1969 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, Duck Egg said: Delfounso obviously felt strongly enough about it to raise a fist as well as take a knee. As a Wanderers fan why would you not want to show support for how one of our own is feeling? As a human being, why wouldn't you? I've no problem with that they have done it.I just don't agree with it being done time and time again.Its becoming abit scouserish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said: So how long do we continue with it permanently? I've seen enough of it. Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on. Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 3 minutes ago, Casino said: I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe Players get equal treatment. Never, ever done or said anything untoward towards anyone from any nation or of any colour. Clubs have made huge strides and efforts in this regard over the years. If players still want to make a protest, I'd rather they take a more formal and peaceful protest where others can join them away from football. Damned right it shouldn't be happening before every game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, Traf said: I've seen enough of it. Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on. Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats. We had it solid for a period news, football games, Martin Lewis show and even on bleeding Fifa! but we had the option to turn off just hope someone has the balls to knock it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1969 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Traf said: I've seen enough of it. Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on. Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 Just now, radcliffewhite1 said: We had it solid for a period news, football games, Martin Lewis show and even on bleeding Fifa! but we had the option to turn off just hope someone has the balls to knock it Needs some players with the balls to not kneel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Casino said: I think people are arguing that its support for a political organisation are just looking for a reason to argue against it happening I see the knee thing as support for a belief that blacks should get equal treatment, not that we should be supporting a crackpot fringe I don't need a reason to be arguing against it happening but it won't bring me to the point of making a counter protest against it either. It was done originally & made its point now its just wearisome & getting to the point where its pissing reasonable people off & will end up having a counter productive outcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 25 minutes ago, radcliffewhite1 said: Spot on when it was kicking off months back you had the option to turn your tv over but when I’m paying my money to watch a football match I don’t want that Close your eyes for 10 seconds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 minute ago, Cheese said: Close your eyes for 10 seconds. Will you be kneeling in the cinema? 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 23 minutes ago, Farrelli said: I hope they carry on doing it. It’s a good way to show solidarity. All racism needs to be called out. Just like all acts of terrorism needs to have a candle lit, a prayer said, a Facebook profile changing to include the flag of whichever country said terrorism took place, the list of things done to “call out” terrorism goes on. Tell me though, how does a field full of players kneeling help? In fact, look at where the bended knee first became prevalent in current affairs; those same black sportsmen ignoring the convention of standing for your country’s National Anthem. Well, now they managed to talk white sportsmen into taking that same knee. Where does it stop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 Arthritis would be my guess 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 8 minutes ago, Mr Grey said: Players doing it in the first place makes it political ffs! Was any of this in Football before CV, was it fuck! We had and still have the 'Kick it Out' racism campaign! Like most on here are saying, fuck off, we've had enough and we just want to go wat thing football without all the political circus that's around in society. FOOTBALL is a release, you wake up get your clobber on, head to the train station or pub to meet your mates and going watch your team win, lose or draw. I don't feel like it's a political statement at all. Not at the football at least. Seems to me it's just a bunch of young lads expressing themselves about racism. Doubt they've given a seconds thought to whether there's a latent nefarious political ideology pulling the strings from afar. Turn your back and a lot of people will just assume you're a racist. And then we'll get the inevitable backlash. And then the players will keep on doing it to prove a point. And then we'll have yet another cultural splitting point. Anyway - it's your back. You do what you think is best. I think what you said about staying behind the stands untill the whole thing is over is probably the most sensible thing! I'll just be glad when we can get back to normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, kent_white said: People are seriously considering 'turning their back' in protest? I bet none of you actually do it on match day. And if you do it'll mark you out as a massive bellend. No it won’t, it will mark me out as someone who is sick of this woke society full of people like you who are happy to be conned along by disruptive organisations like BLM using this silly gesture as a political tool. What happened in America should be sorted in America. Our police in Bolton don’t go around throttling people or shooting them in the back, black or white. Both were terrible and should be investigated in the USA but I’m going to a football match and I don’t need to be confronted by a racist, political action before every game starts. I hope everybody who is against this pathetic embarrassment will stand up, turn their back and even boo until it’s