Dr Faustus Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 6 minutes ago, Horwich said: His distribution is pretty decent. Maybe this is what the new football boss wants. personally, I would want a clean sheet. i think he wants both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 6, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Dr Faustus said: i think he wants both I guess its what all managers want With this chap, he's too good a footballer and currently not a good enough stopper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr Faustus Posted November 6, 2020 Share Posted November 6, 2020 35 minutes ago, Casino said: I guess its what all managers want With this chap, he's too good a footballer and currently not a good enough stopper I've heard it a lot with grass roots kids, who are really good shot stoppers, but can't kick for shit. Then their coaches are dumbfounded when they turned down by clubs. These are the 'now' keepers: reckon they've all got the ability, but no fundamental skills. Unfortunately, I think we may need a now keeper, rather than waiting for this one to come good for someone else. If BC was in a development squad I'd be delighted... I did a session recently with a few of grass roots keepers at NW. It was a disaster as they couldn't provide each other service, literally missing the changing rooms for five yards. As a nation we need to change: all kids need to become footballers before they learn a position. The next generation of keepers will need to be equally adept with the ball at their feet as they do in their hands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter desperado Posted November 7, 2020 Author Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 13 hours ago, Dr Faustus said: I've heard it a lot with grass roots kids, who are really good shot stoppers, but can't kick for shit. Then their coaches are dumbfounded when they turned down by clubs. These are the 'now' keepers: reckon they've all got the ability, but no fundamental skills. Unfortunately, I think we may need a now keeper, rather than waiting for this one to come good for someone else. If BC was in a development squad I'd be delighted... I did a session recently with a few of grass roots keepers at NW. It was a disaster as they couldn't provide each other service, literally missing the changing rooms for five yards. As a nation we need to change: all kids need to become footballers before they learn a position. The next generation of keepers will need to be equally adept with the ball at their feet as they do in their hands. Yeh that’s a good point. Being a good shot stopper is just not good enough now. And the youth development point you make is equally as valid. It’s going to take a few years before we see the benefits of the approach of versatile footballers who’ve had child football playing in varied positions, not being pigeon holed into one position, being encouraged to play and not worry about results, futsal and small sided game approach. I think this approach is right. However it doesn’t help IE in the immediate. If you had a young lad who was an established great shot stopper and comfortable sweeper keeper he wouldn’t be reserve at Fleetwood and struggling in a first 11 in League 2. Potential is all well and good, but with the ambition we have we’ve no time to allow him to grow and make mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted November 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 I know football moves on but give me a keeper who’s a decent shot stopper, commands his 6 yard box and has a gob like Les Sealy/John Burridge and I couldn’t care less if he’s on stumps. Being comfortable with the ball at his feet is the least important part for me and we’ll go back to that after stats prove sweeper keepers do more harm than good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2020 Stats won't ever 'prove' that imo I do reckon that atm theres not enough good ones for a team in division 4 to buy one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 When did we release Jussi’s lad? About the same time as Jimmy Phillips’ son? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Steejay Posted November 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 44 minutes ago, MickyD said: When did we release Jussi’s lad? About the same time as Jimmy Phillips’ son? I saw him concede 6 at Chorley just before we released him. He wasn't very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter barryk32 Posted November 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 Yes. The cunt owes me a tenner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Escobarp Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, MickyD said: When did we release Jussi’s lad? About the same time as Jimmy Phillips’ son? Jimmys lad refused to sign a new deal. Head had been turned already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
little whitt Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 what's BRIXTON the cat up too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lt. Aldo Raine Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 2 hours ago, MickyD said: When did we release Jussi’s lad? About the same time as Jimmy Phillips’ son? I might be dead wrong with this, but I think we kept Jussi's lad on instea of Aaron Ramsdale, and then released him a few years later. I think Phillips left before him, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 He's way too good for this level but according to wiki is still a free agent. Does no one at the club still have Lonergan's number? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Horwich Posted November 7, 2020 Moderators Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) I would have signed Jussi years ago and asked him to work on a daily basis with his son. instead, we signed Ben Amos on a £10,000 per week 4 year contract 🙄 Edited November 7, 2020 by Horwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 5 minutes ago, Horwich said: I would have signed Jussi years ago and asked him to work in a daily basis with his son. instead, we signed Ben Amos on a £10,000 per week 4 year contract 🙄 And a succession of goal-keeper coaches who, let’s be honest, are hardly household names in footballing terms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 Ali al Habsi announced his retirement in August. This makes him available to us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Biggish Dave Posted November 7, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2020 I'd still ask Jussi to come in coaching - even short term, to get Gilks up to speed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duck Egg Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 30 minutes ago, Horwich said: I would have signed Jussi years ago and asked him to work in a daily basis with his son. instead, we signed Ben Amos on a £10,000 per week 4 year contract 🙄 He was actually on 16k a week 😠 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marple whites Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 This clown has gone beyond excuses now. time to eff off back to where you came from I’m afraid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 15 minutes ago, marple whites said: This clown has gone beyond excuses now. time to eff off back to where you came from I’m afraid. Africa? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burndens Bogs Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr Grey said: Fred Barber, I'd have Fred between the sticks before Casper. I’d have fuckin Fred West before Crellin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 34 minutes ago, Burndens Bogs said: I’d have fuckin Fred West before Crellin. I'd have John West. Only the best. And he's great with nets, ask the dolphins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superkev Posted November 7, 2020 Share Posted November 7, 2020 4 minutes ago, Traf said: I'd have John West. Only the best. And he's great with nets, ask the dolphins. And a great skipper Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted November 7, 2020 Members Share Posted November 7, 2020 (edited) Wrong thread Edited November 7, 2020 by Rudy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter RONNIE PHILLIPS Posted November 8, 2020 Site Supporter Share Posted November 8, 2020 I think he's training with Go West... "We close our eyes" 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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