jules_darby Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, MickyD said: Proper pulled the wool over everyone’s eyes with his success at Burnley. The Burnley fans were apoplectic when he fucked off to us. Oh, how they laugh now. We’re four divisions apart! Three* As you were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eddie Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Whoever it is, you’d think that we’ve already been in discussions and have a plan. It’s not like this has come out of nowhere after a big loss etc., they’ll have made this decision a while ago and with any luck they’ll already know who they want and what the chances of getting them are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thomas Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, kent_white said: Those were the days! https://bleacherreport.com/articles/643432-owen-coyle-not-arsene-wenger-should-be-arsenal-manager Didn’t Coyle get us to 6th in PL at time of Holden’s injury and FA cup semi. His chief hater on here can’t admit this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 5 hours ago, Tombwfc said: Nolan - First team coach at West Ham, but out of contract at the end of the season. 42% win ratio across 99 games as a manager with two teams in League Two. Had both in and around the playoffs and both went down after he left, so he was probably working with some shite. Ricketts - Decent spell at Wrexham and comes across well, but I'd not be getting too excited over his 23 wins from 78 at Shrewsbury. Career winning record as a manager is 35% off 102 games. Seems Bolton fans think he's a better manager than Shrewsbury fans do. Holden - Three wins from 15 in a short spell at Oldham. Now assistant at Bristol City. Even if none of them had ever played for us, I'm not sure what Holden or Ricketts have that would put them clear above Nolan. If anything, I think being seen as the sentimental option is being held against him. He's a good young coach. The fact that he's a club legend and would have the fans onside at a time we have little else is a bonus. Of the established options Clough, Powell and Adkins are decent shouts. Don't think we need to be getting too cute by picking random coaches with no experience. good stats there whats the big love in with Ricketts looking at that I would give Nolan a bash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Nixon ( I know) saying it's Gary Bowyer at the front of FV thoughts, hope he's wrong mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 What happened with him at Bradford he didn’t last long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomRepWanderer Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: What happened with him at Bradford he didn’t last long Piss poor record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroySwoosh Posted June 13, 2020 Author Share Posted June 13, 2020 would rather re-instate Hillcroft than have Gary Bowyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Let’s be fair Bradford are dog shite, big crowds at £100 a time - easy to get 15-20k at that cost. Doesn’t make you any money though, so little to invest. lets see what bowyer (if it’s him) can do with a proper club Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mannyroader Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I fear logic will kick in. Anyone half decent will want more than HillCroft were on. We don't have a pot to piss in, we have ditched the U23s so do you sack the U23 coaches or the first team coaches? The latter, ergo U23 coaches get promoted. David Lee plus his choice of assistant from within the coaching staff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farnywhite Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mannyroader said: I fear logic will kick in. Anyone half decent will want more than HillCroft were on. We don't have a pot to piss in, we have ditched the U23s so do you sack the U23 coaches or the first team coaches? The latter, ergo U23 coaches get promoted. David Lee plus his choice of assistant from within the coaching staff. Think you’re right plus with lee doing well with the kids he ticks that box plus being cheep and a ex player the owners may think it would be a good move Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I think if we go with the logical, cheap opition we'll go with Bowyer rather than Lee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said: What happened with him at Bradford he didn’t last long Think Bratford was a basket case anyway, but he did sign Chris Taylor and Clayton Donaldson for them which is very worrying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 9 minutes ago, Blondi said: Think Bratford was a basket case anyway, but he did sign Chris Taylor and Clayton Donaldson for them which is very worrying. Aye. That alone is enough to put me off Bowyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted June 13, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2020 I know some on here know bowyer and say he's decent- that may be the case, but he comes across as another dull, grey man. Not inspirational. Another PP, so a no from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Think it seems obvious now we’re having a first team ‘coach’ and a Director of Football so that rules out half on the list Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 id rather have david lee thsn Gary fuckin Bowyer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted June 13, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted June 13, 2020 If we are going down the money ball route or whatever it’s called, I suspect it’s going to be a coach we’ve not heard of. The Rangers kid ticks them boxes and hopefully the compo is having to blood some of their kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 14 minutes ago, Moon boy said: Think it seems obvious now we’re having a first team ‘coach’ and a Director of Football so that rules out half on the list Mark Iles seemed to indicate that we're likely to be hiring a younger type manager, so probably rules out Clough, Adkins, etc, but I can't see us paying compo to another club for say a Ricketts, Wellens, Evatt younger type guy either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 If clough is willing to take the job on, it’s a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyRiddle Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I really don't get this David Lee love in?? If we were looking at a an U23 manager from another team at our level we would all be apopletic! So how's he even being considered?? Just coz a couple of kids have come through, it's crazy talk... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blondi Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, JimmyRiddle said: I really don't get this David Lee love in?? If we were looking at a an U23 manager from another team at our level we would all be apopletic! So how's he even being considered?? Just coz a couple of kids have come through, it's crazy talk... Spot on! Be different if he came in on a caretaker basis, but no way on this earth should he be considered for the main job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danny G Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Is Phoenix signing the players and employing a coach? Apologies if already discussed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 For the life of me I don't see how that works. If you're the manager how can you have all your players imposed on you? Whoever comes in now doesn't have a team, he has to sign one. He needs to have the enthusiasm of using players he rates. Its just asking for unnecessary tensions between players and manager, and manager and 'director of football'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, Johnnyrotten said: For the life of me I don't see how that works. If you're the manager how can you have all your players imposed on you? Whoever comes in now doesn't have a team, he has to sign one. He needs to have the enthusiasm of using players he rates. Its just asking for unnecessary tensions between players and manager, and manager and 'director of football'. Largely agree, but I think it's a lot more common in football now than we may realise. Owners buy players and expect the coach to form them into a coherent unit, often giving them no say in potential purchases Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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