Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted September 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2020 There won’t be a next season without a vaccine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghana White Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 I've not looked at it but aren't germany letting something like 5 or 10 thousand into grounds and France is letting fans in as well. I wouldn't have thought it was possible but germans seem pretty on top of most things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 That’s it for this season according to boris if you believe we will be sticking to his 6 months of restrictions Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ghana White said: I've not looked at it but aren't germany letting something like 5 or 10 thousand into grounds and France is letting fans in as well. I wouldn't have thought it was possible but germans seem pretty on top of most things. France is capped at 5,000 and Germany had 4,600-9,300 (10%-25% capacity) at the weekend. Bit of an article here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Very interested now to see what these measures being "urgently discussed" as PM said just then, regarding helping sports clubs are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevieb Posted September 22, 2020 Author Share Posted September 22, 2020 Without significant financial aid the football league as we know it is absolutely fucked. Wigan would be the tip of the iceberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 (edited) 4 minutes ago, stevieb said: Without significant financial aid the football league as we know it is absolutely fucked. Wigan would be the tip of the iceberg. Palios was saying earlier on that there will be a lot of clubs that will be able to manage in the short term, by kicking the can down the road, not paying creditors for a bit - he was saying they wouldnt make a penny if they let 1K fans in anyway, would just cover operating costs - but those with massive wage bills will be in serious danger. Edited September 22, 2020 by peelyfeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Just now, stevieb said: Without significant financial aid the football league as we know it is absolutely fucked. Wigan would be the tip of the iceberg. I cant see it being anything other than a huge financial package with some sort of repayment scheme in the future maybe. It cant be anything else, without that then loads of clubs are going to the wall. Unless we go to the football equivalent of Facebook Karen and think "they" will see this as a great opportunity to cut a lot of loss making chaff out of the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2020 I don't honestly see how leagues 1 & 2 can do a full season without fans. Seems far fetched, but wouldn't be surprised if they scrap it at some point. ifollow won't keep the lights on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leyther_Matt Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, peelyfeet said: Palios was saying earlier on that there will be a lot of clubs that will be able to manage in the short term, by kicking the can down the road, not paying creditors for a bit - he was saying they wouldnt make a penny if they let 1K fans in anyway, would just cover operating costs - but those with massive wage bills will be in serious danger. The key to the 1,000 (or previous 2,500) was to open the possibility of getting back to a decent level though. Wouldn't surprise me if the announcement comes out that clubs are allowed 1,000 but it stays at that limit for the next 6 months and then the clubs get the flak for choosing to go for the cost effective option of playing behind closed doors. An incredible amount of work has gone in to assessing the stadiums - far more than hospitality venues, I'd suggest - and it's a scandal that this is being completely disregarded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 12 minutes ago, Spider said: I don't honestly see how leagues 1 & 2 can do a full season without fans. Seems far fetched, but wouldn't be surprised if they scrap it at some point. ifollow won't keep the lights on. I wonder if last seasons experience has led to more clarity being written into the different leagues' laws about if, when and how seasons can be prematurely ended Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 That surely is the worst possible news for Wigan - as without any serious income streams who is going to buy them ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted September 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 22, 2020 Every cloud Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 22, 2020 Members Share Posted September 22, 2020 A few clubs must be touching cloth now. They need to be seriously looking at stopping the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 5 minutes ago, Rudy said: A few clubs must be touching cloth now. They need to be seriously looking at stopping the season How would that help them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radcliffe white Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rudy said: A few clubs must be touching cloth now. They need to be seriously looking at stopping the season Not 100% but isn’t the national league not starting until fans are back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 22, 2020 Members Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 minute ago, Traf said: How would that help them? Lessen operating costs. All 20 pl league should be contributing into emergency relief pot to stop clubs going bust in unprecedented times. Even if it’s just a loan to get the payments back over the next ten years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted September 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rudy said: Lessen operating costs. All 20 pl league should be contributing into emergency relief pot to stop clubs going bust in unprecedented times. Even if it’s just a loan to get the payments back over the next ten years. I agree As soon as Wigan fold, that's what should happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peelyfeet Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 Sell Wembley for £600 million or whatever it was and give the cash to the clubs, interest free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted September 22, 2020 Moderators Share Posted September 22, 2020 I have just seen Accrington Stanley’s owners head rolling down the road 🤪 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowball Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 16 minutes ago, Horwich said: I have just seen Accrington Stanley’s owners head rolling down the road 🤪 hes a cock anyway. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted September 22, 2020 Share Posted September 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Rudy said: Lessen operating costs. All 20 pl league should be contributing into emergency relief pot to stop clubs going bust in unprecedented times. Even if it’s just a loan to get the payments back over the next ten years. Or maybe, just maybe, football pulls its finger out and settles on a fairer distribution of the income. Clubs are facing extinction over debts amounting to less than a month's wages for a PL player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2020 10 minutes ago, Traf said: Or maybe, just maybe, football pulls its finger out and settles on a fairer distribution of the income. Clubs are facing extinction over debts amounting to less than a month's wages for a PL player. That’s not happening any time soon. Would imagine with the eye watering wage bills some of the prem clubs have, giving some money away, whilst fans not in, would put the willies up em. Reckon Rishi is going to come up with something, though wouldn't imagine it to be a massive hand out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted September 22, 2020 Members Share Posted September 22, 2020 14 minutes ago, Traf said: Or maybe, just maybe, football pulls its finger out and settles on a fairer distribution of the income. Clubs are facing extinction over debts amounting to less than a month's wages for a PL player. I totally agree. It was inevitable when the PL formed as a separate entity it would be a case of pull the ladder up Jack and sod the rest It’s a real real shame that every PL club could operate and probably make a comfortable profit for an entire season behind closed doors, and lower leagues might not see Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted September 22, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted September 22, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rudy said: I totally agree. It was inevitable when the PL formed as a separate entity it would be a case of pull the ladder up Jack and sod the rest It’s a real real shame that every PL club could operate and probably make a comfortable profit for an entire season behind closed doors, and lower leagues might not see Christmas Are you sure they all could? Some will have transfer money to pay from previous deals etc Can't see a benevolent fund suddenly appearing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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