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1 hour ago, Dimron said:

Should have played ugly and parked the bus from the whistle

Their management must have lashed out a tenner for the last couple of matches, and told the strikers to shoot on sight.  Three goals from outside the area ? If they had shot like AC last week we would have been reet.

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Vela was a whopper from day one, he just benefitted from the white tinted specs that so many of our recent 'heroes' have managed - the likes of Wheater, Madine etc. Utter shithouses devoid of any

I’m still very much in Evatts camp. He hasn’t got it right, he knows it and we know it. 20 new players and 10 games in isn’t time to Chuck the towel in. Half this team, TP will have lined up for

Suggesting Saravic isn’t fit was a comment after he tried to win a free kick on the edge of their box .They are local radio tossers & shouldn’t be given one ounce of credibility. Thought the

2 hours ago, Rudy said:

The free kicks are rash, and nervous, some of the stuff is his bread and butter and he knows he should be doing better.

If you pull him out what does that do to his confidence?

Pen Save against Bradford I thought it would do him a world of good, then he saves another and I thought right he’s turning a corner mentally but the simple stuff he’s not getting right. 

Decision making wise he's Jordan Pickford on speed, too many rash charges out to balls that aren't his to get. First half, Santos had to take it away from him and clear it as he wasn't going to get there. Dropped a fairly simple high ball at their lad's feet early on. Pen save on Tues was good but two other aberrations could have cost goals. 

It's not all about him having said that, just a relationship that isn't working for all concerned, back five could do without him behind them, he could do with more solid, reliable customers in front of him. 

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13 minutes ago, desperado said:

You are making more rational points after a defeat than after a win! Like you I thought Rickets would have been a good choice. It just goes to show that as fans our opinion is bluff and bluster. We’re emotionally involved. After an horrific defeat like that I understand why fans will fly off the handle and demand IEs head and throw out a whole load of suggestions as to what would have made it better.

The truth is a win (which looks fictional after a result like today) would have everybody back on side and looking back on today as a blip and part of a learning curve if IE/the players address some of the issues with today’s defeat. 

IE has a lot more work on to get fans back on board after today's debacle. Crellin in goal and/or no keeper on the bench against Mansfield & I'll be convinced we have another Freedman on ours hands. 

     I'm hoping he gets it right as I can see what he wants to achieve but results must come first & then he will get the time to instil his philosophy. Pragmatism is the watchword for now. 

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12 minutes ago, ianofcleveleys said:

Decision making wise he's Jordan Pickford on speed, too many rash charges out to balls that aren't his to get. First half, Santos had to take it away from him and clear it as he wasn't going to get there. Dropped a fairly simple high ball at their lad's feet early on. Pen save on Tues was good but two other aberrations could have cost goals. 

It's not all about him having said that, just a relationship that isn't working for all concerned, back five could do without him behind them, he could do with more solid, reliable customers in front of him. 

I'm with you on most points but tbf he didn't actually have too much to do today but he makes such a mess of most situations that it feels like we are under constant bombardment. 

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I feel sorry for the lad. Too much too soon not ready. A massive risk from Evatt to install such an inexperienced loan signing as first choice without any obvious back up. Doesnt say much for his or Gilks judgement either. How he deals with this could be make or break for him here now.

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32 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

Vela was a whopper from day one, he just benefitted from the white tinted specs that so many of our recent 'heroes' have managed - the likes of Wheater, Madine etc.

Utter shithouses devoid of any real talent, and a fanbase desperate to feel a connection to someone, anyone with even a sniff of personality was given the benefit of the doubt to disregard the almost complete lack of footballing talent as we slid down the leagues with barely a whimper.

Tremendous 

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12 minutes ago, desperado said:

You are making more rational points after a defeat than after a win! Like you I thought Rickets would have been a good choice. It just goes to show that as fans our opinion is bluff and bluster. We’re emotionally involved. After an horrific defeat like that I understand why fans will fly off the handle and demand IEs head and throw out a whole load of suggestions as to what would have made it better.

