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Kids Footy

Fleetwood Town "academy". Whats the craic? 

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  • 5 years on from my original OP, and ive not posted for yonks, so thought id share my lads journey here.   after the original question about fleetwood, the lad (now 15) had 12 months at burnley (a

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    Club presentation yesterday- me, my assistant coaches, a couple of academy kids who have come through the club, and about 70% of the kids I coach each week!   wish somebody had told me about

  • sorry- my bad; i'm here to get them enjoying themselves, to get them moving, and developing- with that comes the 'opportunities'. i try to start teams off, get them in with no structured experience- i

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my lad is plying at Turf Moor tomorrow v Accy, played at Ewood last weekend, 2-0 down and won 3-2 (cheeky couple in the Ferny 😉) Just been confirmed in Greater Manchester's squad for Northern Counties final Wednesday night... might start liking football again come the end of the week

On 27/02/2024 at 15:59, Casino said:

tbh, it seems to do ok these days since that kids team took it on?

Looked abandoned recently but theyve cut the grass so who knows

Nothing will ever change with kids football. 

Generally poorly behaved parents who don’t understand the game and think their little Johnny is the next Rooney. 

Get your kids into a local running club instead. 

It’s bloody hard going, especially the training in winter re the UK weather etc and being covered head to toe in mud, but “tough love” is good parenting for us. 

Most parents can’t be bothered and/or claim they don’t have the time. I’ll be honest, it is very time consuming, especially with weekend competitions and travelling but it was honestly the best thing we ever did for ours.

Also great for their general fitness, diet, stamina, competitiveness and camaraderie. Mental well-being is obviously becoming more important too these days. 

Stands them in good stead for when they go University too re joining running clubs etc. 

My eldest played a team a few weeks on Stanley Park. Ended up 3-0 after 60 mins despite being the best team. Their goals were a freak own goal, a deflection and our keeper doing a felgate.

They got it together and my lad scored 2 belters to get us back in with 10 to go.

My lad get put through to make it level and their liner puts its flag up. Never offside in a million years.

Last kick of the game my lad puts someone through. The lad ran from his own half and 5 yards behind their line. He runs on and bashes home the equaliser. Liner sticks his flag up. Ref can't not give it. Full blown riot ensues.

The linesman was their manager and apparently has done the same throughout the season.

That's the kind of shit you're dealing with.

37 minutes ago, gonzo said:

My eldest played a team a few weeks on Stanley Park. Ended up 3-0 after 60 mins despite being the best team. Their goals were a freak own goal, a deflection and our keeper doing a felgate.

They got it together and my lad scored 2 belters to get us back in with 10 to go.

My lad get put through to make it level and their liner puts its flag up. Never offside in a million years.

Last kick of the game my lad puts someone through. The lad ran from his own half and 5 yards behind their line. He runs on and bashes home the equaliser. Liner sticks his flag up. Ref can't not give it. Full blown riot ensues.

The linesman was their manager and apparently has done the same throughout the season.

That's the kind of shit you're dealing with.

That’s the kind of shit I hate- folk forget why they are there and suddenly think they are Jose and must win at all costs. I don’t have a team myself cos of this, and I still have run ins with parents!

@Casino ran the line for his daughter’s (and my daughter’s) team v Wigan. He did a great job to be fair but fucking hell, the Wigan supporters and coaches didn’t think highly.

loved it :)

 

when i ran my lads team i'd often end up line or reffing (seriously hard work doing ref and manager) and my lad hated it as i'd give everything against his team

how anybody can deliberately cheat kids is something i cant get my head around

Another anecdote from the wacky world of kids footy....

There was a gaggle of mums in my lads under 9s team, who know absolutely fuck all about football or a sporting environment kicking up a fuss about the way their kids were treated.

The manager is a big thick set yorky, 50 years old, doesn't give a fuck and has got the kids playing really well. If they don't train properly or dick about they don't start the next match. Simples.

Two of the parents who's kids dick about contacted the clubs welfare officer. Complaints went in and they tried a mutiny. The managers assistant is a copper stabbed him in the back and complained too.

The welfare lass even ended up in the parents what's app group to oversee parent manager conversations.

I backed the manager all day long as my lad loves the discipline and they are winning games. It was a total shit show before he came in.

