Mounts Kipper Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 5 hours ago, Horwich said: It was only one level below the one we are actually at now 😳 It’s a big difference in quality terms though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 8 hours ago, Johnnyrotten said:   Hobbs probably doesnt have a club at the moment and Kean Bryan is looking for games. I know its very early days, but both Hobbs and Bryan looked more more comfortable in posession than what we currently have. Chicksen and Emmanuel should also have been retained - easily good enough for this division. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted September 14, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Burndens Bogs said: I know its very early days, but both Hobbs and Bryan looked more more comfortable in posession than what we currently have. Chicksen and Emmanuel should also have been retained - easily good enough for this division. Could be many different reasons why they weren't, but if its because IE didn't want them then we have to back his judgement for now. We were at Walsall in January in BSA's first season & some reckoned he had no idea what he was doing.    It's far too early to say if Evatt will be successful or not but at least he is trying to play football that will be attractive to watch which is something we've had precious little of for over 10 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 From what I have seen so far, I hope Evatt makes the following changes for the next match: tutte for Comley - Comley has looked a clumsy tackler and sloppy passer which we can’t afford in that position. hickman for Santos - move Jones to centre right as he looks better defensively than Santos. Taft for Greenidge - looks a better player. Crawford for Delfouneso - Id like to see AC and Sarcevic working together further up the pitch behind Doyle.  Mascoll for Gordon - Gordon is missing defensively and adds little to the attack. I think that team could get results. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kane57 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Delfouneso has been our best attacker so far. I would be disappointed if he was dropped so quickly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Kane57 said: Delfouneso has been our best attacker so far. I would be disappointed if he was dropped so quickly. Fair point but we need a better midfield base especially away. We just need an extra body in there. You could pick Delfounso instead of Doyle but the latter is a better goal threat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 36 minutes ago, Kane57 said: Delfouneso has been our best attacker so far. I would be disappointed if he was dropped so quickly. This Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 7 minutes ago, RUREADY2ROLL said: This We aren't getting the ball to him. The only way I can see to resolve that is going 3-4-2-1 and we get our two best playmakers in the team (Crawford and Sarcevic). Otherwise Delfounso and Doyle will keep working really hard and getting one chance a match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 From what I've seen so far I wouldn't say Sarce is so much a playmaker as he is an industrious goalscoring midfielder. Crawford needs to play every second that he's fit and we either need to get Darcy adopting that role as the only other player in the squad capable or make a signing for a player that can cover that role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: From what I've seen so far I wouldn't say Sarce is so much a playmaker as he is an industrious goalscoring midfielder. Crawford needs to play every second that he's fit and we either need to get Darcy adopting that role as the only other player in the squad capable or make a signing for a player that can cover that role. Whatever he is, he needs someone to help him there as he is not on the ball enough. I think him and Crawford would do ok together in the right system. The key for me is having Tutte and White playing more holding type roles rather than one getting completely swamped by the opposition. The only downside is playing one forward but as we hardly get the ball to them something has to change IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 minute ago, Farrelli said: Whatever he is, he needs someone to help him there as he is not on the ball enough. I think him and Crawford would do ok together in the right system. The key for me is having Tutte and White playing more holding type roles rather than one getting completely swamped by the opposition. The only downside is playing one forward but as we hardly get the ball to them something has to change IMO. I think the key in this system going forwards isn't so much the midfield, it's the wing backs. They should be the ones getting in behind for cut backs or linking with the midfielder and the advanced wider CB to generate the offensive potential. Neither seem to be offering enough in that department so far, the one time we looked dangerous was when Hickman was offering this ability and we dominated, that needs to be happening constantly if this system is going to work. The midfield is there as a pivot point and to recycle possession until a defender is drawn out to allow a wing back space. I understand the frustration though and I get why you'd want to see more creativity coming through the middle but I honestly don't think that's supposed to be their job and may be why Crawford hasn't started as often as he should. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birch-chorley Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Farrelli said: Fair point but we need a better midfield base especially away. We just need an extra body in there. You could pick Delfounso instead of Doyle but the latter is a better goal threat. Drop another centre back and mob up in midfield Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: I think the key in this system going forwards isn't so much the midfield, it's the wing backs. They should be the ones getting in behind for cut backs or linking with the midfielder and the advanced wider CB to generate the offensive potential. Neither seem to be offering enough in that department so far, the one time we looked dangerous was when Hickman was offering this ability and we dominated, that needs to be happening constantly if this system is going to work. The midfield is there as a pivot point and to recycle possession until a defender is drawn out to allow a wing back space. I understand the frustration though and I get why you'd want to see more creativity coming through the middle but I honestly don't think that's supposed to be their job and may be why Crawford hasn't started as often as he should. Offensive,Pivot point,Recycle ffs Have a nice day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Drop another centre back and mob up in midfield crying out for a back 4 and a extra midfielder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Drop another centre back and mob up in midfield 3 at the back can work with talented CB's but these 3 wouldn't get in the Worcester City side. We need to get Taft and ANO in the Centre and play 4 3 3 or 4 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 I think it's safe to say for at least another 6 weeks you can forget about a change of system. We don't have the attacking options available to switch to something that includes wingers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 6 minutes ago, birch-chorley said: Drop another centre back and mob up in midfield No problem for me but Evatt doesn't seem on for that. He may go for a slight tweak though 3-4-2-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: I think the key in this system going forwards isn't so much the midfield, it's the wing backs. They should be the ones getting in behind for cut backs or linking with the midfielder and the advanced wider CB to generate the offensive potential. Neither seem to be offering enough in that department so far, the one time we looked dangerous was when Hickman was offering this ability and we dominated, that needs to be happening constantly if this system is going to work. The midfield is there as a pivot point and to recycle possession until a defender is drawn out to allow a wing back space. I understand the frustration though and I get why you'd want to see more creativity coming through the middle but I honestly don't think that's supposed to be their job and may be why Crawford hasn't started as often as he should. I agree and that is why I said we should try Hickman and Mascoll next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 crellin  Delaney left back, Jones right back. Zouma Taft in the centre hickman white sarcevic fonz/darcy  doyle   crawford  piss the league with that team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, masi 51 said: crellin  Delaney left back, Jones right back. Zouma Taft in the centre hickman white sarcevic fonz/darcy  doyle   crawford  piss the league with that team Yeah piss the league with at least 4 players out of position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, meanderson93 said: Yeah piss the league with at least 4 players out of position. whose the four??? obviously crawford would play in the hole playing 4312  I should not have to say hickman will play on the right     ok  Crellin gk rb jones lb delaney Zouma c/h taft c/h rm hickman cm sarcevic/Darcy cm white/tutte lm moscalli/Gordon fw crawford/fonz fw Doyle Edited September 14, 2020 by masi 51 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meanderson93 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 Just now, masi 51 said: whose the four??? obviously crawford would play in the hole playing 433 Delaney - Left Back? He's the most centre back, centre back that's ever centre backed. Hickman - You've got in a midfield 3 for some reason, his pace and deliveries would be wasted. Plus can't imagine he'd be disciplined enough central. Crawford - Obviously? you've got him out wide there, where sure he'd whip some crosses in but that's not what Doyle is about. Pointless. Also not got the pace for it. Delfouneso - Can play wide and would graft but deliveries would be non-existent, prefer his industry close to support Doyle. Darcy - On the wing? No thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farrelli Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 13 minutes ago, masi 51 said: crellin  Delaney left back, Jones right back. Zouma Taft in the centre hickman white sarcevic fonz/darcy  doyle   crawford  piss the league with that team No chance. As mentioned by Meanderson too many out of position and a completely new system.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masi 51 Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, meanderson93 said: Delaney - Left Back? He's the most centre back, centre back that's ever centre backed. Hickman - You've got in a midfield 3 for some reason, his pace and deliveries would be wasted. Plus can't imagine he'd be disciplined enough central. Crawford - Obviously? you've got him out wide there, where sure he'd whip some crosses in but that's not what Doyle is about. Pointless. Also not got the pace for it. Delfouneso - Can play wide and would graft but deliveries would be non-existent, prefer his industry close to support Doyle. Darcy - On the wing? No thanks. Options please tell me who you would have as L/b?? Hickman is too attacking to be a right back and jones is a ideal right back so in my opinion on the little i have seen of him right midfield is ideal Formation is adaptable We are debating the way Evatt plays Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted September 14, 2020 Share Posted September 14, 2020 2 minutes ago, masi 51 said: Options please tell me who you would have as L/b?? Hickman is too attacking to be a right back and jones is a ideal right back so in my opinion on the little i have seen of him right midfield is ideal Formation is adaptable We are debating the way Evatt plays The three midfielders in a 4-3-3 are central midfielders. Hickman can play full-back or wing-back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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