The truth is a win (which looks fictional after a result like today) would have everybody back on side and looking back on today as a blip and part of a learning curve if IE/the players address some of the issues with today’s defeat. 

Yes, course we dont really know, but then again neither do the people appointing them (not just talking about BW, most clubs the same).  Like us, they go off a few results in the preceding 6 or 12 months, and how they sound at interview (in our case, when interviewed in the media).  So of course Evatt, Ricketts and Ryan Lowe sounded like good bets.  At the moment only 1 of those is having a decent season, but we hope that changes.  If we were shopping in a different market we could go for nailed on, proven seasoned managers like Gary Rowett, Neil Harris, Gareth Ainsorth and now I'd say Michael Appleton (Millwall punching well above their weight getting Harris and Rowett consecutively; Holloway and Jackett weren't bad either).  John Coleman doesnt sound like the worst option we could have gone for in hindsight, especially given that he plays good football alongside good results.

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52 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

Vela was a whopper from day one, he just benefitted from the white tinted specs that so many of our recent 'heroes' have managed - the likes of Wheater, Madine etc.

Utter shithouses devoid of any real talent, and a fanbase desperate to feel a connection to someone, anyone with even a sniff of personality was given the benefit of the doubt to disregard the almost complete lack of footballing talent as we slid down the leagues with barely a whimper.

True that.

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56 minutes ago, Kane57 said:

Vela was a whopper from day one, he just benefitted from the white tinted specs that so many of our recent 'heroes' have managed - the likes of Wheater, Madine etc.

Utter shithouses devoid of any real talent, and a fanbase desperate to feel a connection to someone, anyone with even a sniff of personality was given the benefit of the doubt to disregard the almost complete lack of footballing talent as we slid down the leagues with barely a whimper.

Of those 3 I wouldnt put Wheater in the same category as the other 2 untalented over rated "heroes".  Wheater was a championship standard defender all day long (not quick enough for Prem).  Many a game he was one of our best players and earned us points we probably didnt deserve, I never once came away from a game thinking Vela or Madine made the difference, even if they scored.  Career spoiled by some injuries, but one to have in the trenches.  Vela and Madine Div 1 at best, very average footballers who were lucky that BWFC, and Parky, had a big say in their careers. 

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2 hours ago, hughmungus said:

Would be nice if supporters like you got their head out of Evatts arse and realised how inept the fucker is maybe 

You mean supporters like me “judge what we see” rather than calling him shit from day 1 before you’ve even given him a chance? 🤣 🤡 🤡 🤡 

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3 hours ago, Whitesince63 said:

It’s Phoenix who should go, he’s the one who’s brought this shower in not Evatt.

My last 7 years before retirement was spent managing venture capital backed businesses. The no 1 trait VCs looked for in management was relevant experience and a track record. So if FV are really true VCs, I just can't fathom backing Phoenix and Evatt who between them have less League management experience than you can count on the fingers of one hand.

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10 minutes ago, passmosster said:

My last 7 years before retirement was spent managing venture capital backed businesses. The no 1 trait VCs looked for in management was relevant experience and a track record. So if FV are really true VCs, I just can't fathom backing Phoenix and Evatt who between them have less League management experience than you can count on the fingers of one hand.

FV went of Peter Kenyon’s recommendation for employing Phoenix . Hope he didn’t charge us for it 

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7 minutes ago, Take Hunt Off said:

Can you imagine Rioch Allardyce Greaves Todd perciviering with a mortal weakness like our goalie ??

It's not an insurmountable problem. 

It certainly seems insurmountable. He’s been very much a calamitous liability all season but without an adequate replacement we’re bollocksed.

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36 minutes ago, passmosster said:

My last 7 years before retirement was spent managing venture capital backed businesses. The no 1 trait VCs looked for in management was relevant experience and a track record. So if FV are really true VCs, I just can't fathom backing Phoenix and Evatt who between them have less League management experience than you can count on the fingers of one hand.

You could argue that they did that with Hill though in fairness

So they tried something different maybe?

As was said earlier by another poster, not many of us had a moan when he was recruited

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