Anyway the mutiny failed. A raft of kids have now been bought in and the disruptive fuckers are leaving.

All that could have been sorted over a pint. 

Soft fuckers.

14 hours ago, gonzo said:

My eldest played a team a few weeks on Stanley Park. Ended up 3-0 after 60 mins despite being the best team. Their goals were a freak own goal, a deflection and our keeper doing a felgate.

They got it together and my lad scored 2 belters to get us back in with 10 to go.

My lad get put through to make it level and their liner puts its flag up. Never offside in a million years.

Last kick of the game my lad puts someone through. The lad ran from his own half and 5 yards behind their line. He runs on and bashes home the equaliser. Liner sticks his flag up. Ref can't not give it. Full blown riot ensues.

The linesman was their manager and apparently has done the same throughout the season.

That's the kind of shit you're dealing with.

Reminds me of an incident about 10 years or more ago when I was coaching my lad at u10’s.  Early season grading game, team drawing and opposition had a free kick on the edge of the box. Ref (a parent of theirs) told players that there was minute to go. Free kick straight into the wall and defender cleared straight to our forward on the half way line who had no one near him, ran towards goal for a one on one and ref blows full time just before he got to the edge of the box. Must have been no more than 15 seconds from the free kick.  To be fair, their manager was embarrassed and offered us the win, but we refused. 
 

It’s been 5 years since I stopped, u16 was impossible to manage as most coaches make it about them. Don’t miss it at all, but enjoy watching my youngest now playing adult football.

Edited by bolton in bedford

Daughter was playing at U12 level at Blackpool. One of the Blackpool players kicked the ball out for our throw but a grandparent had put his foot on the ball. A Blackpool player ran with the ball and scored whilst our kids were quizzing the ref (their assistant manager) as to why he’d allowed it.

Us parents spent the rest of the game calling for everything but he just grinned.

How he escaped a kicking, I really don’t know.

Can anyone on here point me in the right direction for some basic footy drills to do with my grandson over half term and moving into the summer?

He’s 9 later this year. Plays for the B team of a recently set up team. They are pretty rubbish and he’s only got into footy this past season so has only had one season of friday night coaching and Saturday games

Loves playing, always has a smile on his face, led the team out in their recent “Cup Final”, but is a little physical shall we say. Had to be subbed last game as a reaction to the other teams’s coach (wanker)

Just want to get him to a level where he’s confident with the ball as a 9 year old. Wouldn’t have a clue where to start

1 hour ago, MancWanderer said:

Can anyone on here point me in the right direction for some basic footy drills to do with my grandson over half term and moving into the summer?

He’s 9 later this year. Plays for the B team of a recently set up team. They are pretty rubbish and he’s only got into footy this past season so has only had one season of friday night coaching and Saturday games

Loves playing, always has a smile on his face, led the team out in their recent “Cup Final”, but is a little physical shall we say. Had to be subbed last game as a reaction to the other teams’s coach (wanker)

Just want to get him to a level where he’s confident with the ball as a 9 year old. Wouldn’t have a clue where to start

Kick a ball against a wall until the sun goes down.

3 minutes ago, Cheese said:

Kick a ball against a wall until the sun goes down.

No walls here. Middle class open greenery

Just now, MancWanderer said:

No walls here. Middle class open greenery

Kick a ball against a tree until the sun goes down.

2 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

Can anyone on here point me in the right direction for some basic footy drills to do with my grandson over half term and moving into the summer?

He’s 9 later this year. Plays for the B team of a recently set up team. They are pretty rubbish and he’s only got into footy this past season so has only had one season of friday night coaching and Saturday games

Loves playing, always has a smile on his face, led the team out in their recent “Cup Final”, but is a little physical shall we say. Had to be subbed last game as a reaction to the other teams’s coach (wanker)

Just want to get him to a level where he’s confident with the ball as a 9 year old. Wouldn’t have a clue where to start

If you want to coach him, Google plan it coach for coaching plans… more fun for him would be to join a local futsal team, good for improving technical abilities. 

Edited by Mounts Kipper

1 hour ago, Cheese said:

Kick a ball against a tree until the sun goes down.

Relentless as always :D

36 minutes ago, Mounts Kipper said:

If you want to coach him, Google plan it coach for coaching plans… more fun for him would be to join a local futsal team, good for improving technical abilities. 

