BobyBrno Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 8 minutes ago, Winchester White said: They have a very strange psyche do the Russians. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and think they are above everyone. Yet their country outside of a few major cities is an absolute shithole. Met a few on my travels in the East. Never met one I liked but more relevant, never met anyone in the East who liked them. The Germans easily blamed their past on the Nazis. Russians though are still proud of their Soviet/communist past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 43 minutes ago, Spider said: Must admit that I expected Russia to be better than this. They’re a 60’s army with (alas) a trump card uk their sleeve. Putin is unpredictable, and his next move will have to be a big one or he’s fucked You were way off the ball fella Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 11, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 11, 2022 6 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: You were way off the ball fella About what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 We spent 4 weeks driving around Russia in 2018 and the general Russian people were great with us, granted we went off the beaten track to the smaller towns where they had probably never seen an Englishman, free Vodka was the order of the day wherever we went. We met their Ultra's who told us they would rather fight us than be nice but Vlad had given them their orders and they had to be nice to us. It was a great experience and I would have loved to go back especially to St Petersburg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, Spider said: About what? "My money's on Putin" I think we all were Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 2 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: "My money's on Putin" I think we all were Some of us weren’t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 Just now, athywhite1958 said: We spent 4 weeks driving around Russia in 2018 and the general Russian people were great with us, granted we went off the beaten track to the smaller towns where they had probably never seen an Englishman, free Vodka was the order of the day wherever we went. We met their Ultra's who told us they would rather fight us than be nice but Vlad had given them their orders and they had to be nice to us. It was a great experience and I would have loved to go back especially to St Petersburg I bet the hospitality in those places is second to none - you'll find nice people in every country. Their Ultras are twats. They were picking off pensioners, women and kids when they paraded round the Euros before their World Cup. They weren't interested in actually fighting anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 11, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 11, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, London Wanderer said: "My money's on Putin" I think we all were Ah right. Fair enough, I don’t doubt that his wish is for Mother Russia to reclaim ‘lost’ territories, and that he wants a legacy. What I didn’t realise was just how shit his army is. The only joker in the pack is the nukes. It still wouldn’t surprise me if he lost his head and launched. Edited November 11, 2022 by Spider Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
athywhite1958 Posted November 11, 2022 Share Posted November 11, 2022 1 minute ago, London Wanderer said: I bet the hospitality in those places is second to none - you'll find nice people in every country. Their Ultras are twats. They were picking off pensioners, women and kids when they paraded round the Euros before their World Cup. They weren't interested in actually fighting anyone. Yep, we met them in a bad mood a few years earlier and they stormed our hotel (the Infamous Cosmos) even though it was being guarded by Russian troops, they got us out of the ground and locked the Russians in just to get us away on buses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Zico Posted November 11, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 11, 2022 57 minutes ago, Winchester White said: They have a very strange psyche do the Russians. They have a massive chip on their shoulder and think they are above everyone. Yet their country outside of a few major cities is an absolute shithole. Despite full access to Western news etc that mad Russian I stalked a couple of years ago was still convinced Putin was doing the right thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtySanchez Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 11 hours ago, BobyBrno said: Met a few on my travels in the East. Never met one I liked but more relevant, never met anyone in the East who liked them. The Germans easily blamed their past on the Nazis. Russians though are still proud of their Soviet/communist past. Was in St Petersburg around three years ago Got talking to some younger ones, probably mid 20s, and they seemed decent. Clued up about life outside of Russia, even remembered us playing them in the Europa I guess that these are the ones least likely to fall for it all as they are probably savvy enough to read or find international press and not fall for the state controlled media line. The old bloke who still dreams of the soviet era and its Russia against the rest of the world will swallow it all though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, DirtySanchez said: The old bloke who still dreams of the soviet era and its Russia against the rest of the world will swallow it all though Taking back control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobyBrno Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 Bit grim this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mounts Kipper Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 39 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Bit grim this. Could it just be the GPS is a bit out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2022 50 minutes ago, BobyBrno said: Bit grim this. Instinctively you’d say on a human level that shooting lads on the retreat is a cunts trick. However, you let them go and they rally to come back at you, you’ll wish you’d shot them whilst you had chance. What a fucking waste of life though. For a lunatic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
London Wanderer Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, athywhite1958 said: Yep, we met them in a bad mood a few years earlier and they stormed our hotel (the Infamous Cosmos) even though it was being guarded by Russian troops, they got us out of the ground and locked the Russians in just to get us away on buses Christ, sounds mental. Edited November 12, 2022 by London Wanderer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo Posted November 12, 2022 Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 hour ago, BobyBrno said: Bit grim this. Reckon him in 3rd will make a last minute dash on the outside to claim the win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 12, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2022 52 minutes ago, Spider said: Instinctively you’d say on a human level that shooting lads on the retreat is a cunts trick. However, you let them go and they rally to come back at you, you’ll wish you’d shot them whilst you had chance. What a fucking waste of life though. For a lunatic. Id say retreating troops are fair game, as would Sir Margaret Surrendering troops, out of bounds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2022 9 hours ago, Spider said: Instinctively you’d say on a human level that shooting lads on the retreat is a cunts trick. However, you let them go and they rally to come back at you, you’ll wish you’d shot them whilst you had chance. What a fucking waste of life though. For a lunatic. What if those lads had left your towns full of booby traps; kidnapped, raped and murdered civilians; wrecked infrastructure and stolen anything and everything they could get their hands on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Casino Posted November 12, 2022 Moderators Share Posted November 12, 2022 43 minutes ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: What if those lads had left your towns full of booby traps; kidnapped, raped and murdered civilians; wrecked infrastructure and stolen anything and everything they could get their hands on? See, i dont think that comes into it Whatever they did was under orders - dunno about the raping bit tbf I stand by my earlier post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Casino said: See, i dont think that comes into it Whatever they did was under orders - dunno about the raping bit tbf I stand by my earlier post It does if it's your family members Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Cheese Posted November 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2022 1 minute ago, Casino said: See, i dont think that comes into it Whatever they did was under orders - dunno about the raping bit tbf I stand by my earlier post Russian troops have summarily executed hundreds of Ukrainian civilians, and indiscrimately murdered thousands more. It will catch up with them eventually, whether it was done under orders or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Tonge moor green jacket Posted November 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2022 See, if they were surrendering then yes it would be legally wrong, if morally understandable. But they weren't, it was a withdrawal so fair game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter MickyD Posted November 12, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 12, 2022 2 hours ago, Casino said: See, i dont think that comes into it Whatever they did was under orders - dunno about the raping bit tbf I stand by my earlier post Wasn’t that part of the defence at the Nazi war crimes trials? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Site Supporter Spider Posted November 13, 2022 Site Supporter Share Posted November 13, 2022 11 hours ago, Tonge moor green jacket said: See, if they were surrendering then yes it would be legally wrong, if morally understandable. But they weren't, it was a withdrawal so fair game. I won’t lose any sleep over it. Suppose it’s the old English sense of fair game showing 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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