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Looks like that comeback against Barrow has really galvanised the team. Only two negatives from today, Baptiste and Crellin. Don't need to dwell on those as they're plain as day. There are m

I thought Crawford and Delaney were fine tbh. Game of opinions though. 

Delaney - you must be taking the piss because he was very good

8 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

From  memory wasn't Sordell an extremely last minute Panic buy? .

Yes. Davies/Gartside were desperate to sell Cahill to avoid losing him on a free in 6 months. They tried to sell him the summer before but failed so when Cahill was sold mid January the manager was faced with replacing him and trying to get a striker in to a bottom 4 club during the Jan window when traditionally even the big clubs struggle to attract quality.

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9 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

That'd be a bonkers statement to make if he'd won all 11 games so far, never mind one.

Whatever people think of them, the high points of Parky's, Megson's, Coyle's and even Freedman's tenures all just about edge beating Harrogate away.

Just watched the highlights. Very encouraged. when was the last time we scored a goal from sixteen passes in any league?

We will get it right eventually.  injuries not helping and that linesman yesterday robbed us what a fantastic goal that was. Lets stop doubting Evatt, and Sarcevic, and Doyle and Santos and our style and get behind them. And i include myself in that. weve gone from shed load of problems to just two or three now.

Also our luck will turn. injuries a bummer but we can do this.  Absolutely nothing to be frightened of in this league. We are just assembling a squad never mind a team. 20 new players. As GNR said we all need a little patience.

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Having re read Evatt's comments, I think if you swapped 'man up' for 'grow up', it fits the context I believe he meant.

I'm my mind he his telling him that losing first team football matches has consequences, people ultimately lose their jobs, so to get his head on and to realise he not playing youth/reserve football anymore.

Not sure I disagree with him tbh, the trouble is, is Crellin that good to stop the errors??

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2 hours ago, Rudy said:

Crellin should have had his arse handed to him in the dressing room, the full hairdryer treatment in front of everyone.

NEVER EVER to the press. Thats a golden rule. 
IE should have deflected it onto the officials costing us the game not the keeper, even if he didn’t fully believe it.
That sort of thing loses a dressing room. 

On a general note, not aimed at IE as we dont know what was said, but I still dont understand why a player that's made an obvious error has to be bollocked.  Like Crellin is then going to say "oh yeah boss I didnt realise I'd messed up there, thanks for pointing that out, I wont do that again".  I just dont get what it achieves other than resentment and anger.  Its like that Salford documentary where it showed the manager just bollocking everyone after a defeat and losing control, just makes them look amateurish.  A good manager would just work on it on the training ground and talk it through individually.

 

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3 minutes ago, JimmyRiddle said:

Having re read Evatt's comments, I think if you swapped 'man up' for 'grow up', it fits the context I believe he meant.

I'm my mind he his telling him that losing first team football matches has consequences, people ultimately lose their jobs, so to get his head on and to realise he not playing youth/reserve football anymore.

Not sure I disagree with him tbh, the trouble is, is Crellin that good to stop the errors??

Maybe not, but definitely not when his confidence is absolutely shot.

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On a general note, not aimed at IE as we dont know what was said, but I still dont understand why a player that's made an obvious error has to be bollocked.  Like Crellin is then going to say "oh yeah boss I didnt realise I'd messed up there, thanks for pointing that out, I wont do that again".  I just dont get what it achieves other than resentment and anger.  Its like that Salford documentary where it showed the manager just bollocking everyone after a defeat and losing control, just makes them look amateurish.  A good manager would just work on it on the training ground and talk it through individually.

 

Because it’s an emotional game and You want to see a reaction to the anger. It’s not his first clanger either. 

That should have been his bread and butter yesterday.

All the work that’s obviously been done on the training pitch with the defenders went down the swanny with that, that should provoke an angry response IMO

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1 hour ago, snowball said:

Just watched the highlights. Very encouraged. when was the last time we scored a goal from sixteen passes in any league?

We will get it right eventually.  injuries not helping and that linesman yesterday robbed us what a fantastic goal that was. Lets stop doubting Evatt, and Sarcevic, and Doyle and Santos and our style and get behind them. And i include myself in that. weve gone from shed load of problems to just two or three now.

Also our luck will turn. injuries a bummer but we can do this.  Absolutely nothing to be frightened of in this league. We are just assembling a squad never mind a team. 20 new players. As GNR said we all need a little patience.

 

For the most part, I agree with that. He deserves time and no-one knows how he'll pan out. But, the objective for the season wasn't to score one half decent goal and be 18th in League Two. 

Taking into account the league we're in, and our budget relative to the other sides in it... results have been appalling up to this point. If you were making any snap judgements (which you shouldn't) he'd be far closer to the bottom of the list of managers we've had since Big Sam than the top. In fact, he'd be bottom by a clear distance.

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18 minutes ago, Tombwfc said:

 

For the most part, I agree with that. He deserves time and no-one knows how he'll pan out. But, the objective for the season wasn't to score one half decent goal and be 18th in League Two. 

Taking into account the league we're in, and our budget relative to the other sides in it... results have been appalling up to this point. If you were making any snap judgements (which you shouldn't) he'd be far closer to the bottom of the list of managers we've had since Big Sam than the top. In fact, he'd be bottom by a clear distance.

