Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 26, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Winchester White said: Ukraine will be much better supplied and prepared for the winter than the Russians sent there. Any progress either way will be slow but it will be hell on earth for the mobilised conscripts. Of course, I hope they can utilise their better weaponry to flush out/remoge the enemy from a distance, without necessarily having to use stuff that will get bogged down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 26, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: Of course, I hope they can utilise their better weaponry to flush out/remoge the enemy from a distance, without necessarily having to use stuff that will get bogged down. Thwe Russian army is massively biased to artillery. The numbers they have is ludicrous in this day and age. They are finding to their cost that modern armies move much quicker from attack to defence/cover and vice versa than they are trained or equipped to deal with. Add in the failures of their airforce and we are where we are. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 26, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2022 1 minute ago, Winchester White said: Thwe Russian army is massively biased to artillery. The numbers they have is ludicrous in this day and age. They are finding to their cost that modern armies move much quicker from attack to defence/cover and vice versa than they are trained or equipped to deal with. Add in the failures of their airforce and we are where we are. Time for more himars with the M30A1 ammunition. Seen videos of this- 182000 tungsten BBs shredding stuff in its vicinity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Winchester White Posted October 26, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 26, 2022 This guy is ace, and it is clear that modern army tactics are giving Ukraine huge advantages despite overwhelming russian manpower and firepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted October 27, 2022 Share Posted October 27, 2022 On 26/10/2022 at 21:11, Winchester White said: This guy is ace, and it is clear that modern army tactics are giving Ukraine huge advantages despite overwhelming russian manpower and firepower. I’m not an expert but I’m not sure that Russia have superior firepower. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweep Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 11 hours ago, Mounts Kipper said: I’m not an expert but I’m not sure that Russia have superior firepower. I suppose it depends if you count Nucleur warheads as superior or not - if we're discounting nukes, then I agree, the equipment they have looks to be pretty shit, thus far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2022 They do (perhaps did) have a lot of it though. Got to get more anti aircraft/missile protection into Ukraine quickly though- they're utilising the Iranian drones to decent effect at the moment. If we don't then you couldn't blame Ukraine for attacking any launch sites in Russia, which may be a game changer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 32 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: They do (perhaps did) have a lot of it though. Got to get more anti aircraft/missile protection into Ukraine quickly though- they're utilising the Iranian drones to decent effect at the moment. If we don't then you couldn't blame Ukraine for attacking any launch sites in Russia, which may be a game changer. Was suggested that they want Israel to supply them with some as they are leaders in that area Israel doesn't seem keen to get involved though   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted October 28, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted October 28, 2022 Can sort of understand that- connections with Russian Jews perhaps. Isn't Abramovich connected in that way? Perhaps the west needs to connect Ukraine to Europe's energy (electricity) networks to help with their needs. They're going to need power for plant that is used for production of munitions etc as well as domestic use. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted October 28, 2022 Share Posted October 28, 2022 Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Blondi Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 https://twitter.com/visegrad24/status/1587776575487057925?s=20&t=GTqcKDwlXvZCdp-qAMWj-w Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Wanderlust Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 On 28/10/2022 at 16:32, tyldesley_white said: Â There's another reason the Ukranians aren't bombing the shit out of Belgorod and that's because it's full of Ukranians. One of the refugees who came here from Severodonetsk was on the phone to her sister who - along with tens of thousands of Ukranians from the Donetsk region - had been forcibly relocated to Belgorod. She felt they were being used as human shields. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 As much as I hate the thought, I'm struggling to see how the Ukranians will survive the winter. There will inevitably be mass migrations as temperatures in January can fall to minus 30 and without power or water they'll migrate or die. Even if the West actually does eventually provide top quality defence systems it won't be enough as the Russians can just continue to bomb the shit out of Ukraine from a safe distance and the Americans won't let Ukraine counterattack so they're fighting with their hands tied. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Surely the west will provide every bit of warm weather kit known to man? These Russian piss pots are turning up in shorts with a broomhandled mouser. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanderlust Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 23 minutes ago, gonzo said: Surely the west will provide every bit of warm weather kit known to man? These Russian piss pots are turning up in shorts with a broomhandled mouser. For the soldiers, probably. For the remaining 35 million citizens not so much. Humanitarian crisis looming IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Wanderlust said: For the soldiers, probably. For the remaining 35 million citizens not so much. Humanitarian crisis looming IMO. Send them some dinghys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tyldesley_white Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Another smart move by Putin   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Hes ace him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 7, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 7, 2022 39 minutes ago, gonzo said: Hes ace him He is:  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
royal white Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Proper A Team stuff this  https://youtu.be/H-yCmgre-qE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marc505 Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 Considering ending every conversation from now on with: "Anyway, it's just a thought. Ya'll have a good day" 😃 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Traf Posted November 7, 2022 Share Posted November 7, 2022 5 hours ago, Marc505 said: Considering ending every conversation from now on with: "Anyway, it's just a thought. Ya'll have a good day" 😃 Ha, ha, like you don't already Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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