Site Supporter Spider Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 https://www.telegraph.co.uk/world-news/2022/02/23/russia-deploys-mobile-crematorium-follow-troops-battle/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Boats aren't allowed in British ports neither. Presumably other nations are following suit. Trade just isn't quite so easy any more. China rides to the rescue  China Mops Up Discounted Urals Cargoes. With two VLCCs chartered over the past couple of days to be loaded from the Skaw ship-to-ship transfer spot off Denmark, both by Chinese companies, it seems that Beijing is capitalizing on plummeting Urals differentials, down to a -$12/barrel discount to Dated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 37 minutes ago, Not in Crawley said: Do you really not see where your strategy would in all likelihood lead? I'm not an expert but it's blatantly obvious to most. Hence the comment. The general opinion seems to be that Putin is looking to create a legacy as the being the man who restored the Soviet Union which means he will not stop at Ukraine so he has to be stopped. Nuclear weapons? not a chance, who will be left to gaze in awe at this man who restored the Soviet Union because if he does press the button so will everybody else Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: The general opinion seems to be that Putin is looking to create a legacy as the being the man who restored the Soviet Union which means he will not stop at Ukraine so he has to be stopped. Nuclear weapons? not a chance, who will be left to gaze in awe at this man who restored the Soviet Union because if he does press the button so will everybody else Crawley knows best he’s a man of diplomacy. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, tyldesley_white said: China rides to the rescue  China Mops Up Discounted Urals Cargoes. With two VLCCs chartered over the past couple of days to be loaded from the Skaw ship-to-ship transfer spot off Denmark, both by Chinese companies, it seems that Beijing is capitalizing on plummeting Urals differentials, down to a -$12/barrel discount to Dated. Of course China will take advantage, but they're not going to be able to buy everything the west doesn't. They'd need ever more storage capacity assuming the restrictions are in place for some considerable time. How long will the Russians continue to sell stuff on the cheap too? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted March 1, 2022 Moderators Share Posted March 1, 2022 Still reckon Chinese will buy Along with loads of mineral stocks Might get interesting if russians down tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 7 minutes ago, athywhite1958 said: The general opinion seems to be that Putin is looking to create a legacy as the being the man who restored the Soviet Union which means he will not stop at Ukraine so he has to be stopped. Nuclear weapons? not a chance, who will be left to gaze in awe at this man who restored the Soviet Union because if he does press the button so will everybody else This time last week, nobody believed Putin would invade Ukraine... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheese said: This time last week, nobody believed Putin would invade Ukraine... Spider did! Still find it astonishing to think that Putin would use them, but it's as if he and Lavrov amongst others might have a bit of a death wish: either we get want we want, or no one gets anything. Chinese may have something to say though if it looked like they were heading too far that way.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Casino said: Still reckon Chinese will buy Along with loads of mineral stocks Might get interesting if russians down tools With most of the oil majors pulling out ( Total being the only one left) , when thing start to breakdown they will stay broke, which will hit both oil and gas production  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Spider did! Still find it astonishing to think that Putin would use them, but it's as if he and Lavrov amongst others might have a bit of a death wish: either we get want we want, or no one gets anything. Chinese may have something to say though if it looked like they were heading too far that way. What could China possibly do? Whatever happens, at the moment it looks like WW3 is a very real possibility. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Cheese said: What could China possibly do? Whatever happens, at the moment it looks like WW3 is a very real possibility. I think China currently have a fair amount of sway with the Russians. Might well be enough to ensure individuals within the Russian hierarchy can stop Putin if it was required. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 11 hours ago, kent_white said: And talked about withdrawing from NATO don't forget...... Due to many members of NATO not fulfilling their obligation to spend at least 2% of GDP on defence. He may be an orange twat but he called it correctly on that occasion as the few countries that spent the 2% minimum where being taken for a ride, I note that Germany have finally announced this week that they're going to stop swinging the lead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, tkonion said: Due to many members of NATO not fulfilling their obligation to spend at least 2% of GDP on defence. He may be an orange twat but he called it correctly on that occasion as the few countries that spent the 2% minimum where being taken for a ride, I note that Germany have finally announced this week that they're going to stop swinging the lead. I’m very pleased someone paying attention, couldn’t be arsed making the same point earlier today. Well done sir. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post wanderer1984 Posted March 1, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 1, 2022 A short tale you may or may not be interested in. Think I've mentioned on here before that my Dad is married to a Ukrainian. They've been married for 12 years now and both spend 6 months of year in Ukraine. They have a flat in central Kiev where her two daughters live (31&33) one works for the government but I'm not sure what role she undertakes. On Monday they went to a village called Vysoke to stay with my dad's wife's sister. Vysoke is approximately 60km west from Kiev. Gunfire could be heard as well as explosions in the distance so they went back to Kiev. Yesterday morning their farther picked them up and headed west to Lviv (550km) from Kiev. Abandoning the car in the city they took a bus to the Polish border. Officials on the Ukrainian side checked paper work and said they could pass through but because their farther is 60 he'd have to stay. I've just had a call off my Dad to say the daughters wouldn't leave him on his own so somehow got someone to smuggle him through in a boot of a car! All in Poland now. Think his sister lives in Ipswich so he'll be heading there. The girls will be heading for Blackpool where my Dad and step mum live. Oh... and they brought the dog too. Chuffed they managed to get out and are now safe.