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We can't, Shirley, be debating whether or not Madonna wS a great player.

But he was a moral vacuum both whilst a player and off field at that time & later.

Too many people féted him and forgave him any misdemeanor when he might have benefited from firmer management.

So, extremely talented, hugely flawed.

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1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

If you're on about  Gary Lineker being up with the all time greats you are another one having a laugh. 

England came up against a genuine world class striker two years later in Euro 88, Van Basten put 3 in  the back of their net. Mind you England were so wank in 88 even the Irish beat them. Lineker, Beardsley, Barnes - all over rated players in the team battered by Van Basten and embarrassed by the Irish.I suppose those defeats were somebody elses fault

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Didn't Lineker have Hepatitis at Euro 88 ? , and whatever you say regarding Lineker being over rated he scored 10 Goals at the World Cup finals , which by the way was 10 more than Van Basten ever managed at a World Cup.

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57 minutes ago, dusan nikolic said:

Didn't Lineker have Hepatitis at Euro 88 ? , and whatever you say regarding Lineker being over rated he scored 10 Goals at the World Cup finals , which by the way was 10 more than Van Basten ever managed at a World Cup.

You tell the bitter red twat Dusan. oh and Rodge this thread is about Maradona so i dont care about how shit England were subsequently.  We didnt even qualify for world cups in 90"s so we all.know how shit we were. We dont need a rag pointing that out

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1 hour ago, dusan nikolic said:

Didn't Lineker have Hepatitis at Euro 88 ? , and whatever you say regarding Lineker being over rated he scored 10 Goals at the World Cup finals , which by the way was 10 more than Van Basten ever managed at a World Cup.

Can't stand Lineker at the mo, overpaid and hate his opinions and how he voices them. But as a modern day striker playing up front on his own, he was superb, better than Shearer IMHO, for what its worth

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10 hours ago, Spider said:

If Messi and Ronaldo both put 2 stone weight on each, Messi would be the better player

Messi has that touch of magic that can’t be taught.


Ronaldo is a wonderful player but has worked on his physicality, speed and shooting.

Messi just has that touch.

Messi can't head it like Ronaldo can

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8 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

You are having a laugh. At that level the best team wins the tournament.

Greece?

And we had Harry Kane as top scorer last time out

But I agree, too much bitterness towards a goal from 34 years ago 

Bearing in mind we went ahead in the World Cup final with a questionable one in 66

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, nantwichwhite said:

Can't stand Lineker at the mo, overpaid and hate his opinions and how he voices them. But as a modern day striker playing up front on his own, he was superb, better than Shearer IMHO, for what its worth

Nah, Lineker barely scored outside the six yard box, a top quality finisher no doubt in the same bracket as van nistelroy, but shearer could twat them in from distance

 

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37 minutes ago, ZicoKelly said:

Greece?

And we had Harry Kane as top scorer last time out

But I agree, too much bitterness towards a goal from 34 years ago 

Bearing in mind we went ahead in the World Cup final with a questionable one in 66

 

 

 

 

It wasn't forearmed into the net though.

Anyway, the reaction over there is something else. Bonkers.

They're loopy.

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4 hours ago, dusan nikolic said:

Didn't Lineker have Hepatitis at Euro 88 ? , and whatever you say regarding Lineker being over rated he scored 10 Goals at the World Cup finals , which by the way was 10 more than Van Basten ever managed at a World Cup.

On reflection I was harsh on Lineker, he was a world class goalscorer although in a lower tier of world class than some including Van Basten.It's all about opinions, mine is that Van Basten was the world's best attacking player in the gap between Maradona's peak and Messi/Ronaldo. 

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1 hour ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

On reflection I was harsh on Lineker, he was a world class goalscorer although in a lower tier of world class than some including Van Basten.It's all about opinions, mine is that Van Basten was the world's best attacking player in the gap between Maradona's peak and Messi/Ronaldo. 

