kent_white Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Just now, blackleywhite said: So play Crawford there or Darcy or a.n. other attacking player instead of a fucking defender! Ali Crawford at LWB? Jesus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, blackleywhite said: In the system we play im not sure we should even call the wing backs wing backs. How much actual defending do they do? They are wide midfielders or wingers. So play attacking players in those positions (he does on the right but not the left?) instead of defenders. Can't do that with the 3 we have in midfield; we get overran as it is. You'd need Tutte and another battler plus a point man of one of Sarc / Crawford / Thomason Could work if we had the right man to go alongside Tutte I can't get over how disappointed I've been with Sarc and Crawford - largely so ineffective with the sporadic bit of class. Is it them just not being that good; or the formation?; or those around them?; or Evatt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, jules_darby said: As an aside to the blame was it a pen for handball these days if it hits the arm it is right? So did it? I’ve no idea I shouted pengy in true supporter style but haven’t got a foggiest if the ball did make contact with the arm. Thomasson went down with the commentator excitedly suggesting he’d been bundled over but that one to me looked like he just fell over! Doyle surprised me how he got on the end of the cross where he hit the bar, surprised me that the centre half didn’t get to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 (edited) That last 20 was as good as you will see in this division. Only their goalie stopped us scoring by having the game of his life. Questions need to be asked why it takes them scoring for us to spring in to life, which has been a common occurrence. Im adamant its down to personnel. Evatt needs a window to sort that defence out and if that's managed we're the best team in the division by a mile. Itll be reet. Edited January 2, 2021 by gonzo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kent_white Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 4 minutes ago, jules_darby said: As an aside to the blame was it a pen for handball these days if it hits the arm it is right? So did it? I’ve no idea I didn't think so at the time but everybody else in the ground seemed to! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 2, 2021 Members Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, blackleywhite said: So play Crawford there or Darcy or a.n. other attacking player instead of a fucking defender! Crikey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morizio Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, kent_white said: Ali Crawford at LWB? Jesus. Yeah but it works on fm21 after saving and reloading. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 After going behind, the way we played is how I thought we’d be under Evatt. Mind boggling stuff. Seems obvious to everyone we look more dangerous playing crosses into a centralised Doyle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 This window is massive for IE he recruits right and shows signs of improvement fans will stay on board he doesn’t and fans will detach all over again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 22 minutes ago, Casino said: Mad hes taking them No word of a lie, he was practising them with Thomasson before Cheltenham 😀 As pointed out by Steve Eyre though, he's a centre half, why would he have ever taken a throw in? Sorry but another black mark for IE, its square pegs in round holes, we've got 10 outfield players and for me 40% of them are playing in positions that don't make the best use of their ability, only Santos of the "back 5" looks comfortable with his position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, Rudy said: Isgrove pulls it back to Fonz 1-0 Doyle heads that in 1-1 Fonz puts that away 2-1 Fine margins but we are getting there. Recruit well abs all you need is a strong quarter of a season and you’ll fly up the league Sorry I'm not having it rude boy The thing that's doing my head in most is that I don't think we are "getting there" as other than finally dumping Crellin and Comley & their associated gaffs, nothing is changing really Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DazBob Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 We only look good offensively when teams sit back against us. We simply have to move the ball quicker and get the midfield to support the attack. We have the players to do it but something just isn't clicking. Hopefully getting a left footer in there will help. Massive transfer window ahead for Evatt and BWFC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUREADY2ROLL Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 12 minutes ago, Super Bock said: Well hopefully that removes any lingering doubt about the current squad getting it together. We need a very active transfer window and Evatt deserves a crack at it. Doyle really is a cut above the rest in this league and priority number one should be getting the ball to his feet in the box. A decent striker would have scored at least two with Doyle's chances today. He has been a massive let down IMO. His play when he comes back looking for the ball as been atrocious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter superjohnmcginlay Posted January 2, 2021 Site Supporter Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, DazBob said: We only look good offensively when teams sit back against us. We simply have to move the ball quicker and get the midfield to support the attack. We have the players to do it but something just isn't clicking. Hopefully getting a left footer in there will help. Massive transfer window ahead for Evatt and BWFC. Agree with it being a massive window for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jules_darby Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, radcliffewhite1 said: This window is massive for IE he recruits right and shows signs of improvement fans will stay on board he doesn’t and fans will detach all over again That's where I'm at I've backed IE but I'm getting increasingly annoyed at our inability to learn Fingers crossed it's just that a few individuals are