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4 minutes ago, boltondiver said:

My point was that there is little heard of relatives moaning after a death. 
 

Remarkably little, unless all that is to come afterwards.

what in the news?  hardly worth it is it, everyone is in the same boat and ICUs are overloaded, and there still isn't a vaccine

but the way in which some cases have been handled is a disgrace - sending folks from care homes into hospitals without a test for example when it turns out they didn't have it in the first place

most of the ones I know who have lost someone are quite vocal when it comes to talking about the "crack on" mentality

and I reckon relatives of the excess deaths will have plenty to moan about if they couldn't get the care they needed to save their lives, if the shit show from our government is in anyway to blame

but no point in going to the papers with it

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How about, ask the vulnerable to isolate this Xmas in order to minimise the risk to the NHS? Afterall they represent 99% of the hospitalisations 

It’s as reasonable to ask them to take additional precautions for a few more weeks (until they get the vaccine) as it is to ask everyone to take additional precautions  

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2 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

I reckon we’ll stay in T3 

Itll be a disgrace

London have their fun and as soon as it gets shitty down there, we all pay the price?

Its bullshit

Ill take tier 2 and a one day christmas

Owt less, they can fuck off

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13 minutes ago, Casino said:

Itll be a disgrace

London have their fun and as soon as it gets shitty down there, we all pay the price?

Its bullshit

Ill take tier 2 and a one day christmas

Owt less, they can fuck off

Conveniently for Boris & co, NW figures have just crept up a touch today. 

Be enough for the twats to justify keeping us in tier 3.

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45 minutes ago, Casino said:

Itll be a disgrace

London have their fun and as soon as it gets shitty down there, we all pay the price?

Its bullshit

Ill take tier 2 and a one day christmas

Owt less, they can fuck off

That's where I'm at, Christmas only lasts one day where you're all together

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52 minutes ago, Casino said:

Itll be a disgrace

London have their fun and as soon as it gets shitty down there, we all pay the price?

Its bullshit

Ill take tier 2 and a one day christmas

Owt less, they can fuck off

What would be the point of going into tier 2 though? Ok you can get a pint with a meal & maybe get to see a footy match - but at what cost? London is proof that T2 doesn’t work and coupled with the 5 day xmas bubble, i can only see our cases rising fast, which would  lead to even sticter measures in the new year. Tough on the hospitality game admittedly, but i’m not convinced they’d all bother opening till next year anyway.

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7 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said:

What would be the point of going into tier 2 though? Ok you can get a pint with a meal & maybe get to see a footy match - but at what cost? London is proof that T2 doesn’t work and coupled with the 5 day xmas bubble, i can only see our cases rising fast, which would  lead to even sticter measures in the new year. Tough on the hospitality game admittedly, but i’m not convinced they’d all bother opening till next year anyway.

Why about Liverpool and/or other T2 areas

They aren’t all going up linearly so why take London as proof?

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2 hours ago, jules_darby said:

Why about Liverpool and/or other T2 areas

They aren’t all going up linearly so why take London as proof?

Im pretty sure london was rising when they went in 2 and we were decreasing when we went in 3

They should never have been put in 2 at the end of lockdown 2

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36 minutes ago, Spider said:

Well?

When we finding out?

I find it weird that they havent leaked this info when hey leak everything else.

Maybe they haven't got a clue what to do

I think they're probably shitting themselves at the minute, as their next announcement will be that they're banning this 5 days at Christmas lark. My guess, is everybody into T3 until they review it again January 7th

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20 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I think they're probably shitting themselves at the minute, as they're next announcement will be that they're banning this 5 days at Christmas lark. My guess, is everybody into T3 until they review it again January 7th

Can’t see them banning the 5 days, 3 households mixing is hardly a free for all is it 

I’d imagine that with educational settings closed for 2 weeks and what seems like most of the country not working for at least a week (utilising holidays they haven’t used thus far) then the R rate will be lower over Xmas that it has been these last couple of weeks anyway 

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6 minutes ago, birch-chorley said:

Can’t see them banning the 5 days, 3 households mixing is hardly a free for all is it 

I’d imagine that with educational settings closed for 2 weeks and what seems like most of the country not working for at least a week (utilising holidays they haven’t used thus far) then the R rate will be lower over Xmas that it has been these last couple of weeks anyway 

Think raab insinuated pretty much that yesterday. All that factored in.

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Xmas relaxations arent getting banned in England may be slightly different up here. 
 

I think they will though use the relaxations as a reason to keep in tier 3 and say we can’t have both so we’ve gone with what we thought at the start. I hope I’m wrong though 

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56 minutes ago, Spider said:

Well?

When we finding out?

I find it weird that they havent leaked this info when hey leak everything else.

Maybe they haven't got a clue what to do

Government meeting today to decide what to do, announcement tomorrow - but i would imagine some details will leak out later today. Now that London is the area with the fastest rising cases & the new strain, i’d expect some knee jerk/downright stupid/extreme measures. Next revue is 23 Dec btw.

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19 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Xmas relaxations arent getting banned in England may be slightly different up here. 
 

I think they will though use the relaxations as a reason to keep in tier 3 and say we can’t have both so we’ve gone with what we thought at the start. I hope I’m wrong though 

Actually, I can see them saying that.

 

 

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30 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

Xmas relaxations arent getting banned in England may be slightly different up here. 
 

I think they will though use the relaxations as a reason to keep in tier 3 and say we can’t have both so we’ve gone with what we thought at the start. I hope I’m wrong though 

That would be my guess too

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