Coronavirus

[radcliffe white]

It’s bollocks like I said other day folk are pushing and shoving in supermarkets and handling food but restaurants are potentially closing

went out last night and it was faultless (apart from the bill) only problem is some places won’t play ball if that’s the case close them 

 

[Lt. Aldo Raine]

9 minutes ago, Marc505 said:

I agree with this, feels like the country has been arguing with eachother for about 5 years now non stop, fucking bored of it.

Social media to blame IMO

[Rudy]

First time I’ve taken my daughter to the shops since the beginning of Lockdown because I had no other choice,  people are still in shops not wearing masks, it’s mind blowing, my daughter wore one , 3 year old and happy to wear one. 
 

If you don’t wear one, you can’t go in, if you’re exempt then stay at home.

[Zico]

10 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

It’s bollocks like I said other day folk are pushing and shoving in supermarkets and handling food but restaurants are potentially closing

 

Shut supermarkets, make every one eat out or via just eat

[Marc505]

4 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said:

Social media to blame IMO

I hate not being able to disconnect from it, its damaging to so many aspects of life yet still an invaluable source of information and news that isnt available anywhere else.

[Guest]

28 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

It’s bollocks like I said other day folk are pushing and shoving in supermarkets and handling food but restaurants are potentially closing

went out last night and it was faultless (apart from the bill) only problem is some places won’t play ball if that’s the case close them 

 

Showing on Sky news that pubs to close, but not restaurants.

[MickyD]

2 hours ago, boltondiver said:

Who should get the vaccine first?

Utd fans should be last

We’ll need people to test other new medication too. I firmly believe that a mixture of 30% cyanide, 45% strychnine, 25% weed killer will irradiate Covid19. 
 

Next!

Edited October 10, 2020 by MickyD

[Mounts Kipper]

49 minutes ago, Spider said:

It’s turned into Brexit

People simply wont want to change their opinion as they feel it somehow makes them look weak.

Its a changing situation. We need to assess it day to day.

i know a few more people who’ve tested positive. So we’re only heading in one direction right now

Don’t hide away, crack on. 

[kent_white]

I hear from friends in high places that the vaccine is on the way. It's the logistics of dispensing it which is the major headache at the moment.....

[Zico]

55 minutes ago, Casino said:

Birch, youre wasting your time

You have an opinion, the tread carefully lot have theirs

Im much nearer to you, as like i say, it could be no vaccine and covid, 20,21 and 22 incoming

But nobody is changing their position on this

Nobody on either 'side'

This is no life and im sick to the back teeth of working all week then hiding away

Too old for it all

To be fair, its the crack on and let it spread brigade that are wasting their time, as that isn't happening

I disagree with the curfew and current restrictions too

[Marc505]

4 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I hear from friends in high places that the vaccine is on the way. It's the logistics of dispensing it which is the major headache at the moment.....

And storing it, and keeping it secure from people who might want it long before they're supposed to! Going to be a huge few months.

[radcliffe white]

18 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

Showing on Sky news that pubs to close, but not restaurants.

For me apart from the masks going toilets the restaurant experience is no difference so good if the case 

[birch-chorley]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

It’s turned into Brexit

People simply wont want to change their opinion as they feel it somehow makes them look weak.

Its a changing situation. We need to assess it day to day.

i know a few more people who’ve tested positive. So we’re only heading in one direction right now

I’m not sure, I’d say Brexit was about 40% either side entrenched with 20% in the middle undecided 

This has a lot more people in the middle for me, i was one of them. Back in March it was all about Saving the NHS, they were ill prepared for it and needed the time to get themselves together. Only a small % of people opposed the restrictions early doors, the furlough scheme appeased many. 

However the longer it goes on, the more jobs that are flushed down the toilet the more people will oppose the restrictions and the impact its having on the economy 

The tides turning 

Edit... just had a look and 90% supported lockdown restrictions in March, support currently at 70% according to Ipsos Mori, with half of those classed as ‘somewhat supportive’. Let’s see what that looks like when 3m have lost their jobs and can’t pay the mortgage 

Edited October 10, 2020 by birch-chorley

[Zico]

speaking to my mum just now

her mate's granddaughter, just started at Liverpool Uni, on an art course, shares a flat with 2 other girls

she does an art course, so it all can't be done online and requires some classes / contact

she caught it there

once her flat mates found out, they've gone home!!!  

another family she knows - son has got it, no symptons, mum has got it, got the runs, dad has got it, in a bad way 

so unpredictable

[Tombwfc]

1 hour ago, birch-chorley said:

Come on, don’t be daft, like most of these things the government would be asking for adherence rather than getting restaurant staff to impose it. Most would adhere to the rules, some won’t 

As things stand we will be in a bizarre situation where a 21 year old from ‘the North’ (who has a 1 in a 100,000 chance of dying from Covid) can’t go into their local pub as they are shut, yet 5 miles to ‘the South’ a 90 year old with pre existing conditions (who has a 1 in 5 chance of dying from Covid) can go to their local 

anyone who thinks it’s impractical to ask the vulnerable groups to shield needs their heads testing IMO 

 

There must be a few on here who fall into the category of being over 60, clinically obese, asthmatic or have some other underlying condition. Or live with someone who is. Or have family/friends who are.