put to an end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, kent_white said: Turn your back and a lot of people will just assume you're a racist. Whereas the other suggestions I’ve heard today, starting two oft-heard Chants: Stand Up, For The Wanderers or maybe worse Come On You Whites Both have their place at Bolton games but can you imagine the backlash if either of these two plus one or two other regulars, (White Army!, etc.) started right at that point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, Duck Egg said: Delfounso obviously felt strongly enough about it to raise a fist as well as take a knee. As a Wanderers fan why would you not want to show support for how one of our own is feeling? As a human being, why wouldn't you? Are you completely thick, taking the knee was in support of George Floyd, raising the fist is a black power gesture. There’s a world of difference between the two. If a player remained standing and gave a nazi salute, how would you feel about that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitesince63 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 57 minutes ago, Traf said: I've seen enough of it. Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on. Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats. 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulhanley Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 9 minutes ago, MickyD said: Whereas the other suggestions I’ve heard today, starting two oft-heard Chants: Stand Up, For The Wanderers or maybe worse Come On You Whites Both have their place at Bolton games but can you imagine the backlash if either of these two plus one or two other regulars, (White Army!, etc.) started right at that point? Stand up for the Wanderers would at least be a message that the vast majority don't stand with the woke warriors and their relentless browbeating and agenda. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted September 6, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Traf said: I've seen enough of it. Everyone with an ounce of decency knows that black lives matter and why they're protesting, but I don't need to see it everytime I turn the fucking telly on. Wife had BGT on last night and Diversity (all of them are black, so not that diverse) did a piece all about "the struggle" including replicating the Floyd incident. That's not fucking entertainment, that's ramming a cause down our throats. I immediately wondered what UK police would have thought of having mostly white guest dancers acting out the part of aggressive cop while the black dancers portrayed the submissive group the cops were down-treading. They didn’t portray the black kids refusing to follow the cop’s instructions or the looters. Strange that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moon boy Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 47 minutes ago, kent_white said: I don't feel like it's a political statement at all. Not at the football at least. Seems to me it's just a bunch of young lads expressing themselves about racism. Doubt they've given a seconds thought to whether there's a latent nefarious political ideology pulling the strings from afar. Turn your back and a lot of people will just assume you're a racist. And then we'll get the inevitable backlash. And then the players will keep on doing it to prove a point. And then we'll have yet another cultural splitting point. Anyway - it's your back. You do what you think is best. I think what you said about staying behind the stands untill the whole thing is over is probably the most sensible thing! I'll just be glad when we can get back to normal ‘Taking the knee’ is not a political statement’ ? What is it then a warm up exercise? Like all fans, players will all have their own political views let’s keep it that way, I would boo to show that however worthy the cause I don’t need to know their politics or opinions, I’ve paid to watch a football match nothing more nothing less Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said: Are you completely thick, taking the knee was in support of George Floyd, raising the fist is a black power gesture. There’s a world of difference between the two. If a player remained standing and gave a nazi salute, how would you feel about that? In todays climate, there's no world of difference at all. Delfounso, and several other players, and people in general, have felt strongly enough about current circumstances to do both. You then compare that gesture to someone doing a Nazi salute and ask if I'm thick? 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said: No it won’t, it will mark me out as someone who is sick of this woke society full of people like you who are happy to be conned along by disruptive organisations like BLM using this silly gesture as a political tool. What happened in America should be sorted in America. Our police in Bolton don’t go around throttling people or shooting them in the back, black or white. Both were terrible and should be investigated in the USA but I’m going to a football match and I don’t need to be confronted by a racist, political action before every game starts. I hope everybody who is against this pathetic embarrassment will stand up, turn their back and even boo until it’s put to an end. We're booing it now as well are we? Fuck me! 😂😂😂 Edited September 6, 2020 by kent_white Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Whitesince63 said: Are you completely thick, taking the knee was in support of George Floyd, raising the fist is a black power gesture. There’s a world of difference between the two. If a player remained standing and gave a nazi salute, how would you feel about that? Wow just wow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revelredne1961 Posted September 6, 2020 Share Posted September 6, 2020 I will not be preached to by "I fucked off to Switzerland the minute I made some money" Lewis Hamilton, when I see him take the knee and put his fist in the air I want to puke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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