Not in Crawley Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, bolton va va said: I've no idea what that is supposed to mean. Quite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, DazBob said: You OK hun? Yeah I’m fine thanks for asking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not in Crawley Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Escobarp said: Not really no but carry on Oh yes you do you little.tinker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, royal white said: The link earlier in the thread was from a player saying it was for BLM, other players have also said that. Many are gormless and doing it because they’re told to, Rudy works with players and he said it’s for black people. So from this thread Alone and speaking to a league 1 player there’s not one definitive answer, if the players don’t know then I don’t and nor do you or anyone else. Now if you asked what they’re linking arms for I reckon they would all have the same answer. Which players that took the knee are "gormless"? As there are "many" of them, I expect you'll be able to provide a short list. Edited December 9, 2020 by Cheese Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, DazBob said: Ta. Trouble evidently now is folk are questioning just what BLM actually means. Do clubs need to come out and explain? They're not going to do that.There's probably too much ambiguity surrounding it now, sadly. Always been ambiguity with it, it’s covers a huge amount of ground from a simple anti racism message at one end, through a belief that Western systems like the UK’s is systemically racists in the middle to the outright anarchism at the other end To be fair, they denounce the violence and vandalism on that U.K. web site so I will ignore the extreme element. However it’s fair to say that their core belief, that the vast majority in the group share, is that our system is Systemically racist. That’s basically saying our education, healthcare, welfare systems etc are inherently racist in favour if white people. I fundamentally disagree with that, as do many others. It’s a highly political opinion that has no place in football for me, that should be left to politics, election manifestos and democratic votes. Any support from football clubs and players to BLM is support for that political opinion in my book. They are allowed that opinion of course, but others should be allowed to oppose it as long as they do it in a non violent way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 6 minutes ago, Cheese said: A racist Millwall fan announced it on an unofficial Millwall forum? HOW COULD THE FOOTBALL MEDIA BE SO IGNORANT!??!?? You asked for examples & i found one for you, which you clearly haven't even read, but still squeal "racist'. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Cheese said: Which players that took the knee are "gormless"? As there are "many" of them, I expect you'll be able to provide a short list. Just going off what a player said to me and I think most on here will admit some footballers are a bit gormless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, bolton va va said: You asked for examples & i found one for you, which you clearly haven't even read, but still squeal "racist'. Can you provide a better example? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Look at the discussion it’s causing in here between what 15 of us? It’s likely many fans up and down the country will be having similar discussions. It’s blatantly obvious that the linked arms is the better option. Why not move forward with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, royal white said: Just going off what a player said to me and I think most on here will admit some footballers are a bit gormless. Aye, alright. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 15 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Still waiting for you to show me some data where White British outperform either our Indian or Chinese compatriots Struggling to see how the system is so biased in favour of white peoples when we perform so poorly in so many areas against these groups For what it's worth, BLM (the political organisations) argue the system is biased against black people specifically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, royal white said: Look at the discussion it’s causing in here between what 15 of us? It’s likely many fans up and down the country will be having similar discussions. It’s blatantly obvious that the linked arms is the better option. Why not move forward with that? Why don't you post a video of yourself doing a cartwheel so we know how non-racist you are? Maybe then you'll be in a better position to tell footballers how they're allowed to display their anti-racism beliefs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 7 minutes ago, Cheese said: Can you provide a better example? If you haven't read the example i've already provided or you've glanced at it & it doesn't suit your "all Millwall fans are racist" agenda, i'm not wasting time finding more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, Cheese said: Why don't you post a video of yourself doing a cartwheel so we know how non-racist you are? Maybe then you'll be in a better position to tell footballers how they're allowed to display their anti-racism beliefs? You really don’t think before you post at time do you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Lt. Aldo Raine said: For what it's worth, BLM (the political organisations) argue the system is biased against black people specifically. Ah ok Personally find it hard to believe that our system is rigged in favour of anyone but black people. Especially when Black people in this country who have come from Africa tend to outperform Black Caribbean’s and Whites in many areas (predominantly around Education). When you consider the ethnic group at the bottom of all the tables (Gypsies) are white it firms up my belief that skin colour isn’t the most important factor, culture within the different groups is the key to educational and economic success Some black people use racism as a crutch to explain lack of economic development Edited December 9, 2020 by birch-chorley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, royal white said: You really don’t think before you post at time do you What are you struggling to comprehend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, bolton va va said: If you haven't read the example i've already provided or you've glanced at it & it doesn't suit your "all Millwall fans are racist" agenda, i'm not wasting time finding more. In other words: "That's all I've got". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dimron Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 I'm sorry but racism or any other form of discrimination is wrong and ignoring it or saying it does not matter or it is "political" is just as wrong. BLM and taking the knee has woken me up to this very late in life, I am white, male and a football supporter who grew up in the bleak 70s and I do not wish to be a dinosaur. We all know deep down The Den is a disgrace from the dark ages and should be bulldozed out of existence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolton va va Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Cheese said: In other words: "That's all I've got". No, in the same words, i'm not wasting time finding more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Cheese is on full throttle tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 4 minutes ago, Dimron said: I'm sorry but racism or any other form of discrimination is wrong and ignoring it or saying it does not matter or it is "political" is just as wrong. BLM and taking the knee has woken me up to this very late in life, I am white, male and a football supporter who grew up in the bleak 70s and I do not wish to be a dinosaur. We all know deep down The Den is a disgrace from the dark ages and should be bulldozed out of existence. Millwall fans have come out and said why they have booed so why are they still being branded as racist. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 3 minutes ago, Dimron said: I'm sorry but racism or any other form of discrimination is wrong and ignoring it or saying it does not matter or it is "political" is just as wrong. BLM and taking the knee has woken me up to this very late in life, I am white, male and a football supporter who grew up in the bleak 70s and I do not wish to be a dinosaur. We all know deep down The Den is a disgrace from the dark ages and should be bulldozed out of existence. Old Den bulldozed in 1993 when we went down 2 years ago its all pantomime , caged tunnel to get in the stadium yet after the match we were all stood together at train station and all on the tube together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 2 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Cheese is on full throttle tonight Xmas ales have already been cracked open by the look of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted December 9, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted December 9, 2020 1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Cheese is on full throttle tonight 60% at most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crawshawbooth Posted December 9, 2020 Share Posted December 9, 2020 Just now, royal white said: Xmas ales have already been cracked open by the look of it not having that he is on xmas ales it will be Bud light with a lager top just a half thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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