Members burnden Posted December 23, 2020 Members Share Posted December 23, 2020 Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has submitted its full data package to the MHRA for approval? I thought that had been done ages ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said: 2 new variants in a week might be what determines the tiers we are in next year, rather than the number vaccinated If the vaccine doesn’t stop the new strain and it’s back to square 1 then I doubt we will carry on as we have for another year no chance Hopefully it still works, no reason to think otherwise thus far? edit, just discussed at the press conference, no reason to think it won’t work Edited December 23, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jol_BWFC Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 9 minutes ago, mickbrown said: This sign language bloke is very entertaining Looks like a young Dara O Briain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Hopefully once this Oxford vaccine gets signed off things should seriously move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Jol_BWFC said: Looks like a young Dara O Briain. Aye he does. Also looks a bit like Tony Slattery, which just makes me think he's taking the piss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ani Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 12 minutes ago, burnden said: Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has submitted its full data package to the MHRA for approval? I thought that had been done ages ago. Yeah he got very excited about announcing that. I thought he was going to say it was good to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted December 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2020 Covaids Thanks, you racist cunts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 23, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: If the vaccine doesn’t stop the new strain and it’s back to square 1 then I doubt we will carry on as we have for another year no chance Hopefully it still works, no reason to think otherwise thus far? edit, just discussed at the press conference, no reason to think it won’t work I haven't seen anything to suggest it won't work was along the lines if new variants spread quicker, then they may keep us in higher tiers to curb the spread, regardless of who has been vaccinated, as there may no point opening back up if folk are needing hospital treatment twice as fast or whatever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 21 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Hopefully once this Oxford vaccine gets signed off things should seriously move Port Vale away 13th March? Still chuckle about you holding out hope of making it to Oxford away back in May, right at the peak of national lockdown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, birch-chorley said: Port Vale away 13th March? Still chuckle about you holding out hope of making it to Oxford away back in May, right at the peak of national lockdown 1 You ain’t going to let that go are you😀 Still got a spare seat just for you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, ZicoKelly said: I haven't seen anything to suggest it won't work was along the lines if new variants spread quicker, then they may keep us in higher tiers to curb the spread, regardless of who has been vaccinated, as there may no point opening back up if folk are needing hospital treatment twice as fast or whatever Once 15m have been vaccinated and 99% of the risk has gone, it won’t matter if a new variant comes out that spreads 10x as fast. 15m vaccinated is the end of the road for restrictions. Can’t see is going from Tier 4 to nothing. Likely we will move down the Tiers as the risk to the NHS decreases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members burnden Posted December 23, 2020 Members Share Posted December 23, 2020 744 Deaths - 39237 new cases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 51 minutes ago, burnden said: Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccine has submitted its full data package to the MHRA for approval? I thought that had been done ages ago. No mate, they've been struggling to get it to this stage, hopefully the Mhra min approve it soon, but it might take a week or so. If they don't approve it we may be up shit creek for a little while longer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 (edited) The vaccine isn't likely to be 100% effective and definitely not in the over 65s, look at the flu one as an example which doesn't get above 60% hit rate in that age group usually. Really not sure it's going to be the golden bullet people are hoping for. Edited December 23, 2020 by ErnestTurnip Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted December 23, 2020 Moderators Share Posted December 23, 2020 14 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Once 15m have been vaccinated and 99% of the risk has gone, it won’t matter if a new variant comes out that spreads 10x as fast. 15m vaccinated is the end of the road for restrictions. Can’t see is going from Tier 4 to nothing. Likely we will move down the Tiers as the risk to the NHS decreases aye, though Tier 4 didn't exist till this new strain was announced, so who knows being a pessimist, I won't be dissapointed what comes next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 1 minute ago, ErnestTurnip said: The vaccine isn't likely to be 100% effective and definitely not in the over 65s, look at the flu one as an example which doesn't get above 60% hit rate in that age group usually. Really not sure it's going to be the golden bullet people are hoping for. I don't think anybody sensible think it'll be so effective do they? - if it's upwards of 75% then that's good enough though for us to move forwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErnestTurnip Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 I honestly think they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 5 minutes ago, ErnestTurnip said: The vaccine isn't likely to be 100% effective and definitely not in the over 65s, look at the flu one as an example which doesn't get above 60% hit rate in that age group usually. Really not sure it's going to be the golden bullet people are hoping for. They have quoted 90%+ haven’t they? Appreciate that the Flu vaccine is different, but isn’t that down to having multiple different strains that require different vaccinations? Covid doesn’t require multiple different vaccines as things stand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MancWanderer Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Not in Crawley said: Just got this text, anyone else got one like it from their local NHS? The first phase of the NHS Covid-19 vaccination programme has begun in Bromley. You will be contacted when you become eligible. Please do NOT contact the practice to get an appointment. Your support is appreciated to keep phone lines open for people who need to make appointments for other health matters. Been receiving all sorts of texts. Current tier status, advice on how to stop the spread of Covid and one very similar to yours. All came from the doctors surgery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted December 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2020 just done the "when will you get the vaccine "calculator. there are 20,500,000 in front of me, early june. no doubt more holiday cancellations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: They have quoted 90%+ haven’t they? Appreciate that the Flu vaccine is different, but isn’t that down to having multiple different strains that require different vaccinations? Covid doesn’t require multiple different vaccines as things stand Yes 90% which is decent. I think the Oxford/AZ is reported at between 60%~90%, which is why it's taking a while Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, victor meldrew said: just done the "when will you get the vaccine "calculator. there are 20,500,000 in front of me, early june. no doubt more holiday cancellations. You'll be able to book that cruise with @Casino soon enough I reckon..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 Just now, Mr Grey said: Cruise...s on hold Jane McDonald programs will be on be reet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 23, 2020 Share Posted December 23, 2020 3 minutes ago, Sweep said: Yes 90% which is decent. I think the Oxford/AZ is reported at between 60%~90%, which is why it's taking a while If it comes down to that, you’d like to think the Pfizer one at 90% is given to the most vulnerable / biggest risk then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter victor meldrew Posted December 23, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 23, 2020 yep and cyprus as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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