Ta mate. Yeah there’s not much round here that fits in with when I can do it. Would love to get him into futsal. Just want some simple drills. Get him and the ball and touching it and passing it rather than running around like a headless chicken. Hes only 8 coming up on 9 so don’t want to go full on coaching. Just some simple stuff

1 minute ago, MancWanderer said:

Ta mate. Yeah there’s not much round here that fits in with when I can do it. Would love to get him into futsal. Just want some simple drills. Get him and the ball and touching it and passing it rather than running around like a headless chicken. Hes only 8 coming up on 9 so don’t want to go full on coaching. Just some simple stuff

Plenty of simple stuff on plan it coach. 

6 hours ago, MancWanderer said:

Ta mate. Yeah there’s not much round here that fits in with when I can do it. Would love to get him into futsal. Just want some simple drills. Get him and the ball and touching it and passing it rather than running around like a headless chicken. Hes only 8 coming up on 9 so don’t want to go full on coaching. Just some simple stuff

Paining will come bud. At 8/9 they only think about the ball and what they can do when they have it. He sounds feisty and passionate- could be frustration at not getting able to do what he thinks is the norm; it’s natural.

 The FA have a practice spectrum, it moves from unopposed through to match up. Any good session should have ‘3Rs’- repetitive, relevant and realistic. Anything in your garden is likely to be unopposed or unopposed with interference. This means they won’t be realistic when compared to a game scenario, so the emphasis must go relevance and as @Cheese said, repetition.

We then look at STEP- Space, Task, Equipment, People- is it just you and your grandson? Do you have cones etc? How big is the garden? If you can, get some cones and a couple of pop up nets. 
 

Pop the nets either side of the garden, lay some cones in the middle in a square (dimensions dependent on skill/size of garden). Pop one cone on his head. Ask him to dribble into the square, and out again. On your command, he shoots. You can break it down and ask him to go through certain sides of the square (helps if you have different coloured cones). Ask him to use all parts of his feet, and make sure that cone doesn’t fall off.

He’ll pick up so many principles of play- scanning, penetration, creativity,  but the goals are important as he needs that carrot dangling- it’s all about the goals!

Most importantly, football is about fun. Just make sure he’s enjoying himself- sounds like he is, so level is irrelevant for now.

This post is brought to you by Rudy 

9 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said:

Plenty of simple stuff on plan it coach. 

Will have a look. Cheers

2 hours ago, Dr Faustus said:

Paining will come bud. At 8/9 they only think about the ball and what they can do when they have it. He sounds feisty and passionate- could be frustration at not getting able to do what he thinks is the norm; it’s natural.

 The FA have a practice spectrum, it moves from unopposed through to match up. Any good session should have ‘3Rs’- repetitive, relevant and realistic. Anything in your garden is likely to be unopposed or unopposed with interference. This means they won’t be realistic when compared to a game scenario, so the emphasis must go relevance and as @Cheese said, repetition.

We then look at STEP- Space, Task, Equipment, People- is it just you and your grandson? Do you have cones etc? How big is the garden? If you can, get some cones and a couple of pop up nets. 
 

Pop the nets either side of the garden, lay some cones in the middle in a square (dimensions dependent on skill/size of garden). Pop one cone on his head. Ask him to dribble into the square, and out again. On your command, he shoots. You can break it down and ask him to go through certain sides of the square (helps if you have different coloured cones). Ask him to use all parts of his feet, and make sure that cone doesn’t fall off.

He’ll pick up so many principles of play- scanning, penetration, creativity,  but the goals are important as he needs that carrot dangling- it’s all about the goals!

Most importantly, football is about fun. Just make sure he’s enjoying himself- sounds like he is, so level is irrelevant for now.

This post is brought to you by Rudy 

Brill. Thanks for that. Rudy :D

Anyone on this?

 

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13 minutes ago, gonzo said:

Anyone on this?

 

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not personally, but its a cracking tournament- parking is a nightmare. decent bar, so you'll get some pissed up dickhead kicking off come 3pm Sunday

7 minutes ago, Dr Faustus said:

not personally, but its a cracking tournament- parking is a nightmare. decent bar, so you'll get some pissed up dickhead kicking off come 3pm Sunday

Perfect :D

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