Baggio 

Ronaldo

Rivaldo

Figo

Ronaldinho

Zidane

 

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9 hours ago, Rudy said:

Baggio 

Ronaldo

Rivaldo

Figo

Ronaldinho

Zidane

 

There were some great players in that era but none quite up with the footballing gods of Maradona, Ronaldo and Messi.If millions of football fans were polled i reckon the top 3 in no particular order would be Ronaldo, Zidane and Van Basten with my vote going to Van Basten.

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Well a slightly different way to ask it. Let's say you've got a team who are "doing a Leicester" in the Prem, so really motoring, playing for each other and getting the results without mega stars being present. But unlike Leicester's season, a couple of the big boys are also on form and so you need summat extra to keep up with them and then crack on to the title.  You get to draft in one player of your choice from of all the great names in the thread, at any position, in order to push on for the title. Which one?

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59 minutes ago, SatanGreavsie said:

Well a slightly different way to ask it. Let's say you've got a team who are "doing a Leicester" in the Prem, so really motoring, playing for each other and getting the results without mega stars being present. But unlike Leicester's season, a couple of the big boys are also on form and so you need summat extra to keep up with them and then crack on to the title.  You get to draft in one player of your choice from of all the great names in the thread, at any position, in order to push on for the title. Which one?

Messi

Or Zidane

Or Lothar Matthaus ( Not on any list on here yet, but probably my favourite midfielder of all time)

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Barcelona scouting report on 17 year old Maradona in 1978

 

PLAYER REPORT: Diego Armando Maradona

GRADING ASSESSMENT: Very good, extraordinary. Speed 9.5. Starting Speed 9.5. With Ball 9.1. Without Ball 9.5. Agility 9.5. Jump power 8.

MORAL CONDITION: Mental strength 10. Power of suffering 10. Concentration 10. Selfish 0. Personality 10.

GENERAL TECHNIQUE: Unbeatable

SPECIFIED TECHNIQUE: Extraordinary, effective and just dribbling. Excellent power. Extraordinary courage. Extraordinary efficiency. Very good shot. Great passing. Total accuracy. Complete vision. Average heading. Good leadership. Very good power to retain the ball. Extraordinary ball protection.

INDIVIDUAL TACTICS: Complete intelligence in football. Complete sense for football. Good view. Very good speed in efficiency.

GENERAL CONCLUSIONS: Young. He was born on 30/10/1960. He has prodigious technical qualities, easy dribbling. He has a straight line vision facing the goal, but he knows how to get rid of the ball for the best placed teammate. Extraordinary reflexes. He protects the ball very well to play it immediately with great efficiency. His short passes and shots are pure wonder. Prodigious changes of pace.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2019/12/09/5deea64622601d84558b4632.html

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2 hours ago, Roger_Dubuis said:

Barcelona scouting report on 17 year old Maradona in 1978

 

PLAYER REPORT: Diego Armando Maradona

GRADING ASSESSMENT: Very good, extraordinary. Speed 9.5. Starting Speed 9.5. With Ball 9.1. Without Ball 9.5. Agility 9.5. Jump power 8.

MORAL CONDITION: Mental strength 10. Power of suffering 10. Concentration 10. Selfish 0. Personality 10.

GENERAL TECHNIQUE: Unbeatable

SPECIFIED TECHNIQUE: Extraordinary, effective and just dribbling. Excellent power. Extraordinary courage. Extraordinary efficiency. Very good shot. Great passing. Total accuracy. Complete vision. Average heading. Good leadership. Very good power to retain the ball. Extraordinary ball protection.

INDIVIDUAL TACTICS: Complete intelligence in football. Complete sense for football. Good view. Very good speed in efficiency.

GENERAL CONCLUSIONS: Young. He was born on 30/10/1960. He has prodigious technical qualities, easy dribbling. He has a straight line vision facing the goal, but he knows how to get rid of the ball for the best placed teammate. Extraordinary reflexes. He protects the ball very well to play it immediately with great efficiency. His short passes and shots are pure wonder. Prodigious changes of pace.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2019/12/09/5deea64622601d84558b4632.html

They missed out Handball technique magnificent, God like, 10.

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