You don't know what our budget is

Aye there's Sarcevic and Doyle and maybe Delfounseo but for each theres 4 or 5 with no real pedigree

unless you think we are paying Greenidge and White big bucks

The club claim to be well under the salary cap and there could be some grey areas around that but nobody outside the club knows

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31 minutes ago, Casino said:

You don't know what our budget is

Aye there's Sarcevic and Doyle and maybe Delfounseo but for each theres 4 or 5 with no real pedigree

unless you think we are paying Greenidge and White big bucks

The club claim to be well under the salary cap and there could be some grey areas around that but nobody outside the club knows

 

Our budget this year will be stronger relative to the other teams in the division than it was when we were in the Premier League, or in the Championship from Lennon-onwards at least. And definitely higher than 18th in League Two. Surely you don't need the balance sheets to know that?

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https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/sport/18820841.amp/?__twitter_impression=true
 

IAN Evatt has apologised for his choice of words in Saturday’s post-match interview at Cambridge United.

The Bolton boss came under fire on social media after saying his 20-year-old keeper Billy Crellin must “man-up” after a series of first team errors.

Speaking to The Bolton News, Evatt admitted he should have chosen his words more carefully but stood by his decision to discuss the Fleetwood loanee’s form in the media.

“The terminology should have been better,” he said. “And I apologise for that if any offence has been caused.

“What I’d meant was that there is a big step up between junior football and senior football and that Billy does have to get to grips with that as soon as possible.

“I have spoken to him this morning and he understands what I meant. He agrees with the sentiment, in fact. So there is no problem there at all.”

Several prominent football voices on had questioned Evatt’s viewpoint, including former Bolton striker Marvin Sordell.

“It baffles me so much. If he thinks his performances have been shaky so far, what does he expect will happen now?” he wrote on Twitter.

Evatt maintains, however, that his words will not have come as any surprise to Crellin or the rest of his team-mates.

“I had spoken to Billy during the week about my concerns and it was the same after the game,” he said. “Nothing I said in the media was any different to what I said to Billy in person.

“Bolton Wanderers fans will know by now that what you see is what you get with me, honesty and clarity. I won’t hide anything. And my players know that as well.

“I fully accept, though, it wasn’t the best choice of phrase and I can’t take that back.

“And I am disappointed that we’re sat talking about this on a Sunday rather than what was a good performance at Cambridge.”

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I’m fully behind Evatt here and still think he talks a good game and admire his honesty. Yes the terminology could’ve been better, but I still think the world’s gone soft. 

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4 hours ago, Tombwfc said:

 

Sure but...

A. It's all relative. None of the teams we're playing now have international footballers either, and their players are all cast offs and bargain basement players too.

B. We're not beating what's in front of us.

You're not wrong pal.

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1 hour ago, Tombwfc said:

 

For the most part, I agree with that. He deserves time and no-one knows how he'll pan out. But, the objective for the season wasn't to score one half decent goal and be 18th in League Two. 

Taking into account the league we're in, and our budget relative to the other sides in it... results have been appalling up to this point. If you were making any snap judgements (which you shouldn't) he'd be far closer to the bottom of the list of managers we've had since Big Sam than the top. In fact, he'd be bottom by a clear distance.

Ridiculous to even be rating him at all yet! 20 new players what dont you get about that? no other manager has been in that position. FFS

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Crellin should have caught that ball yesterday, he seems to worried by what's going on around him, that cross, and a shit one at that was in the air a long time, he also needs to get rid of that Billy Casper hair-do, fucking horrendous crop!

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1 minute ago, JimmyRiddle said:

Maybe, maybe not?

But if really swirling around why not go with the back of two fists, he must be able to get higher than the forwards.

Was just limp what he did

Really difficult to get any momentum to attack the ball via a jump, because it was hanging up for so long- gives a couple of opposition forwards time to do their job by getting in the way.

He needs to get stronger for sure, as he can't keep being physically outcompeted like that. 

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8 hours ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

I said a few weeks ago that IE has similar traits as Keith hill especially with his man management approach

not a fan of it myself let’s hope he knows how far in can push his players 

If players buckle so easily due to being told to 'man up' then they aren't mentally tough enough to take us where we want to go. It's not a 9-5 job, it's a job in which having a strong & winning mentality is vital. If Crellin reacts positively then it's job done, if not he isn't the goalkeeper we need. 

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Just now, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

If players buckle so easily due to being told to 'man up' then they aren't mentally tough enough to take us where we want to go. It's not a 9-5 job, it's a job in which having a strong & winning mentality is vital. If Crellin reacts positively then it's job done, if not he isn't the goalkeeper we need. 

Next game he should jump up for the ball his his foot raised shouting THIS IS SPARTA!! 

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1 minute ago, RONNIE PHILLIPS said:

If players buckle so easily due to being told to 'man up' then they aren't mentally tough enough to take us where we want to go. It's not a 9-5 job, it's a job in which having a strong & winning mentality is vital. If Crellin reacts positively then it's job done, if not he isn't the goalkeeper we need. 

I get that mate just not into this outing players in the media he’s done it a few times now 

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1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

I get that mate just not into this outing players in the media he’s done it a few times now 

Totally accept your point there. He's still on a learning curve & his future is on the line, hopefully things will settle down as results improve..... & I'm still optimistic they will. 

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1 hour ago, radcliffewhite1 said:

I get that mate just not into this outing players in the media he’s done it a few times now 

Agreed, and I actually don't think he is that type of manager, we can only assume that the pressure got to him and he was trying to alleviate that pressure off him on to his players. 

Sometimes though, mistakes like Crellins yesterday are indefensible and perhaps on reflection Evatt really didn't need to have a pop at him, it was there for all to see, Evatts getting a bit impatient and frustrated and he want wins quick.

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