Does anybody seriously think 'most' of those people would happily adhere to locking themselves away/not able to go to the pub/match/see friends and family - for the next 12 months? While everyone else goes back to normal?

Show of hands? 

[birch-chorley]

9 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

There must be a few on here who fall into the category of being over 60, clinically obese, asthmatic or have some other underlying condition. Or live with someone who is. Or have family/friends who are.

Does anybody seriously think 'most' of those people would happily adhere to locking themselves away/not able to go to the pub/match/see friends and family - for the next 12 months? While everyone else goes back to normal?

Show of hands? 

If they’d rather nobody be able to go the pub or a restaurant just because they shouldn’t, knowing that millions of jobs depend on it then I’d suggest that’s selfish 

[Leyther_Matt]

1 hour ago, boltondiver said:

Showing on Sky news that pubs to close, but not restaurants.

As Sturgeon has discovered, it’s pretty difficult to make a differentiation between the two. 

[Tombwfc]

3 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

If they’d rather nobody be able to go the pub or a restaurant just because they shouldn’t, knowing that millions of jobs depend on it then I’d suggest that’s selfish 

 

Isn't the suggestion that millions of people don't, and allow you to crack on completely normally, a bit selfish? 

Of all the people offering it as the obvious solution, I haven't seen any that would also consider themselves vulnerable and therefore have to take on the restrictions they're suggesting.

I'm also not convinced that - even if you could remove all these people and those who live with them - that pubs/restaurants would be any better off than they were under the August/September restrictions. We're talking a significant % of the country.

[Spider]

1 hour ago, kent_white said:

I hear from friends in high places that the vaccine is on the way. It's the logistics of dispensing it which is the major headache at the moment.....

Huge

Surely no price can be higher than sustaining a flagging economy?

Everything should be thrown at sorting the logistics

[Zico]

5 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Isn't the suggestion that millions of people don't, and allow you to crack on completely normally, a bit selfish? 

Of all the people offering it as the obvious solution, I haven't seen any that would also consider themselves vulnerable and therefore have to take on the restrictions they're suggesting.

I'm also not convinced that - even if you could remove all these people and those who live with them - that pubs/restaurants would be any better off than they were under the August/September restrictions. We're talking a significant % of the country.

I reckon if you just shut Whetherspoons and anywhere that sells mild, it would instantly mean a load of old, obese and vunerable would be out of the equation

the young uns can still go to bars with loud music and stuff

[Guest]

55 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

There must be a few on here who fall into the category of being over 60, clinically obese, asthmatic or have some other underlying condition. Or live with someone who is. Or have family/friends who are.

Does anybody seriously think 'most' of those people would happily adhere to locking themselves away/not able to go to the pub/match/see friends and family - for the next 12 months? While everyone else goes back to normal?

Show of hands? 

I’m 60, so nearly over 60.

if it helped the country and I was asked to keep myself to myself, I would

[Casino]

1 hour ago, Spider said:

Huge

Surely no price can be higher than sustaining a flagging economy?

Everything should be thrown at sorting the logistics

Not a job id trust this shower of shit with

[Tonge moor green jacket]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

I hear from friends in high places that the vaccine is on the way. It's the logistics of dispensing it which is the major headache at the moment.....

Presumably its the Oxford one (needs to be kept cold)?

[Casino]

2 hours ago, kent_white said:

I hear from friends in high places that the vaccine is on the way. It's the logistics of dispensing it which is the major headache at the moment.....

On the way?

Weeks, months, years?

If it was owt like imminent, this whole .ockdown would be presented in a different way, imo

Something like, be patient, give us a few more weeks say... if it was presented like that, on a timeline of say, til december, you would get better buy in

As it is, i know many, many generally law abiding folk wont be following all the rules 

And thats a cherry topped FACT

[wiggy]

2 hours ago, birch-chorley said:

Let’s see what that looks like when 3m have lost their jobs and can’t pay the mortgage 

Looking increasingly likely that we are going to have to close down the business I’ve spent the last 21 years helping to build. Not even the slightest clue what I’ll do if that happens. Does that mean I’m now in favour of giving up on trying to control the virus? Does it fuck. I’d rather give my Mum, Dad and Father in law the best chance of staying alive thanks very much.

People talk a lot about the mental health issues this crisis is causing. They are horrible and people clearly need a lot of help. But imagine the long term impact of living in the knowledge that you didn’t do everything you could to protect the vulnerable from the virus.