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39 minutes ago, Spider said:

I don’t care what anyone says, a lot of people will be enjoying furlough.

A lot.

Correct.

Fairly obvious stuff really.

We’ve created a culture of lazy work-shy wasters with all the Govt handouts over many many years.

Why should they want to work, now they have a valid reason not to?

The number of vulnerable people we have is obscene too.

It’s usually caused by a lack of intelligence, self-respect or both.

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1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

I don’t know a single person on furlough 

Really??

I honestly know of 15 I could name right now.

This includes, I hasten to add, part time furloughists.

FurLOAFERS more like.

(It might be furloughers. Or even furloughnians.)

 

Furloughsiders. Furloughcunts.

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13 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

I don’t know a single person on furlough 

Me neither. Everyone I know is either wearing a mask to work, working full time from home, or absolutely on their arse. Although those who are on their arse have always been on their arse, and they tend to be anti-vaxxers and anti-mask. Probably because they spend all day on facebook instead of getting off their arses.

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2 minutes ago, Spider said:

Really??

I honestly know of 15 I could name right now.

This includes, I hasten to add, part time furloughists.

FurLOAFERS more like.

(It might be furloughers. Or even furloughnians.)

 

Furloughsiders. Furloughcunts.

Not one

loads last year including myself for a good 3 months but it’s very much business as usual for many I know 

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49 minutes ago, Escobarp said:

I think that wasn’t the only thing you attempted to tell me but I digress  

if a business decides to close due to the pandemic then people get furloughed or let go. That’s a fact. What are they going to do turn up to work when it’s shut?

we furloughed about 20% of our uk staff at some point  last year across the group. they didn’t get a choice.  they were told they were being furloughed. Same with a number of my clients as well. That’s another fact. 
 

Companies have done what you tried to tell me they couldn’t do. 
so my facts are straight. How about yours?

I think what @Casino is trying to say os that a company cannot,  by law, force an employee to be furloughed. 

I was furloughed for 3 months last summer. I HAD to agree to it before they could do it. I could've refused.

Thing is, and which is the point your probably trying to make (?) is that had I refused then I'd have been made redundant,  which is probably right.

But, his point is true from a legal point of view, a company cannot force its staff to be furloughed. They have to agree to it.

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38 minutes ago, captainmed said:

Correct.

Fairly obvious stuff really.

We’ve created a culture of lazy work-shy wasters with all the Govt handouts over many many years.

Why should they want to work, now they have a valid reason not to?

The number of vulnerable people we have is obscene too.

It’s usually caused by a lack of intelligence, self-respect or both.

Is that not a bit of an extreme view of it ? like some people are going to be enjoying it but i know a lot of people who are finding it hard. it is not just a financial thing. 

Do you reckon you would be as wealthy without the worker bees you have ? Those 6 figure salaries don't magic themselves out of the air.

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15 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

Me neither.

I'd love to sit on my arse for 80%. 

I think we need to get off folks back on this. My sector is either been made redundant or is on furlough. The whole thing.

People want to be at work, it's not only about loving their jobs but it's not healthy, it's anxiety inducing even thinking about  once April comes around. 

And 80% is a a lot for.many when being hit by rents etc 

A bit less of the sitting around doing fuck all when there are people desperate to get off furlough and back into full time work and also those on furlough who are volunteering in some capacity.

Let's just be a bit fucking easier on each other at this moment in time.

 

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4 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I think we need to get off folks back on this. My sector is either been made redundant or is on furlough. The whole thing.

People want to be at work, it's not only about loving their jobs but it's not healthy, it's anxiety inducing even thinking about  once April comes around. 

And 80% is a a lot for.many when being hit by rents etc 

A bit less of the sitting around doing fuck all when there are people desperate to get off furlough and back into full time work and also those on furlough who are volunteering in some capacity.

Let's just be a bit fucking easier on each other at this moment in time.

 

Worse than teachers

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2 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said:

I think we need to get off folks back on this. My sector is either been made redundant or is on furlough. The whole thing.

