what! You what! You what! You what, eh! This chant to opposition fans was started by us. Crystal Palace away in the FA Cup to be precise. It makes me very sad that the 'eh' at the end has been dropped. It's very Bolton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dusan nikolic Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 The Big Sam Interview Ronnie put on here earlier in the week , in it he goes quite in depth about the Science side at Bolton. Worth a watch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Were Bolton Wanderers; first at everything In the original 12 league The first Sunday game And this Plus we do what we want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted April 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted April 6, 2020 First sub ever was at Burnden Park. Keith Peacock for Charlton. I was there. 👦 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: Were Bolton Wanderers; first at everything In the original 12 league The first Sunday game And this Plus we do what we want The first Sunday game was shared with a couple of other clubs, wasn’t it? No idea if we kicked off earlier or anything like that. First televised league game in the UK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Steejay said: First sub ever was at Burnden Park. Keith Peacock for Charlton. I was there. 👦 Your right 1952 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 48 minutes ago, Benny The Ball said: The Question "Were Bolton first" is one that can be applied in various scenarios - but came across this a while ago as it relates to us as fans and I reckon is probably a first Hopefully someone might find this interesting in these times of lockdown Was reading a book " The Lads of 23 "and there was a section in there about fans journeys to the 1923 cup final. Tells tales of West Ham fans walking to the game , with most Bolton fans travelling by train etc But one thing that caught my eye was that its reported that a group of Wanderers fans ( 5 in total ) actually caught a plane and flew down from Manchester to London for the match I did not even know things were possible at that time Did a bit of reading up on this and found out that they flew from the Alexandra Park Aerodrome ( which was located just off Princess Road heading towards West Didsbury ) to Croydon Airport on a scheduled flight What makes me think this is a first for football fans of any club is that the service had only started at the back end of 1922 and was operated by Daimler Airways The planes took 2 hours to get there Anyway there you go - Bolton Wanderers first fans to ever fly to a football match ! And I suppose it begs the question as to what obscure forms of transport folks have used to travel to away games by ... This is brilliant, how the fuck I didn’t know about this I don’t know. Great detective work on the flight, be very interested to know more about the blokes who flew down and get the background on them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted April 6, 2020 Members Share Posted April 6, 2020 I’ve been a football coach ten years now and how far it has come is incredible. One of my jobs used to be filling up a bath full of ice to help with recovery. Now we use a machine that NASA use for their astronauts to speed up recoveries. Diets used to be chicken and pasta. Steak and rice. Now it’s vegan diets, just red meat diets and no carb diets. Injuries are down, lengths on the sidelines are down. Footballers are super athletes now. Weight has to be maintained and monitored closely, if you’re slightly overweight now, you don’t play or even train with the rest of I can’t pass a player for making weight I get pulled for it. (Samir Nasri is the laziest player i have ever experienced) Fitness training exceeds ball training, when I first started fitness was voluntary and i would do private sessions for maybe 6 guys, now I will do a session of up to 40 players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 6, 2020 We ought to have been the first with shirt advertising Think it was with euroway, but it dragged on and didnt happen Were everton the first, with hafnia? Also, no cheating what do/did hafnia do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted April 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted April 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Leyther_Matt said: The first Sunday game was shared with a couple of other clubs, wasn’t it? No idea if we kicked off earlier or anything like that. First televised league game in the UK We were 3pm Pretty sure it was orient, definitely london, kicked off at dinner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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