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2 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Report the other day, with general public filmed attacking medical staff who had treated patients with it.

Grim.

The coppers are taking a good approach to the lock down! I’ve seen some cracking videos of people getting good hidings for being on the streets 

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23 minutes ago, peelyfeet said:

 

I expect race is a red herring, more likely to be comorbidities of obesity and diabetes, which are more prevalent in Black and south Asian populations, than in white or northern Asian 

And poverty. It's very rarely as simple as black or white. Black people are more likely to commit and be the victim of crime because they are more likely to live in a less affluent area. 

It's the poverty gap that needs addressing - as ever.

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Just now, kent_white said:

And poverty. It's very rarely as simple as black or white. Black people are more likely to commit and be the victim of crime because they are more likely to live in a less affluent area. 

It's the poverty gap that needs addressing - as ever.

True

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6 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

That maybe true, but for reporters to say black people are more likely to get CV is just pure crap, unless some crack Scientist comes up with proof that black people have this gene that white people don't have so they aren't as immune.

I think they're more likely to get it because they're more likely to live in poverty and more likely to suffer from chronic disease.

Insinuating that it's somehow a racist virus or the prevalence rates are a consequence of racism is bloody daft.

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30 minutes ago, Spider said:

So on the bbc it says 756 deaths for today.

It then says of that number only 140 were yesterday, the rest were over the last few weeks.

What the fucks going on?

 

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ngland reports 765 new coronavirus deaths

NHS England has recorded 765 new deaths in hospital from coronavirus.

It said that 140 of them occurred yesterday, while 568 took place between 1 April and 7 April. 

The remaining 57 deaths took place in March, including two on 19 March and one on 16 March.

It is to do with day death was recorded rather than occurred.

Not all deaths are reported same day depending on circumstances. So 140 deaths occurred and we reported yesterday. There will be hundreds more not yet reported. 

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22 minutes ago, kent_white said:

I think they're more likely to get it because they're more likely to live in poverty and more likely to suffer from chronic disease.

Insinuating that it's somehow a racist virus or the prevalence rates are a consequence of racism is bloody daft.

Yes, more a political rather than race-driven point.

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4 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said:

Men working harder too....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In more physically demanding jobs and have worn themselves out! :)

Says our correspondent from the 1950s!

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31 minutes ago, Spider said:

So on the bbc it says 756 deaths for today.

It then says of that number only 140 were yesterday, the rest were over the last few weeks.

What the fucks going on?

 

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ngland reports 765 new coronavirus deaths

NHS England has recorded 765 new deaths in hospital from coronavirus.

It said that 140 of them occurred yesterday, while 568 took place between 1 April and 7 April. 

The remaining 57 deaths took place in March, including two on 19 March and one on 16 March.

 

None of it really adds up to a layman's analysis. This is supposedly the peak (or near enough) but there's no way of knowing from the released data as it's all significantly out of date. The government say they think hospitalisations and cases might have plateaued, and are not yet near capacity, but we're still building temporary hospitals and morgues.

If you had a government everybody trusts (which is to say, no govermment ever), they'd be just as well extending the lockdown, cancelling the daily briefings and stop releasing anything. Come back in three weeks and see where we are.

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20 minutes ago, Mr Grey said:

Probably, and your are correct, we don't need to make this a racial issue, media outlets just love to make an issue, they are probably getting a bit bored of the same reporting day in day out, on yesterday's Sky news there was nothing new, just the statistics and individual stories about a disabled person or how people are coping in flats etc... 

But whatever you status, living on a council estate or living in a so-called posh area, stay at home, social distancing etc.... it applies to us all and it all means the same.

I don't think it's a "racial" issues, it's a societal issue - and those with poorer living conditions / poorer paid jobs (who have to turn out still) / etc tend to be ethnic minorities - basically people who for whatever reason find it harder to stay at home

the stats from the US simply highlighted this - the number of blacks getting CV was disproportionate to the actual population in some states - e.g. Louisiana - they make up 33% of the population, but 70% of the deaths are african american, because many of them live in squalor / shitholes - sad but true - it makes staying home and staying put all the harder

but it's not racist in anyway to point out what is going on

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1 hour ago, Spider said:

So on the bbc it says 756 deaths for today.

It then says of that number only 140 were yesterday, the rest were over the last few weeks.

What the fucks going on?

 

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ngland reports 765 new coronavirus deaths

NHS England has recorded 765 new deaths in hospital from coronavirus.

It said that 140 of them occurred yesterday, while 568 took place between 1 April and 7 April. 

The remaining 57 deaths took place in March, including two on 19 March and one on 16 March.

well, I guess they need to catch up on, for example, the care home deaths that won't be included on the day they actually happened - 9 in Essex, 13 in Glasgow, 15 in Luton

it's happened in 2 other Scottish care homes as well but no official numbers yet, though described as "several"

lots of paperwork to catch up on

 

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I think we had just decided the stats can't be trusted

New cases can't be trusted as a guide cos we don't test enough

Deaths can't be trusted as collating data takes time, people live for differing lengths of time before dieing

I honestly don't see which of the DAILY figures being produced are an indicator of anything

 

Peely?

 

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12 minutes ago, Casino said:

I think we had just decided the stats can't be trusted

New cases can't be trusted as a guide cos we don't test enough

Deaths can't be trusted as collating data takes time, people live for differing lengths of time before dieing

I honestly don't see which of the DAILY figures being produced are an indicator of anything

 

Peely?

 

Number of people going into hospital seems the best (although flawed) one. 

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I honestly don't see the point in this mass over-analysis of daily numbers. Too many people getting hung up on numbers nobody knows the true meaning of.

The most sensible thing is surely to look at an average based over a few days, rather than just looking at single days in isolation?

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1 minute ago, DazBob said:

I honestly don't see the point in this mass over-analysis of daily numbers. Too many people getting hung up on numbers nobody knows the true meaning of.

The most sensible thing is surely to look at an average based over a few days, rather than just looking at single days in isolation?

Daz we can’t get people to stay inside and sit on their arses never mind calculating averages.

 

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Away from the stats

Some folk might think I'm critical of the authorities just for the sake of it

GPS surgeries have finally been told officially that they need to open tomorrow

And they are to communicate the fact to their patients

 

 

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21 minutes ago, only1swanny said:

Drop of 200 in a day, surely a good thing..

JUst hope that people continue to follow the social distancing. 

Is there a drop of 200? Today's total figure is 887 isn't it? The 765 is just for England

Sadly, I reckon until we see declines for at least 4 or 5 consecutive days, we can't really get to excited about anything getting better

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1 minute ago, Rudy’s Message said:

Daz we can’t get people to stay inside and sit on their arses never mind calculating averages.

 

Ha, true dat.

All the experts will be down at the park discussing the daily ups and downs over a few Speccy Brews.

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