People want to be at work, it's not only about loving their jobs but it's not healthy, it's anxiety inducing even thinking about  once April comes around. 

And 80% is a a lot for.many when being hit by rents etc 

A bit less of the sitting around doing fuck all when there are people desperate to get off furlough and back into full time work and also those on furlough who are volunteering in some capacity.

Let's just be a bit fucking easier on each other at this moment in time.

 

You've misunderstood me. It wasn't a criticism at all and I realise that some folk are struggling on 80%.

It wasn't a "I'd love to be furloughed cos they're all lazy twats and I'm working so hard" type of post. 

Genuinely, I'm one of life's loafers. I'd quite like it. That's all.

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35 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

I don’t know a single person on furlough 

I know a few on flexi-furlough, so they're working 2 or 3 days per week. My Brother-In-Law is on flexi-furlough and works just 1 day per week.

All the staff from the village club and the village pub are on full furloughed, so there's another 6 or 7. 

I also know a few people who work at Stansted and Luton airports, and they're all furloughed as well, for obvious reasons

 

In the main though, most people I know are generally WFH as they have been throughout

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6 minutes ago, mickbrown said:

You've misunderstood me. It wasn't a criticism at all and I realise that some folk are struggling on 80%.

It wasn't a "I'd love to be furloughed cos they're all lazy twats and I'm working so hard" type of post. 

Genuinely, I'm one of life's loafers. I'd quite like it. That's all.

Apologies, i'm just a bi over senstve about it when we have struggled this year like lots of people have through no fault of their own and now and either having to work harder or waiting around to see if there is a job for them. The gvt's annoucements this week is the right thing to do to take this re-opening slowly but its leaving a lot of people in very worrying positions and its been like this since last year. Takes its toll a bit, didn't mean to bite anyone's head off.

Except for Spider, he can get fucked. 😉

 

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17 minutes ago, DazBob said:

I think what @Casino is trying to say os that a company cannot,  by law, force an employee to be furloughed. 

I was furloughed for 3 months last summer. I HAD to agree to it before they could do it. I could've refused.

Thing is, and which is the point your probably trying to make (?) is that had I refused then I'd have been made redundant,  which is probably right.

But, his point is true from a legal point of view, a company cannot force its staff to be furloughed. They have to agree to it.

My point is and was if they shut the company down you’ve two choices. Furlough or leave. So in essence you’re being forced to furlough. For you its different as I don’t believe you completely closed down?

 

also as stated At our place there was no choice. They received an invite to a Skype meeting and were told One by one when they would be going on furlough and for how long initially. No choice was given. Same with a few clients so im only going off that. 
 

im a hybrid WFH type/footsoldier and I’ve been doing bits of my normal job and spending more time at home than usual but i was classified an essential key worker (not my words) which was why I didn’t get offered furlough I imagine. Which was at 100% pay for our company 

 

anyway it is what it is

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20 minutes ago, DazBob said:

I think what @Casino is trying to say os that a company cannot,  by law, force an employee to be furloughed. 

I was furloughed for 3 months last summer. I HAD to agree to it before they could do it. I could've refused.

Thing is, and which is the point your probably trying to make (?) is that had I refused then I'd have been made redundant,  which is probably right.

But, his point is true from a legal point of view, a company cannot force its staff to be furloughed. They have to agree to it.

Spot on

Esco likes his pedantry, so dunno why he's getting grumpy

 

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8 minutes ago, Sweep said:

I know a few on flexi-furlough, so they're working 2 or 3 days per week. My Brother-In-Law is on flexi-furlough and works just 1 day per week.

All the staff from the village club and the village pub are on full furloughed, so there's another 6 or 7. 

I also know a few people who work at Stansted and Luton airports, and they're all furloughed as well, for obvious reasons

 

In the main though, most people I know are generally WFH as they have been throughout

I'm doing this to home school, 2 days a week. But the workload doesn't drop, so it just feels like its a treadmill. Thankfully they are topping my wages up to 100%

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