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, tkonion said: Due to many members of NATO not fulfilling their obligation to spend at least 2% of GDP on defence. He may be an orange twat but he called it correctly on that occasion as the few countries that spent the 2% minimum where being taken for a ride, I note that Germany have finally announced this week that they're going to stop swinging the lead. Aye. Can understand the German stance- been that way since the war, but time now to pull their weight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tkonion Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 12 hours ago, Farrelli said: We cannot put forces on the ground, it would be lunacy. There is no perfect answer but we have to go down the sanctions route or we are all screwed. I wish I had your confidence that he won't see NATO's lack of direct intervention as a sign of weakness and push on into some other nation (if he does manage to overcome Ukraine). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: A short tale you may or may not be interested in. Think I've mentioned on here before that my Dad is married to a Ukrainian. They've been married for 12 years now and both spend 6 months of year in Ukraine. They have a flat in central Kiev where her two daughters live (31&33) one works for the government but I'm not sure what role she undertakes. On Monday they went to a village called Vysoke to stay with my dad's wife's sister. Vysoke is approximately 60km west from Kiev. Gunfire could be heard as well as explosions in the distance so they went back to Kiev. Yesterday morning their farther picked them up and headed west to Lviv (550km) from Kiev. Abandoning the car in the city they took a bus to the Polish border. Officials on the Ukrainian side checked paper work and said they could pass through but because their farther is 60 he'd have to stay. I've just had a call off my Dad to say the daughters wouldn't leave him on his own so somehow got someone to smuggle him through in a boot of a car! All in Poland now. Think his sister lives in Ipswich so he'll be heading there. The girls will be heading for Blackpool where my Dad and step mum live. Oh... and they brought the dog too. Chuffed they managed to get out and are now safe.  Great news, pleased for them that they are safe and well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickbrown Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 hour ago, stevieb said: Did we get a 71 pager in 2014? Or are we all frothing at the gash now it's on tele.  Was there a big fuck off war in 2014? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted March 1, 2022 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: Think his sister lives in Ipswich so he'll be heading there. The girls will be heading for Blackpool where my Dad and step mum live  If they need a window cleaner or some narcotics I know a guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L/H White Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 3 minutes ago, wanderer1984 said: A short tale you may or may not be interested in. Think I've mentioned on here before that my Dad is married to a Ukrainian. They've been married for 12 years now and both spend 6 months of year in Ukraine. They have a flat in central Kiev where her two daughters live (31&33) one works for the government but I'm not sure what role she undertakes. On Monday they went to a village called Vysoke to stay with my dad's wife's sister. Vysoke is approximately 60km west from Kiev. Gunfire could be heard as well as explosions in the distance so they went back to Kiev. Yesterday morning their farther picked them up and headed west to Lviv (550km) from Kiev. Abandoning the car in the city they took a bus to the Polish border. Officials on the Ukrainian side checked paper work and said they could pass through but because their farther is 60 he'd have to stay. I've just had a call off my Dad to say the daughters wouldn't leave him on his own so somehow got someone to smuggle him through in a boot of a car! All in Poland now. Think his sister lives in Ipswich so he'll be heading there. The girls will be heading for Blackpool where my Dad and step mum live. Oh... and they brought the dog too. Chuffed they managed to get out and are now safe.  Glad they're all safe. Unbeknown to me, my mum's next door neighbours are Ukrainian, the bloke has gone back home to fight this week. He's been living in Little Hulton for a couple of years now, so I'm sure he'll be ok. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rudy Posted March 1, 2022 Author Members Share Posted March 1, 2022 Just now, L/H White said: Glad they're all safe. Unbeknown to me, my mum's next door neighbours are Ukrainian, the bloke has gone back home to fight this week. He's been living in Little Hulton for a couple of years now, so I'm sure he'll be ok. 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted March 1, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, wanderer1984 said: A short tale you may or may not be interested in. Think I've mentioned on here before that my Dad is married to a Ukrainian. They've been married for 12 years now and both spend 6 months of year in Ukraine. They have a flat in central Kiev where her two daughters live (31&33) one works for the government but I'm not sure what role she undertakes. On Monday they went to a village called Vysoke to stay with my dad's wife's sister. Vysoke is approximately 60km west from Kiev. Gunfire could be heard as well as explosions in the distance so they went back to Kiev. Yesterday morning their farther picked them up and headed west to Lviv (550km) from Kiev. Abandoning the car in the city they took a bus to the Polish border. Officials on the Ukrainian side checked paper work and said they could pass through but because their farther is 60 he'd have to stay. I've just had a call off my Dad to say the daughters wouldn't leave him on his own so somehow got someone to smuggle him through in a boot of a car! All in Poland now. Think his sister lives in Ipswich so he'll be heading there. The girls will be heading for Blackpool where my Dad and step mum live. Oh... and they brought the dog too. Chuffed they managed to get out and are now safe.  Good story. Truly horrific situation all round. Can fully understand the 18-60 year old bloke situation, but it must make things even more stressful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 2 minutes ago, L/H White said: Glad they're all safe. Unbeknown to me, my mum's next door neighbours are Ukrainian, the bloke has gone back home to fight this week. He's been living in Little Hulton for a couple of years now, so I'm sure he'll be ok. only if it comes to hand to hand combat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 4 minutes ago, Rudy said: If they need a window cleaner or some narcotics I know a guy You know it big lad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wanderer1984 Posted March 1, 2022 Share Posted March 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Good story. Truly horrific situation all round. Can fully understand the 18-60 year old bloke situation, but it must make things even more stressful. Yeah... I think too with his daughters leaving he then has no one. And because he abandoned his car in Lviv he was basically fucked and didn't know what to do. Plus he's 61 in a month's time 😂. Glad he made it through. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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