incapable of that and the window sorts it out Let's see what happens. No point giving him the Spanish archer now But if it doesn't improve, he has to be accountable for me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under_Score Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, kent_white said: I think you need to rewatch the game today when you've calmed down a bit. And I also reckon you should rematch some of the games from the beginning of the season. The current side would beat that side about 5-0. I don’t need to rewatch the game, you are basing your opinion on the performance that we put in between 70-90mins and if I did that, I’d probably have a different opinion. If I asked you to rewatch the game between 0-70mins then you would have a different opinion of today’s game. The games 90+ mins long and when their goal came, it didn’t go against the run of play and Gilks did well a couple of times to keep us in it. Overall we should have got something from that game, but we didn’t and that’s how the record books will remember it. Evatt didn’t change system as we have become accustomed to and didn’t make one substitution to try and change it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tomski Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Every home game is the same. We are predictable beyond belief at home. I think teams sit off us for 15 minutes as we create fuck all and then pick us off after that. Worst ever BWFC team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rizlar Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 If he persists in 3-5-2 he as to get a LWB and a central midfielder to play alongside Tutte . Also we need to play at a quicker tempo we are at best ponderous like somebody said we have to go behind before we play quicker. The table doesnt lie if he doesnt get the players in I fear we could be involved in yet another relegation battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 2, 2021 Members Share Posted January 2, 2021 3 minutes ago, jules_darby said: Sorry I'm not having it rude boy The thing that's doing my head in most is that I don't think we are "getting there" as other than finally dumping Crellin and Comley & their associated gaffs, nothing is changing really Going off the “quality of player” how many of our squad would get into another team in the top half of this league? Not many. Can’t sign 20 players and expect them all to be great. The wing back position needs sorting, middle of the park does. He’s got this window to get it right. It’ll come good trust me hun Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackleywhite Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Rudy said: Crikey. We play 3 centre backs and 2 holding (shit, but holding) midfielders. I'd love to see a positioning map of our 2 "wingbacks" and see how much actual defending they do. I'm guessing next to fuck all. He plays them as wingers so play attackers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianofcleveleys Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 I'm as prepared as many others on here evidently are to give Evatt this window and enough games after for whoever he signs to bed in and take effect. I think he knows what needs to change to make us more effective in this Division. In the short term though, during Jan, he's going to have to find a different way of getting the best out of what he's got, stop us being a soft touch and get some points on the board, just to steady the nerves a bit. We did play well for 20 mins once we'd gone behind, as we upped the intensity and workrate 20% from the previous hour. We have too many in our team who only seem capable of producing in little 10-15 minute bursts, when the opponents sit back and let them play. Yet again they went through us far too easily and got at the back three, with Tutte being over run while none of the rest of our midfield could lay a glove on them. There wasn't much between the teams, and over the 90 minutes, on chances and situations created, we didn't deserve to lose, but yet again we had long periods of the game where we lost the initiative and let them impose themselves on us, rather than us on them. 21 games in, plus cup ties, the penny ought to have dropped as to the levels that are consistently required in this Division, over the course of a game and a run of games. Not enough of our squad appear up for that challenge and it needs reshaping significantly. I'm not in the 'just a couple short of being contenders' camp I'm afraid. Next two games are tough to say the least and by the time Evatt has got a few of those new bodies in they could be coming into a pretty sticky situation where big characters will be required Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnyrotten Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Last team to fail to score against Crawley at home was Salford on 8th Feb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underpants Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 Anyone still think we'll go up? Utter shite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted January 2, 2021 Members Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, blackleywhite said: We play 3 centre backs and 2 holding (shit, but holding) midfielders. I'd love to see a positioning map of our 2 "wingbacks" and see how much actual defending they do. I'm guessing next to fuck all. He plays them as wingers so play attackers. Doesn’t mean we should just throw in darcey there. It’s the hardest position in a team to play and the person playing it needs to be a natural there. Square pegs and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 2, 2021 Share Posted January 2, 2021 1 minute ago, jules_darby said: That's where I'm at I've backed IE but I'm getting increasingly annoyed at our inability to learn Fingers crossed it's just that a few individuals are incapable of that and the window sorts it out Let's see what happens. No point giving him the Spanish archer now But if it doesn't improve, he has to be accountable for me Yes it’s still all relatively close in terms of league table so there’s time however come March/April and it’s still the same get rid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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